Which Riddle Riddle?

This is a HeadGum Podcast.

Erin, JPC, I have some important business to discuss.

Okay, amazing. Let me get the paperwork out.

Okay, if it's important business.

Impossible business. Impostor business. Ah, important business. All right, here we go.

I should probably change into my business clothes. I'm sorry, I wasn't dressed for important business.

Um, this could be, sorry, let's have it be casual business.

Oh, okay. Okay, totally different paperwork, kind of different.

Hawaiian shirts and khakis. I will wear my casual suit, aka my birthday suit.

Casualty business, ah, casual business. Alright, ready.

Okay.

What was our imposter news again?

And Erin, how are our casualty numbers?

Our imposter news was there was someone taking over my body for several years, but we worked that out. And then our casualty news, you're going to want to know.

Oh, OK. Great. I mean, when you say you worked it out, you and they, they worked it out. You worked it out together, the two of you.

I don't remember.

Sort of a Venom situation?

Yes. Erin! Clear your throat, man.

We're recording. New character for the show? New character for the show, Erin Venom? Erin, we should get pizza.

All right, let me try. Erin, we should get pizza.

Erin, talk about piss on the podcast.

Erin, talk about piss on the podcast.

What was your news? Erin, Gary Sobis is actually handsome. Make your move.

Casual news. All right. Clicks Pen. What was the news?

I think, and unless, hey, I could be, I'm a forgetful dude. I'm the opposite of whatever an elephant is. Sure. I don't

Hey Riddle

A thousand times. It was Kevin's and Susie's.

That's right.

It was Future Lizard.

It was Ridiot's. Ridiot's. Okay.

Clue Crew. And then I think that they turned 18 and defected from us and named themselves. So now I don't know.

Gotcha. Yeah, what's that called when people leave to become their own parents or whatever?

Rumspringa! Erin, it's Rumspringa!

Amish Venom?

No, we don't have the time. Everybody stop standing up. We don't have the time.

Erin, Erin, please. Erin, I was wrong about buying the Knicks. Can we please write and produce Amish Venom?

Erin, please. Casey, I'm so sorry. I just saw what Amish Venom does to my audio and I am so sorry, my man. I should back off the mic when I do Amish Venom.

All right, Adal, but then we can't buy the Knicks. If we do Amish Venom, Adal, then we can't buy the Knicks.

Erin, did you know that stilts used to be considered a parlor game?

Churn that butter. Erin, if we can churn butter, we can churn Dr. Pepper, Erin!

I haven't been conscious for a full hour. I haven't had my coffee yet.

I walked to a breakfast burrito place that I've never been to before and they gave me a free coffee when I bought my breakfast burrito.

That's very sweet. What a blessed start to your day. Yeah. It was a blessed start to your day.

Blessed little day. And they said, is your car in the shop too? And I said, no. And they're like, oh, most people in here's cars in the shop. I said, oh.

Oh. Okay. Adal, why do you ask? Are you trying to address the Riddle Nation here? Are you doing a big speech?

Not a big speech. I think I just, I think I was thinking of like, oh yeah, did we ever settle on something? Because I feel like, yeah, we've bounced between a few things. I was maybe thinking, Who knows if we call them from now on hot dogs? Oh wow. If that might be fun.

You know what we should do? Jupiter's?

I'm sorry, what was that one? Never mind, what were you saying?

We should do an open submission. We should call for an open submission. And you can submit this name anyway. You can do it in the Discord. You can do it on our Instagram. But give us what name you would like to be called. We'll take like the 10 best options and put up an official poll.

Yeah. Okay.

We'll put up a poll and you know what? We'll make the poll like a Patreon poll. But we'll make it free. We'll make it free for anyone. So you don't have to be a Patreon member. You can be a free member to do it. But you have to vote on Patreon and then whatever name of the 10 that you choose, that's the name we will abide by.

That's the name we'll eliminate first.

And then we'll do a re-vote.

And this will go for one year. 100 years. 100 years. We will vote for 100 years.

Okay, so I typed just to make sure we're not stepping on anyone's toes. I did type in Amish Venom to Google. Okay. And it turns out both rattlesnakes and the Amish can't regulate how much poison they pump into you when they bite you.

Oh! Well they can't regulate that? So they can't even just poison you a little bit?

Erin, my existence means that there is an Amish anti-venom! Fight him, Erin, and kill him!

You're not going to believe this, but I didn't see Venom, so I don't feel as confident doing the voice, but I think I'll throw my hat into the ring. Erin... JPC, I'm this kind of guy. Can you even handle me being in a room? I'm Venom. You simply must see Venom. Tell me how to be better with the voice.

No, that was great. You pretty much did what Tom Hardy did, which is whatever you want, and so good.

I'm a superhero or something, Erin.

You say that you didn't see Venom made me think of how confusing this will be to people who have also never seen Venom. They'll be like, what is this?

Venom was in my periphery. It never crossed my desk, but I think I kind of get the vibe.

You're more of a Morbius girl.

It's Morbin time. Is that something?

I think that was more of the meme. I don't know if you ever said it in the movie.

It was bad, though. And it wasn't the actual company. It's that thing they do with like Madame Webster. Sony. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was a Sony Spider-Man, yep.

Erin, are there any comic book characters, either real or from your imagination, that you would like to see a movie of?

You know, I, during the pandemic, read Mrs... Is it Mrs. Fury? What is the...

Marvelous Mrs. Maisel.

Yeah, I'm just talking about something else. I just watch the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. That's my contribution to this.

Stand-Ups with Power.

Let me make sure I'm getting, yeah. Stand-Ups with Power. Yeah, Miss Fury. I read the complete works, the Miss Fury one, which is like film noir-y. It was so good. And I was like, oh, this would be such a good TV show.

I have to check this out. You turned me on to Black Sad. Is that the cat's name? Black Sand, Black Sad. Who did that? Erin did that? Erin did. It's maybe like a detective cat or something.

Yeah. I didn't watch the whole thing of that. Hold on, wait, hold on. My Dynamite Entertainment. I thought it was...

Well, hey, Dynamite Entertainment, that sounds like a great company. I don't know, I don't know it from Adam, but Dynamite Entertainment.

But I read Miss Fury because it was the first, when it came out, it was the first female cartoonist to draw a Marvel character.

Very cool.

So it feels very feminine. It's also a little bit gay if you're into that kind of thing. Or blind. Or yeah, just if you're into it.

But he's gay, blind. I'm sorry, he's blind. Erin, is Zorp in the comic books at all?

A little bit. He's more into fantasy books. And he's read like all the fairy smut. So anytime we're with a group of gals, he's like, gals, what are we reading? And then he's able to launch into whatever fairy smut book is happening.

I'm unaware of fairy smut. Is this like heated rivalry but for fairies?

Well, Heated Rivalry is romance, but then there's a sub-genre of book called romanticy, and it's romance but set in fantasy universe. So it's very similar to Heated Rivalry. Sometimes it starts as fanfiction, like there's a very popular one that started as fanfiction between Kylo Ren and Rey, but then just got spun off into its own thing where the characters are like stand-ins for Kylo Ren and Rey, but they're not like named that or whatever.

As a Tumblr girl, it has been really blowing my mind what has become of fanfiction. Like, now it is a pipeline, and I think a way that some authors are trying to get discovered is they'll write a really popular fan fiction.

Yes.

It's crazy.

It's an absolute avenue for people. And there is a lot of it. What's the, it's Sarah J. Maas? I see that one all the time. I don't remember what it's called.

Fourth Wing?

4th Wing.

4th Wing is out there. Oh, that sounds like Costco even.

I mean, it's anywhere they sell books, they're going to sell 4th Wing because it's like, it flies off the shelf.

Is there an audience or is there a market for Venom slash Eddie Brock romance? Where it's like, they're fucking?

I'm sure... Let me add it to the list.

I'm sure if we got on... Erin, what are the fanfic sites? I can't remember what they're called. I'm not versed in this world.

Well, let's see.

Why are you winking, GFPC?

Well, so my wife is... She'd kill me if she heard this. I hope she never does.

I know. She's a Tumblr girl as well.

She's a Tumblr girl and she's a fanfic girl. And if I were like, what are the fanfic sites? She'd be like, I've told you a thousand times. And she would know them. But I don't remember what they are. But you can go on the fanfic sites and like search for ships between those.

And I'm sure that there's some Eddie Brock Venom ships that have fully devoted... Let me write... I'm going to write this down so that maybe we can do a table read of... I mean, what pad?

The only fanfic that I've ever read, and I read a lot of it, was the, and I think when we were on the Joko ship, they were doing, and maybe they do it every year, a staged reading of it. Yeah, it's called My Immortal, and it's like a Harry Potter, Draco Malfoy ship fanfic, but it's like written by like a 10 year old, and it's, I was reading it and laughing and Mariah was like, this is an actual fanfic. You have a bad impression of it now. And I'm like, yes, I do. I absolutely do have a bad impression of it. But I will say, I would announce here that as of this recording, which we're recording a little bit in advance to cover Adal's absence, but as of this recording, I'm 18 Jack Reacher's books on the year. I think there's only like 30-something of them. So I think I'm going to get all the Jack Reacher books done this year. And when I finish all of the Jack Reacher books, I am going to write a Jack Reacher fanfic. Yes! I've decided to do it. I've already got like notes full of ideas. Sometimes I have to cross them off because I'll read a book and I'm like, wow, he did my idea. He is writing out of ideas because he did something that I was like, this could be something Jack Reacher could do.

Now this morning you sent the most insane passage from a Jack Reacher book, which is that In the book it claimed that he was the opposite of a hemophiliac, that his blood, that any wounds or cuts heal so quickly as to be abnormally advanced.

As these books go on, Jack Reacher is ostensibly getting older. So he's going to be like in his 40s soon. And it's like, they just have to keep giving him superpowers to explain why this like 50-year-old man is still like busting skulls out there, which I think is awesome. Yeah, that book also had a gem where they were like, Jack Reacher has never had Tylenol. He's never taken acetaminophen. I'm like, huh.

Yeah, that made me die laughing. I've never taken an aspirin. Doesn't she? I'm Elizabeth Bennet Erin. I've got a lot of sisters.

Pride and Venom? Venom and Prejudice?

JPC, that is genuinely so exciting. I love, I mean, I'm a huge fan of your, the, what do you call, I'm so sorry, my brain's moving so slowly.

Guided meditation.

The guided meditation. And any time you solo write something, it is so unhinged and so funny. And I am deeply looking forward to reading this whenever it comes out.

That is a good point, Erin, because I did not even think about it. But I think what I should do, and by the way, I'm not going to write a novel, I'm going to write a Jack Reacher short story. But I do think that what I should do eventually, after I write it, is I should record an audiobook of it. It would be very funny if I could get the guy who recorded the Jack Reacher audiobooks to do it, but that man passed away in 2022, which I learned. So I will not be getting that man.

But I'll have- But we can try.

I'll send an email that will be answered in a very curt manner, but I will probably do an audiobook recording of it as well when I'm finally done with this period of my life.

All right, good news everybody. Something to stay alive for.

Good news! Hang in there, Kitty. The worst thing you've ever read is only eight months away.

Good news for me and other people in the trying to find a reason to have any hope in our heart community. Good news.

I was reading a little bit this morning, and I was trying to find a passage that I had read, because it was... I was going to read it to you guys, because it was one of the worst pieces of writing that I've... I think I've ever read in my entire life, but I can't seem to find it. So, unfortunately, we will just have to do riddles for a while.

No.

Yeah, I know.

I know. All right, let's do some riddles.

Well, let's head out.

But in the voice of Venom. My head and my tail are both equal, and my middle is as slender as can be. Whether I stand on my head or my heel is quite the same to you or me. What am I?

Could you read it again? I'm so sorry.

My head and my tail are both equal, and my middle is as slender as can be. Whether I stand on my head or heel is quite the same to you or me.

The number eight.

Erin, it is the number or figure eight.

Whoa.

I'd like to see a scene. Okay. You guys are two numbers, and I'm going to be a number eight that walks into a bar, and you're like, whoa, that is, let's look at the shape of that number.

Yeah. Seven, it's six. Right?

Like the... Hell yeah, man. Right? Yeah.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah, bro.

What are you drinking, man?

Hell yeah. Uh, let's see. What is this? This is an IPA. What? It's an IPA. Dude.

Dude, don't. Hey, hey. Come on, man. What? Don't be talking about fucking letters. It's a numbers bar. Oh, right. I'm drinking a 12-ounce. Uh, he'll have a 3-1-2. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Thanks.

Good looking out. Yeah, good looking out, man. Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hey, hey, hey. Um, six. Don't look now, but yo, you see this? You see what I'm seeing? It's an upright pair of boobs.

Hi, I'm eating someone here.

Today we're I'm seven. I'm six. This is six.

We went to number school together.

Yes. Yeah. You were a year ahead of me and a year ahead of seven. Oh my God. Oh my God. Wow. You grew up.

What was that?

Uh, Mama? Nothing Mama, sorry Mama.

Um, well I'm actually here on a first date with Nine. I'm gonna see him.

Okay, no, that's fine. Six, six, six, six. Yeah, yeah. You have a shot. You have a shot, man. Really?

Oh, hold on. I'm gonna go to the bathroom. Does a quick headstand. Thank you. Oh, go for it. Hey, baby. Hey, Baba.

Sorry, I didn't see you come in. When did you get here?

Uh, nine seconds ago?

Um, well, I think that we have a table. Did you want to grab a drink at the bar first?

Uh, yeah, give me... Oh, seven, nine just walked in. Distract him, distract him. No worries, no worries.

I will take a French 75.

This guy's a six! This guy's a six pretending to be someone he's not!

The guy who just walked in is a six? Yeah! Wow, that's really messed up. Wait, six was just here a second ago, a seven. He left and came back? And pretended to be a nine. Wow. Snap!

Oh my god, that guy just snapped his own neck! He was caught in an embarrassing situation and he snapped his own neck?

Wait, which one? The one that just walked in or the one I'm having a drink with at a bar?

Snap!

Oh boy, the bartender who cowled out that the first guy snapped his own neck snapped his neck too!

Everybody stop! Stop! Stop snapping your own neck!

That's gonna be like a numbers knives out situation.

I have to be honest. I'm not who I say I am. I'm actually- Falls over. Infinity. But no one wants to- Oh my god, stop feeling uncomfortable. No one wants to go on a date with a woman that's infinity. I'm too intimidating.

Hey baby, why don't you ditch all the sixes and sevens and nines- Get out of here Zero! Okay, the line works usually. See?

Wow, the number cinematic universe. Should we do letters now boys?

What if, what if Zero had a venom? Uh, I found that, look guys, can I beg your indulgence for just a second while I read you maybe one of the worst passages, worst pieces of writing that I've ever, like, nothing, this whole passage is just, I need to hit a word count. I'm hitting a word count. Um, MacMahony's man climbed out of the Cadillac and stood for a second in the nighttime cold. He looked all around. East, west, north, south. And he saw nothing stirring. He closed his door to kill the interior light. He took a step toward the trunk. He had been right. There was a light in the trunk. It was throwing a pale sphere of yellow glow into the mist. Not serious from the front, but a problem from behind. The human eye was very sensitive. He took another step. Passed the rear passenger door and he raised his left hand. He got as far as putting his palm on the panel Subconsciously, he leaned into the motion, not really intending to slam the lid, not at all bad-tempered, just seeking a little physical leverage. And his change of position hunched his shoulders a little, which brought his head forward a little, which changed his eyeline a little, which meant he had to look somewhere. And given the choice of the lit interior of a previously closed space or a featureless length of dark blacktop, well, any human eye would opt for the former over the latter. That is describing closing a trunk.

What the actual fuck?

I think most authors would say he got up to close the trunk and then he saw something in the trunk, right? I mean, there's just no fucking reason to make me read all of that.

North, east, south, west. One, two, three, four. That's some Charles Dickens type word count. Getting paid a penny for every word over the fuck.

He looked north, east, south, west. Realized that wasn't a thorough enough job. He went southwest, then northeast, then southeast, then northwest.

He moved his fingers, which moved his hands, and his hands moved his arms, and his arms moved his shoulder. Wait, Erin.

Erin, you're telling me the guy who started a novel with, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times, was getting paid by the letter?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That's why Oliver Twist is like, he asked for food, he asked for food again, he wanted more food.

It was as hot as it gets and as cold as it ever was. Dickens, you gotta choose a path, buddy. Oh boy, I love it, I love it.

I would like to see a scene.

Well, hold on.

Adal, you are Charles Dickens, and you are in a fight with your partner, JPC, and you're used to using a lot of words to get out of a situation, so you're kind of like word salading your way out of a relationship conflict.

It's just, I've asked you a million times. If you're going to cook for yourself, you have to clean your own dishes. If you're cooking for everyone, I'm happy to clean, you know, my share, but it's just, these are all your dishes, Charles.

Zounds, woman. Beseech and bequeath, and bequeath, for you knowest not what you canoodle. You doof? You... You kumquat? You tabernacle? Oh my god, are you drunk? Am I? Are you drunk again? Zounds, woman. You're saying I am to be three sheets unto in the wind? A zephyr that a zephyr doth hither and hither flight with the I'm packing a bag.

I'm going to my mother's. I'm going to my mother's. I can't. I can't with you.

You do load up your satchel with the ornamental filigree and potential items of depth and width and length into your hitherto for I should your mother so hot.

Charles, are you here to see my daughter? I heard you guys got into a fight.

Zounds, woman, for you know not what you do. Perchance purloin your pantaloons, please.

Get in here, you old so-and-so.

Yes, mama. It was the best of times. It was the fuck of times. I've been feeling kind of dickened.

The Marlies were dead to begin with.

Um, I can't think of, I can't hear Marley and not think of the Muppet, the, it's Marley, Marley. Truly the best.

I thought Jacob Marley was two people because of that movie. And then you go to high school and you read Christmas Carol and it's just one guy. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. Un-fucking-believable. And I don't know what we're talking about, but I'm pissed off about it too. Just like you guys.

Thank you. This is the kind of support that I need.

What is plowed but never planted? Amish Venom? Erin!

I've never pledged it, Erin! Knee high by the 4th of July, Erin!

Yeah, is it Amish Venom?

No, but I do want to see a scene. I think just to put wood on the fire of this idea that I'm very much tickled by. Okay. Erin, you are back from Rumspringa. You are Amish Venom. JPC is your inner Amish Venom voice. And I can play whatever Amish folks we need.

So Erin is an Amish person back from Rumspringa and I am her Amish voice. So I have a normal voice.

Yes, yes, yes. You're the Erin Brock.

Got it.

Yeah, and so I assume I have a normal voice with context. Yeah. And he has the crazy voice.

Fantastic. Yeah. Thank you. Just like the movie Venom, Erin, that you've never seen. You are just normal Tom Hardy.

I got it. Just like the movie I've never seen. And I, one, two, three, I got it. Hello. I know you're probably surprised to see me back, but I've returned.

Oh, how did you find it?

Uh, to be honest, it was exciting. I had a really nice time, but I'm... I was really drawn back home. I was quite homesick while I was gone, so... I see you have a bag from Spencer's Gifts? Yeah, I decided to bring back a couple things. Um... Yeah, a lot of it's just like gag gifts. I now kind of feel stupid now that I'm walking in here and kind of remember the vibe of this place.

I feel like I... Tina's pasta. I'm sure your mother will be thrilled. Ask him if she can cook it immediately!

I'm quite hungry for penis pasta. Could she cook it immediately?

Oh, I don't know about immediately. It'll take a while for the water to boil over fire, but we can start it soon.

Ooh, fire! Yes, touch the fire, Erin!

Here I go. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Please, no! I just was wondering if it was still hot.

Yes, of course fire's still hot. What's got into you? Can we eat this man's beard, Erin?

Give me one second. Give me one second. Venom. What the fuck are you doing? Read the room. I... what? Read the room.

Read the room? There are letters in the room, Erin?

No, that's a turn of phrase, Venom. Don't... this learned helplessness thing you're doing. Don't pretend you don't know.

I am learning, Erin.

No, no, you're not. Venom.

Let's raise a barn. No.

Venom. Hey. Huh?

Oh?

This is a boundary. I'm setting a boundary.

Is the penis pasta ready, Erin?

Looks like the water's still boiling. I like- Venom?

It's like eating a bunch of penises!

Venom, you leave my mom alone, okay? When she comes in here. Oh, uh, are you hungry? Uh, yes, I would love some of this pasta. I've re- Ooh, mama! Oh no.

7-8-9, Erin, if you know what I mean.

Amish Venom, please don't make my mom fall in love with you.

Please. Looks like my barn's raising Erin.

What is this movie about? Goes to the library, sits down. Googles Venom. What is Venom about?

You should see Venom. It's about an alien symbiote that takes over a reporter and his, it kind of wrecks his life.

And Erin, don't get us started on Carnage.

Let there be carnage. Erin, do you know who plays Carnage? No.

His dad was a professional assassin.

That's true. The actor's dad was a professional assassin. He was also in Cheers. Gotta start in Cheers. An actor from Cheers, Erin.

Ted Danson. Woody Harrelson. Yeah. I didn't know that. Huh. Let's go on a break. Or are we doing a riddle?

Amish Venom, will you take us to break?

I'd love to take you to break. Let's break out the butter churn. The guy who knows three things about being Amish.

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Okay, Adal, Erin, I've seen the movie, I've read the book, I'm all about Project Hail Mary nowadays, and I don't want to brag, but I have actually built something that is pretty cool and kind of relates to a sponsor of the show, if you know where I'm going. Oh, who's our little rock friend here? So, this is Adal, this is Rockette, Rockette Money, this is Rockette Money.

Oh, like the app that I love.

Oh man.

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Yeah, I had a subscription, speak of the devil, I had a subscription to the Rockettes at Radio City Music Hall. And I was losing money hand over legs. And thank God Rocket Money caught it.

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It's real.

I love you, daddy.

Oh, GPC.

Guys, I was doing that. I was doing that with my mouth. I'm holding it. Oh, yeah, there's a hand on the rock.

Well. Well. Well.

Hey Riddle Riddle.

Oh, speaking of, can I say one thing about, I know three things about being Amish. One thing that I definitely know about being Amish is the cheese that the Amish make is the best cheese that I've ever had in my entire life.

What kind of cheese are we talking?

I mean, I think it's just like cheese, like it's just they're just like making cheese. But they used to sell when I lived in Indianapolis, there were Amish people that lived like north of Noblesville, I guess, but they would bring their horses and buggies and whatnot and sell their cheese to like markets. And then you could like pick up some Amish cheese at the markets. Oh, my God, that stuff was so good. I'm not the type of person that I love cheese. I'm not the type of person that will just eat cheese. I like cheese on things. I like cheese in things. But, like, I remember being a kid and just, like, taking a little butter knife and just, like, slicing off Amish cheese. Just, like, eating, just eating a block of Amish cheese.

Amish cheese is a high-quality small-batch dairy product known for its creamy texture and rich flavor. Okay.

Yeah, I don't know if it's like a certain type, but it's definitely like a white cheese. I'm sure it is a certain type, but the ones that I used to get was always like a white cheese, very buttery. Oh, so good.

Dang, cheese and furniture.

And not in that order.

Well, now I want cheese. So what are we going to do about that as a collective? Can you eat cheese?

I think, yeah, I think Erin can eat cheese. I'll allow Erin to eat cheese. I can eat cheese if I take a pill that lets my body process the cheese.

Well, we still have a riddle to be solved. What is plowed but never planted?

Oh, we were in the middle of a riddle.

I had an answer for this that I thought of while we were doing it. Is it like a trench? You know, like in World War I when we dug a trench against the Kaiser and his dastardly forces?

No.

But that makes sense though, right?

Well, we plowed some trenches, but then we planted soldiers.

Yeah. And their blood was the water. And the things they carried. And what it sprouted was democracy across the globe, and America fixed every problem.

When your poetry teacher teaches history.

Okay, so it's plowed but never planted. Is this like a woman on birth control?

Hey.

Huh?

Hey.

Huh? Hey.

Ding ding ding ding ding ding. Is it? You won the podcast. You won the podcast.

That can't be the answer. Plowed but never planted.

Plowed but never planted. Hmm.

Okay. I've done both of them. I've done my real answer and my joke answer, so I'm not really sure what else I should be doing.

Is it like something that is earthy and of the earth?

To some degree, it ends up on the earth. Is it like a snow plow? Because they don't plant that shit.

What is plowed but never planted? Snow. Oh, nice. OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It seems like snow is a distant memory, but it was just a few short weeks ago.

Have you guys done a deep dive on the Karen Reid trial yet? What's going on You know what, there'll be a great documentary that comes out about it later. We'll all watch it and we'll all talk about it. But I just, I was going to ask you guys a question if you had gotten into it, but you haven't, which is fine. It's my issue. It's my burden to bear. I'm talking too much. I'm going to head out. Ask the question.

I want to know the question.

Yeah. What is the question? Was it about Snow Plus? Because I know that Snow featured a big part in that trial, right?

Yeah. They I think originally the people that were responsible for it were gonna blame the snowplow driver for killing her And when he the snowplow driver went by twice He did not see the body on the side of the road and then all of a sudden it was there at 6 in the morning I have an actual problem. I'm addicted and I should be banned from talking about it.

Erin, you're like someone in mid-January who's like, how about them Yankees? Someone's like, hey man, you gotta wait. You just gotta wait until the season starts.

I'm like, but how about them Yankees?

But how about them?

How about them Yankees?

I guess they're just resting at home right now.

Are they resting at home right now? But they're coming back, right?

With the bats at the ball.

The boys are just resting, but they're coming back.

Erin, her name is Karen Reed?

Yes.

Okay. I would like to see a scene. JPC and I are a casting agency, and Erin, you have come in to audition for the role of Karen Reed in the Karen Reed movie being made about her trial.

Great.

Hi, come on in.

Hi.

Okay, and do you have a headshot and a resume?

I'm

And just so I'm clear, you are free to use your real accent. You don't have to be professional in this casting room.

Okay, great. Okay, here we go. Fall River accent. Fall River accent. Fall River accent. I'm ready.

Okay. Just so you know, we basically have already cast Mini Driver, but we legally have to do this. And go.

Slowly walks out of room, goes to my car, starts the car, drives silently over to Minnie Driver's house.

Two casting agents following in their car, assuming this is part of the audition. Looks behind me, looks behind me, am I being followed? This is so unique. We should get Chick-fil-A.

Shows up, knocks on the door. She's not home, starts to set little fires around her house.

I was like, oh man, I hope I don't have to be Minnie Driver. I'm like, she's British.

But it's like, oh boy, what can I?

Guys, I don't know what this is. And I saw a video for it because you said Minnie Driver. Did you guys know that Minnie Driver is in a, I think it's like a, I don't know if it's a movie or like a TV miniseries on Fox called The Faithful Colon Women of the Bible. Hmm.

What? This is on Fox, you said?

I guess. It's a, I mean, yes, it came out, I think in like late March, but it's a three-part event series retelling stories from the book of Genesis through the perspective of female figures. I saw that Minnie Driver was in it and I was like, oh no, is Minnie Driver doing okay?

Who does she play, does it say?

Well, it's Genesis, so let's go over all the people that I have no idea. It says that she is playing, recounts the tale of Sarah, Sarah with an I. Wait, where's the I go? Sarah, it's like S-A-R-R-A-I. I went to Catholic school with a girl whose name was Sarah and she spelled it with an I at the end of it. Sarah with an I. Hey man, I don't know. It's not my bag, man. It's not my bag. But someone check on Mini Driver because that does not seem too good.

What is this show? I'm looking at it and I'm like, what the?

I don't know. Can I be honest with you guys? The only reason that I know about it is because I clicked on a TMZ link to see a Jack Reacher, the guy who plays Jack Reacher's body cam, and I was given an ad for that before I watched it. And I was like, I almost was not worth watching whatever the TMZ thing was, just because I was like, what am I doing here? I'm getting the wrong shit advertised to me.

There is something to, I mean, if you think about someone like Minnie Driver, and I'm sure this is the case with Hey everyone. It's not a lot of money that stretches.

And it's always like one episode of Bones, one episode of CSI Miami, and you're just going down the list and then all of a sudden you hit the jackpot when you see 244 episodes of a USA show that you've never heard of before. You're like, yay! They're fine! Oh God, they're fine. Oh my God. I didn't know how they could build a career, but they're fine. They did 244 episodes.

Oh, they have a wife and a house.

Oh, bless. Oh, happy day. Oh, they were on Royal Pains. Thank God they did Royal Pains.

Royal Pains is the funniest one.

There's a woman who was in... Some Bret Easton Ellis adaptation, I forget which one, maybe with Paul Rudd, but she was in that. And then she was one of the leads in a knight's tale. She was like maybe the princess or whatever.

Oh yes, yes.

And then I don't think I ever saw her again in my natural life.

Well, yeah, I think she was in a Josh Hartnett movie as well. I'm struggling to recall what that person's name is or was. Beautiful. And also, you know, sometimes it's possible that someone acted for a while then was like, I don't want to act anymore. And I'm like, that's great too. Yeah, totally fair.

Probably not what happens most of the time but... Lilo Stichbowski, I believe is who you're talking about. It's the Big Lebowski with Lilo and Stitch. Shut the fuck up, Stitch. Big line.

Yeah, shut the fuck up Stitch. I love Lilo Stichbowski.

When Lilo and Stitch fight those Nihilists in the parking lot.

I'm trying to think of another line from it.

Where your friend Amy Mann was standing right next to them.

Yes, yes, yes, yes. Toe cut off and everything?

Toe cut off and everything. While Erin tries to track down whatever happened to Lilo Stichbowski, Adal, do we have another riddle that we can read?

I can make oil boil. So what? B. Trying to be impressive? I thought it was a pretty good one. I can make oil boil. What am I? That's the letter B. I do want to see a scene.

What am I, a guy with a ruined stove?

I'd like to see a scene. The two of you are like medieval torturists, like you are people who torture people. Okay.

Great.

We'll say that JBC, you are sort of the lead torturer, and Erin, you are new to the job. This is your first day, and you're a little grossed out by some of the stuff that you're being asked to do.

Excited to get started. Yeah, me too. I mean, hey, I just gotta say, I read your paper, your dissertation about toenails, and I loved it. It's a little theoretical, but I mean, some of the stuff in there was, you know, pretty wild stuff.

To be quite honest, I've never gotten my hands dirty with torture, but I studied it, I did eight years schooling, and I think I'm ready to go.

Well, you know, there's nothing like on-the-job experience, so this is the first guy. Oh, how do you do, hello. Picks up a clipboard on the edge of his bed. Okay, so it says here this guy did nothing, which is fine.

Is that pretty par for the course?

Pretty par for the course. King probably just upset about something or the other. But we don't need information out of this guy, so it's perfect. We're just going to torture him. It's just straight torture, no objective, just like, it's free play. We're in a sandbox right now, like anything goes.

Wonderful, wonderful. So I'll begin. All right, one, two. Oh, that's so gross.

Oh, interesting method. So you started by throwing up on him. Now that's okay.

So it's more like a psychological... because that can't hurt, obviously, but... Right, no, I just thought about causing pain, and then I also thought about how gross it is to rip someone's toenails off. Yeah.

Okay, oh, interesting. So that was more of a physical reaction. I thought you were actually going for something with that. He's horrible. Okay, I'll kill this guy.

No, no, I got it, I got it. I'm trying, I'm trying.

No, no, it's okay.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

He's dead. You don't have to worry about it. You don't have to worry about it. Don't, yeah. Did you have a big breakfast before this? That's... You definitely, it looks like you had like a bunch of sausage.

Is there like torture research where I can maybe work in a lab or something and not have it to be...

This is the lab. That's the best part about our job. It's like the practical and the theoretical kind of blending in one thing.

My parents are going to kill me. I don't want to use my degree. They just spend so much money.

Thank you for coming to me, the local therapist, if you just lay down on this bale of hay here. I'm going to say some words and I want you to tell me the first word that comes to your fink. To your fink, you know, your fink thing, what's it called?

Um, the... The worms in your head? Yep.

Okay, first word. Blood. Okay, let's spell that H-U-A-H-H. Alright. Knife. Same as before, but maybe a few more H's. How about stab? Mr. Smith eats two eggs every day.

He never buys any eggs.

Nobody gives them to him.

He doesn't steal them from anyone and he doesn't have chickens. Where does he get his eggs from?

His uterus.

Wow. Take that, gender. Mr. Smith eats two eggs every day. He never buys any eggs. Nobody gives them to him. He doesn't steal them from anyone and he doesn't have chickens. Where does he get his eggs from?

He works at the chocolate egg factory.

Huh?

Erin Susanix? He works at the chocolate- Dead stop.

Erin, you dumb.

No, and that wasn't Erin. That was me. I said that. I am Spartacus. Wait, you're Spartacus or you're Erin?

Tell him you're Erin, stupid! Hold on. Let me think.

Okay, it says he eats two eggs.

Easter Bunny.

Thank you. Easter Bunny. Okay, not terrible. Does he eat like something else that have eggs in it?

Yeah.

Not necessarily like an animal, but does he have a cake or something like that that's made with eggs or bread or something like that?

No, it's two eggs. It's just two eggs. Let's just say for simplicity's sake, it's an omelet. He has a two-egg omelet every day.

Oh, is he me who is stuck in this infinite diner loop where he keeps going to diners every day and ordering an omelette? I fucking love a diner.

We went to that Cozy Corner. Oh yeah. Those cheesy grits. Un-fucking-believable. Love those cheesy grits. Just so tasty.

So fucking good. I love a diner. I'm going to take off.

Go to that new place that Gemma and I told you about. It's like North 40.

I keep going back to the diner that I like. I've tried new diners every once in a while, but every time I do, I'm like, I like another place better. I feel like Mary's is top of our list. What are we talking about?

I'm confounded by this. Can we get a hint?

Does he just go to a restaurant and order an omelet every day?

No one gives it to him.

Yeah, he's two eggs every day. He never buys eggs. Nobody gives him eggs. He doesn't steal them from anyone.

Is he like an animal that eats it out of the trash?

Or like a cook, like he eats the leftover eggs because they don't pay him enough and America's in shambles.

Because he's an animal. Erin, what kind of animal would you name Mr. Smith? That's a good name for something.

A really small fish, like a scared looking fish. A man. A man is an animal.

A man is an animal. Man is an animal. They often act like that.

A giraffe is funny.

Mr. Smith. Yeah, give him a little tiny hat.

Mr. Smith. Mr. Smith.

Me? Your hint is that... Do you think giraffes like to be hugged? No. Oh, Erin. I think so.

Better question. Do you think they like to be licked? Because they like to lick. Probably not. Okay.

Probably not by humans, I guess.

What if a human had a big giraffe tongue? Like a prosthetic.

Then I think they would try anything once.

Giraffes, famously. Elephants never forget, and giraffes will try anything once. Yeah. Your hint is that keep thinking along the lines of animals. Not Mr. Smith being an animal, although he is a man.

It's not chicken eggs.

Ding, ding. So it's not chicken, it's... Fish eggs.

Caviar. Caviar. I mean... He takes a bump of caviar every day.

Snort caviar?

Oh, Erin, that's good caviar!

Wall Street Venom. We'll take fish eggs.

That makes the most sense of anything we've created so far.

Yeah. So wait, it is fish eggs? Well, the answer here is he has ducks, but I think fish is just as good.

Oh, so just a different type of egg. I see.

Just a different type of egg. I also would have taken duck-billed platypus.

Wait, the answer is that he makes a duck egg omelet and that's the answer?

Yeah. So he never buys eggs. Nobody gives them to him. He doesn't steal them. Oh, he doesn't own chickens. And then they say he doesn't have chickens.

So we're meant to believe like, you know, but it's just simply... Do people have ducks so they can collect duck eggs? Because duck eggs are small, right? That's... Duck eggs I think are larger, right?

Yeah, I didn't know ducks could be had.

Ducks are big, right? I have a neighbor that has ducks, Erin.

Oh, that's cool. Do they name them and everything?

Yeah, they have pet ducks, but one of them got gotten by the raccoons.

The raccoons ate a duck? The raccoons ate a duck?

What are you talking about?

You cannot put that at an animal parade to soften the blow. Raccoons eat ducks?

Hey, look, all I know is that the raccoon got the duck. What does that mean? I don't know if it was eaten, but the duck is no more because the raccoon- The boy got the girl.

The raccoon got the duck.

They're dating.

What? I googled it. They're opportunistic omnivores.

Yeah. That makes sense though, because they're always, yeah.

We have an abandoned house in my neighborhood, which is owned by some people in Florida and there's broken-in windows and the raccoons just... There's basically a raccoon hideout in my neighborhood that is just an empty house that is only for raccoons. It's yeah, it's an absolute disaster, but what can you do?

What can you do? I think that over the next couple years the raccoons, like you're gonna see them pull up in a car, you're gonna see them walk one of their kids to the bus, like they're gonna slowly integrate into the neighborhood.

I don't wanna be a dick, but my kid is going to school with a raccoon. And I guess we should all... We all pay property taxes. We should all be able to access the schools, but it just seems... I'd like to see a scene.

They do a polite nod.

I'd like to see a scene. The two of you are raccoons in a stash house.

Do you think that we should, um... Like, I don't know, like, hand out candy on Halloween? I have a headache today. Come on.

Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. I wasn't going to ask you to...

I just had a long day, you know.

Are you not attracted to me anymore?

Um, no, no, you're like, as far as raccoons go, you're... As far as raccoons go?

Is there someone else?

Look, I mean, you wanted to live here, okay? It's not a raccoon neighborhood, okay?

There's someone else? Oh, there's someone else that's not a raccoon.

It's not a raccoon.

It's not another raccoon.

Is that what you want to hear, Tiffany? It's not another raccoon.

Okay, wow. Uh, I was gonna say, should we hand out candy at Halloween this year?

It's just you work all day, and I'm here, you know, taking care of things.

Yeah, I collect eggs, duck- I kill ducks for us to- doesn't even matter.

And Miss Milton, she's across the street. You know? And it's like, what am I gonna do? Not say hi in the morning when I see her?

Sure. Okay. Wow.

And she's got a- and she has a leaky pipe. And she can't get under there, but I can. So it's like, what am I gonna do? I'm a neighbor. I'm not gonna help her out?

Right. And so, um, she has a husband that she's presumably cheating. That's fine. This is fine.

What's good? Okay, I'm translating because obviously we integrated and we learned English because of- But you wanted this. I wanted to live in a fucking tree.

I wanted to be a career woman and here I am supporting a loser. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going back. I'm going back to downtown Chicago. I'm gonna go live in the loop.

You're telling me. When you were on that business trip to Milwaukee with your boss Dan, nothing happened?

Dan's nice. Dan's funny. He makes me laugh.

Dan's got raccoon hands. I've seen him. He's got tiny little raccoon hands and I know exactly... Because he's a raccoon. Oh, you wish. You wish.

You wish. Casey, can we please hear a voicemail?

Hello 805 Riddle 1. Your time is up and the riddles are done. You know what that means. Yes, it means I'm free. I'm dying. No. Follow to the letter your itinerary. You answer questions from your listeners about the show or about anything. Like what would you eat with a loaf of bread? Yes, 805-743-3531. My name is John Patrick Coan. And I'm Adal.

Oh my God.

Incredible. Getting the phone number. I want a full musical. I want a full musical.

That was Tom Lum. Tom, you have, I think Tom has submitted before, but that is their take on Russell Crowe and Les Mis. So good. So thank you so much for sending that in. You know, if you want to send one in, hrpodcast at gmail.com. Keep it 30 seconds or less.

Hi Clue Crew. I've been listening to your shows since my undergrad years. I've now worked for a few years and I'm halfway through my master's degree in counseling. I'm also eight months pregnant and since I work from home and do school from home, I realized that my baby probably knows all three of your voices because I listen to your podcast out loud. So that's a mistake on my part, but I was wondering, do you guys have any first time parenting advice? Thanks guys.

Baby, if you can hear us, baby.

Should we all sing, we'll do this thing in three men and a little baby. Good night, sweetheart.

Yeah.

Will they sing the baby this way? Good night, sweetheart, now it's time to go.

Good night, sweetheart, now it's time to go. Wait, baby driver's outside.

I always get three men and a baby confused with Look Who's Talking.

Three men and a baby is better.

Yes, three men and a baby I do believe is better. But Look Who's Talking 2 has a talking toilet.

Never mind.

Okay, so this is parenting advice for a first-time parent. Um, ah man, I don't know. There's just, it's a wild ride. You just gotta, you gotta have to hold on. Um, I would say, uh, there, don't do what you remember your parents doing. It's pretty good odds that your parents were just winging it as well. I would do just some research. What I did that I was very grateful for is I read a bunch of parenting books in that like, you know, year while we were, when I was pregnant, we were welcoming or getting ready. But it's something you can absolutely do as a parent as well. But I would say like, yeah, engage yourself with a bunch of different perspectives. See what like, you know, the new research in the field is saying. Like I remember as a kid, I did timeout, now they're saying like timeout not necessarily a good strategy for kids. So it's like, you familiarize yourself with what like current research says. And if you feel yourself just like replicating a pattern from your past behavior, maybe examine that a little bit and be like, huh, I wonder if, is this thing that I'm doing something that I remember my parents doing? Or is it something that is like, recommended by, you know, people who have done research in this field type of thing?

That's great. That makes sense. I would say stockpile a month worth of your work leading up to it.

Yes. Yes.

As I am wanting to do.

As we are all benefiting from right now, currently.

Thank you so much for the voicemail and best of luck to you. And congratulations.

And let us know how that baby turns out sort of like personality wise and how much damage we did as a three to their nervous system.

Set a reminder on your phone, reach back out in about 18 years and just kind of let us know how it all worked out. We would love to know. We would love to know how it all worked out.

Yes, please.

I wonder if the baby's going to have a venom.

Oh, maybe.

Well, at this point. Probably. We may all have venoms.

Erin, anything to plug or promote?

Check out Gum Shoes and Dragons. We're having a lot of fun over there. And that's where you'll find me if you need anything. Adal, anything to plug?

Check out Hello from the Magic Tavern, which is wrapping up or has just wrapped up the current season. And check out the Word Association podcast. JPC, anything to plug or promote?

No, I think that's that's it for me. I mean, definitely check out Gumshoes and Dragons. If you if you have been on the fence about like starting it, there's like 20 episodes now. So you can like binge a ton of those episodes. And they're all very fun. They're all very different. And there is like a little bit of a narrative in there. So just enough that if you care about narrative, you can listen to that. And so little that if you don't care about narrative, you don't have to worry about that. But yeah, you can find that anywhere that you find podcasts. It's a very fun, show. Hey Erin, speaking of fun shows, you're going to go to a little bit of a show later today, right? I believe it's like a, I don't know, you described it as some sort of eating show?

Hot dogs. Hot dogs. Oh no.

Starring Erin Keif and John Patrick Coan. Casey Toney did the editing. Marnie Perrin did the music.

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Sterling K. Brown. And I'm Chris Sullivan, and we host the podcast That Was Us, now on HeadGum.

Each episode, we're going to go into a deep dive from our show, This Is Us.

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We're going to go episode by episode. We're also going to pepper in episodes with different guest stars and writers and casting directors.

Are we going to cry? Yes. A little bit. Often. A lot. A whole lot. That's what I'm hoping, man. Listen to That Was Us on your favorite podcast app or watch full video episodes on YouTube or Spotify. New episodes every Tuesday.