Which Riddle Riddle?

#364: What a Wonderful Phrase

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Erin

This is a HeadGum Podcast.

JPC

Hey everybody and welcome to Hey Riddle Riddle. Erin, on your phone.

Erin

I was putting it on airplane mode.

JPC

Oh, on your phone to put it on airplane mode.

Adal

If you don't put it away, I'm going to put it on airplane mode. Throws it across the room.

Erin

I can touch Adal's arm right now. I can kick GBC in the shins.

JPC

Those are not my shins. It's a very special episode of Hey Riddle Riddle. And of course, you know, it's the podcast about riddles. There's also some improv. But it's live and in person in, let's see, let's timestamp this a bit. Erin, you're in town, you're in Chicago. Yes. We are currently not at war with Iran, but it's coming. Yeah. It is one million degrees outside.

00:01:16

Erin

Yes. I decided to come at the hottest time of the year where there's like a heat warning every day. My phone keeps being like, don't go outside, please.

JPC

And that's Erin Keif, that's Adal Rifai, and I'm John Patrick Coan, and this is Hey Riddle Riddle, the podcast.

Adal

Erin, anywhere you go, it's the hottest time of the year.

Erin

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JPC

Yeah. To sit in your skin, you mean? You mean to be a person?

Erin

To exist as a person? I do believe that, though. I think that my natural form is I'm sort of like a pink, glittery mist that decided to be a person for a while, and it hurts. I don't like it. I can't wait to go back to being a mist.

Adal

Yeah, I always think of myself as like a gargoyle, where I'm like, I love being still and observing, and I love being on roofs, but I don't want to be moving around.

JPC

I think of myself as that puddle that Alex Mack becomes. That's still Alex Mack. Well, let's talk about

00:02:37

Adal

Theseus' Alex Mack. Theseus' Alex Mack! At what point? How many boards do you remove? So this is like a prestige situation, right?

Erin

Illusionist. You're going to... Illusionist? No, no, I'm joking.

JPC

They built a brand new Jessica Biel every day for that movie and Edward Norton never knew the difference. He said, this is the same Jessica Biel. And they said, yes, this is the same Jessica Biel. And everyone's just snickering like a cartoon dog.

Erin

They didn't pay Paul Giamatti on that movie because they couldn't because they were using the budget on building new Jessica Biel's.

Adal

I don't think Paul Giamatti gets paid.

Erin

No, no, no.

Adal

I think it's like when they have like a monkey on Friends or something where they're like... You don't think they paid that?

Erin

No, they paid that monkey. I went to that monkey's New Year's party this year because they live in the hills obviously off of the residuals of Friends and there was so much cocaine.

JPC

I don't mean to do a ship of Theseus Mack on that monkey, Erin, but that monkey is deceased.

Erin

This is Yeah, I always see that monkey at Musso and Frank's just with a different girl every time.

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JPC

Stevie Nicks one night. The monkey from Friends has other credits too. Outbreak. Yeah, Outbreak. It's the monkey from Outbreak as well. Yes.

Adal

Which is, in the monkeyverse, is that, can I say that?

Erin

Yeah.

Adal

In the monkeyverse, Outbreak is like their Citizen Kane. Right. Like that's Godfather 2 for monkeys.

Erin

That monkey did like four years on Grey's Anatomy and got killed off. He's been around the block.

JPC

Who didn't, though? Honestly, Grey's Anatomy went on way too long. It's still going on. I also did not.

Erin

It's still happening. It's 20 years in. So do you ever do Grey's Anatomy?

Adal

Yeah. Hell yeah. She was a cadaver, I think. Is that real? She was a maybe a dead body on Chicago Hope. She's been on Chicago Hope twice. Once is maybe like a person who dies and then once is like some sort of like worker of like a city bureaucratic worker or something.

JPC

Sure. They say the best two days of any actress life is the day that you die on Chicago Hope and the day that you're a city bureaucratic worker on Chicago Hope.

Adal

They say you die three times. Once when you physically pass away. Once when someone says your name for the last time. Once when you get your last residual check for Chicago Hope. It's only gonna be two hits. You hit the screen, I'm just gonna hang out and play with Max the Ching.

00:05:05

JPC

Is that the credits for Chicago Hope? Hell yeah!

Erin

I didn't know that.

JPC

No way it is. And too expensive.

Erin

One of the worst panic attacks I had in Chicago, and I had a lot, was... And we're going through your top ten, right? Yeah, here's the top ten!

JPC

Holding a Johnny Carson envelope next to my head.

Erin

You're confusing multiple things here. Sure! I went to go audition for, I think it was Chicago Fire? It was one of the Chicago.

JPC

That's the Chicago professional soccer team.

Erin

And it was two hours to get there because it was like southeast by I didn't have a car. I had to take the train. Sure. It was like two hours to get there, maybe a little longer. And then I went in and I had to say one line and it was like, hey, back up. There were no survivors. And I said it and I did it once and they went, OK. Thank you.

Adal

Erin, no judgment, did you say it just like you said it now?

Erin

I don't want to say.

Adal

With a Boston accent, and funny.

Erin

Hey, back up, there were no survivors.

JPC

Big wink to the camera.

Erin

I was doing big swings, I went.

00:06:05

JPC

Big wink to the camera.

Erin

And I didn't get it, but also I looked and was like, oh my God, it's two and a half hours back. I took the day off from nannying. I don't know, how am I going to make rent? This is such a nightmare. And the whole way back was like,

Adal

If I was a casting agent, I would… Win. Win. Thank you. When I'm a casting agent.

JPC

Believe in yourself.

Adal

When I'm a casting agent, I want people to tell me stuff like that where like when they come in and say the one line, it's like, okay, that's whatever. I don't care. What's the story of today? And you're like, I took the day off work. I traveled two hours each way. And I'm like, you got it. You got the job.

Erin

Not only that, but the people I nanny for, they had to stay home. They couldn't find last minute childcare. They affected so many people's day.

Adal

But up top, before the episode... It's like a bunch of people with broken arms and black eyes.

00:07:06

JPC

The Midwest polite casting director.

Adal

I'm like, no, it's fine. But before credits, or maybe every time we go to commercial break, I want to post on the TV those sob stories so people get a sense of like, oh... This is why. I thought I hated that character or that actor, but I didn't realize that this was their story. So I feel like that would be really fun.

JPC

I watched Star Wars episode one recently and after the credits hit there's like a big like you know explainer text that comes up it's the Star Wars crawl but it just is like Jake Lloyd's parents were actually a lot and it's not really his fault because most of what you see on screen is like projections from what his parents were kind of making up. There's a reason Macaulay Culkin doesn't act much anymore. Yeah I'm sitting there watching I go yeah I like this movie a little better. And then at the end it goes, Jerjer Binks! Huh. Well, that one got away from us.

Erin

If someone's bored at work right now and you know how to make that Star Wars scroll, can you please put what J.P.

Adal

Simmons said verbatim? There's gotta be some easy way to make this. I love in the credits, it's like... I would fucking die. The movie's not even released yet, and they say, Jojo Binks, whoo, that one got away from us. It's like, there's still time. If you could put this crawler on.

00:08:13

???

A galaxy at war. The Imperial Trade Federation is blockading the planet of Naboo. Also on Naboo, Jojo Binks. Now. Hold on, because, now, did I, the actor who plays him is black, not that it matters!

JPC

You're sitting there, it's 1999, you're watching the scroll and you're like, oh this is gonna be the worst movie I've ever seen.

Erin

This is going on way too long.

Adal

Some of these aliens look like a certain race, but we didn't mean for that.

Erin

So anyways, enjoy the film.

JPC

So anyway, enjoy the film. Oh, and this is Hey Riddle Riddle.

Adal

Dot dot dot, please don't do Jar Jar Binks patois.

JPC

Please avoid the Jar Jar Patois. Rewatching episode one, which I have recently, and knowing in your heart that the Jar Jar Binks voice is not even the worst of the voices in that movie. Oh boy.

Erin

My least favorite Star Wars character of all time is the robot with the cough.

00:09:15

Adal

General Grievous. That's my word. Because I'm like, why are we giving a robot a cough?

Erin

Horrible.

Adal

Yeah. Why wouldn't we if we have the technology? And he has, doesn't he have like four arms or something? Yeah.

Erin

Everything about him, he's my least favorite fictional character of all time. Erin, I agree with you.

JPC

This is insane! What an insane take!

Adal

I agree, but here's the thing is, on the opposite side of the spectrum, on the other side of the coin, I think the best character of all time is Sebulba. Yeah, Sebulba's fun.

Erin

Which one is that?

Adal

He's the guy who walks on his hands and drives with his feet. He's a podracer. He's the podracer.

Erin

He's the messy podracer. Oh, yeah. Okay.

JPC

I don't mind saying if this is not true I don't mind spreading it around but there was some it was like Star Wars Force Awakens or some video game that they brought George Lucas on to get to do like a writing credit on and they're like sitting at the table and they're pitching him the idea for the game they're like what we really need for the villain of this game is like his Darth name you know he's gonna be a Sith What do you think his name should be? Seth MacFarlane. He said Seth MacFarlane. And George Lucas thought about it for a while and he was like, I'd either go with Darth Icky or Darth Insanius.

00:10:28

???

Oh.

JPC

I want to die.

Adal

Did he ever have it or did he lose it?

JPC

I'm

Adal

Any movie should be sort of run like a business, I think.

JPC

I mean, he truly did, like, because I think that he financed episode one by himself, which is why it was such a mess, because he didn't have a studio being like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He just did it all himself. And the way that he did it.

Erin

I think that studio would have gone, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

JPC

20th Century Fox would be like, I'm gonna lose my fucking job.

Erin

I'm gonna lose my job.

JPC

No, I don't think he ever had it. But you know, nobody ever has it, right? And no movies are made by one person, right? They're made by- Ari Aster. That's right. Damn near killed her. I was also thinking like Eddie Murphy, The Klumps. Pretty damn near sure that was basically one guy.

00:11:39

Erin

Yeah, think back to that set. He's holding the boom mic.

JPC

What if he was? He's doing like Hercules and making fart sounds as the boom mic guy. They're like, Eddie, only the people on stage are going to be seen in the movie.

Erin

We're worried about you. Rest, Eddie. Eddie, please. You're overextending yourself. Eddie, please.

Adal

We're here together in person and we're just enjoying it, okay?

Erin

One of those lunatics, sorry, that is binging Hey Riddle Riddle and listening to like eight episodes a day. You might remember a time when we were all in person. We would record on Sunday nights. This is just like that. And this is just like that. It's Monday morning. We're more evolved now, but we used to sometimes start recording at like 9 p.m. and go till 1 in the morning on a Sunday night. And now we're back in that kind of madness. And let's see how it goes.

00:12:42

JPC

And we have a guest in the studio. Wouldn't that be fucked if we just did this for 15 minutes?

Erin

It's like the most famous person we've ever had.

JPC

Go ahead and say something.

Erin

We got Hillary Clinton here with us today.

JPC

Hillary Clinton sitting there on the fourth mic just like doing like the neck cut like, I don't want to be... She's trying to make eye contact with her publicist that's in the next room on her phone.

Erin

She's like, Maria, please, please.

JPC

We know you're texting each other. Who else could you be texting? Who else would you be texting, get me out of here right now?

Erin

We kept talking over her. She wanted to get in on that Star Wars bit. She had so much stuff. All right. Okay. I have, later on in this, some original riddles. Oh, good. That have a new riddle format written by my friend Michael that I also wrote some as well. Whoa. But for now, I want to do warm-up riddles. And I know the theme of this seems like I should have been on the receiving end of these warm-up riddles, but I saw the I'm

00:14:02

Adal

You should be only looking at mine from the neck up.

Erin

I'm trying.

Adal

Okay, that's on you.

Erin

Don't dress so slutty if you don't want me to.

JPC

Are we going to talk about it? Speaking of dress slutty, we were talking about this because it is 100 million degrees in Chicago and we're like, okay, so it's going to be hot. We're going to be in a studio. We have to dress appropriately. Erin and I, I would say we both have tank tops on. Yeah.

Adal

Adal? I'm in my slut summer. My slummer, if you will.

JPC

It looks like the dead of winter. Long pants, full crew cut wool socks, two shirts. Insane.

Erin

Okay. I'm sorry I said you dressed like a slut. You look fantastic. And sluts are great. I'm digging myself an alcohol.

Adal

Can that be the title of this episode?

Erin

No. And sluts are great. And sluts are great. That makes sense. Erin, that makes sense. Okay. These are Broadway musical riddles.

Adal

Ooh. Yeah, Erin. Erin, you'll answer these.

Erin

Yeah, no, I think that these are well known enough that you guys can get them.

Adal

I guess we'll fucking see.

JPC

What are the Broadway musicals that I know?

00:15:04

Adal

You just saw Hadestown.

JPC

No, you didn't see Hadestown. I didn't see it. Moana. Yeah. And Kanto. Okay. Are you counting in... Oh, yeah. I'm counting in space, French.

Erin

These are from Lauren. And Lauren says, here's to a thousand more years of Hey Riddle Riddle, which is sort of the cruelest

Adal

I've signed a sheet to freeze my head and do riddles.

Erin

Oh boy.

JPC

A thousand more years. I'll commit to it. Yeah. I'll do the podcast for a thousand more years. Erin?

Erin

Yep. Um, I could do another 18 minutes. 20 minutes? Yeah. My favorite joke. Okay. Um, okay. I have some change one letter Broadway show riddles. This was a category on Jeopardy! and it was so fun I wrote some more. Nice. And I actually saw this category on Jeopardy! recently and... Did you think it was so fun?

JPC

Yeah. Then why didn't you write some more?

Erin

Oh, I was too busy writing. It was literally the same night that I wrote the Lou story, so I was a little busy.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Trying to figure out what rhymes with what. Here's the example.

00:16:05

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Skimbleshanks wears a fedora and a magical. Hats. And magical Mr. Mistoffelees dons a beret. You got it.

JPC

This is Hats. Hats. This is Hats the musical.

Erin

All right, so you get it. Okay, for Easter, these New York bohemians are giving up their apartment payments. Lent. Yes.

Adal

526,600 fishes.

JPC

And Erin, just a couple more songs from Lent.

Erin

Oh yeah, this is easy.

JPC

Let's open up a... Open up a restaurant on Ash Wednesday.

Erin

In this Cervantes adaptation, Don Quixote loves his green tea while fighting windmills.

00:17:10

Adal

The Man of La Macha. The Man of La Macha. That's a good one.

???

I am I, Don Quixote, the Lord of La Macha.

Adal

That's JPC's ringtone. What are the books you've consumed? I feel like you talk about that. Wait, what? Hold on. Don't you talk about Don Quixote a lot? It's like you read it and it's funny.

JPC

What the fuck is going on? First of all, I've never read Don Quixote. You always mention who's the sidekick. Sancho Panza? Yeah, you always talk about Sancho Panza. You always talk about Sancho Panza. This is the most gaslit I've ever been in my entire life.

Erin

You're obsessed with Sancho Panza. I'm obsessed with Sancho Panza? This is like the thing when we did the past life reading and you were like, I went to this lady and all she talked about was horses. And cousins.

???

And we were like, that's all you're fucking talking about.

JPC

Control F on the fucking scripts of when I've talked about Sancho Panza.

Erin

Jason Robert Brown's exploration of a marriage falling apart is now full of grizzlies.

00:18:27

Adal

Five Bears Later. No, what's the... Oh, shit.

Erin

You got it. I know you know it.

Adal

What's the musical name? I can't help you out. I thought it was Five Years Later, but I'm... The Last Five Bears.

JPC

Yes, The Last Five Bears.

Erin

I do want to see a scene. Okay, great.

Adal

JPC and Erin, you are a married bear couple, and you're baby bear. You like things one way, you like things another certain way. The baby's sort of a mix of the two of you, and you're having a meeting to discuss how your child's a little off.

???

I just think we have to be on the same page about these things.

Erin

Oh yeah? Okay. So when we get a call from the school that our kid is playing dice, playing cards, has a gambling problem,

???

Okay.

Erin

What parent famously has a gambling problem?

???

I don't know. Well, okay. First of all, it's not a gambling problem if you win almost over half the time.

???

Yeah.

???

Okay? Then it's actually a career.

00:19:29

???

Right.

???

Would you say that someone who does a World Series of Poker has a gambling problem?

Erin

Yeah.

???

Okay. Well, I didn't know that.

Erin

Okay.

???

So you would say that. Yeah. So I'm going to argue it.

Erin

And then also, for your first reaction to be, if they get kicked out of school, that's a win because I gambled away their college funds.

???

Do you think that part of it could be sending them to school and the only breakfast they've had is one hot pot of honey? Could that be part of it? Because I would like to do balanced breakfast.

Erin

Wow.

???

Salmon, berry from tree. That's not always available to us. Word from Log. Okay. Just honey for breakfast? Maybe that's like a thousand, you know, grams of sugar.

Erin

Okay. Maybe husband is too busy in Vegas in the world, what is it called? Lazy River.

???

Okay. Why is it I only get a bear job on my birthday and Father's Day?

Adal

We see the baby bear peeking around the corner, crying tears in his eyes.

00:20:35

Erin

You know what? I think that that's just right.

???

Oh, you think that just right? Yeah. Well, maybe I gotta call up Goldilocks and see what she... I've been faking it every time. What's that?

Erin

Yeah, I've been faking it every time. And remember when I told you I was hibernating? I wasn't hibernating, I was just trying to avoid having bear sex with you.

???

You spent four months avoiding having bear sex with me, pretending to be asleep?

Adal

Yeah.

???

I was hibernating. God, I'm exhausted. Maybe this is why you're such a bared bitch.

Erin

What? Okay, justice for that bear.

Adal

I put a pinecone in my ass and faked sleep for four months to get out of sex.

Erin

We've all done that, okay?

Adal

I lost 80 pounds to not have sex with you.

Erin

Jason Robert Brown. Oh, we already did that. As Andrew Lloyd Webber wrote, don't online RSVP for me, Argentina.

JPC

Evita. And you love it?

Erin

That rules. Rachel Zegler is Evita. This Rachel Ziegler playing Evita has reignited my love for the song Rainbow High and now I'm listening to it non-stop. I have to get off of that, my Evita train, and get back on my Jesus Christ Superstar train because we're seeing it.

00:21:55

JPC

We are, yes, finally, an in for me. Yes! Yes. We are seeing it. Soon we're seeing it.

Erin

And you know that musical.

JPC

I know Jesus Christ Superstar very well. Is that going to be one of them?

Erin

Yeah, maybe. Or maybe not.

JPC

I don't know Avida. And Rachel Ziegler is in an Avida movie or she's on Broadway doing it?

Erin

She's on the West End doing it and it's getting a lot of attention because... Because we're talking about it? Because we're talking about it. But she, Don't Cry For Me Argentina, which I'm sure you know that song.

???

Don't cry for me Argentina. There you go.

???

Yeah.

Erin

This production has her going outside the theater, like on top of the theater, on the balcony, and singing it to the crowd, whatever crowd is out there for free during the show, and they film it.

Adal

And some people are pissed because they're like, I paid tickets to see the show and we don't get to see the song.

Erin

But everyone I know who saw it said it worked really well. And then she does the reprise inside so they felt like they weren't missing out.

Adal

I saw Sunset Boulevard and one of the songs is the guy walking through Times Square. And they film him, every night they film him live and we as an audience watch it on like a screen on stage and it is really cool.

00:23:00

JPC

Are they watching it on a screen in the audience? Because it would be fucking awesome if they just had to sit in silence. for three minutes while she sings that song. And they could kind of hear it. They're buying drinks and snacks. If you go out to the lobby, you can hear it better. This is the one good song I know. Everybody rushes the lobby for that song. So they could like hear it a little better. Concessions gets fucked.

Erin

That's so funny. I don't know why this reminds me of this. I went to a wedding this past weekend. And I thought I was like, if I still made sketches, I'd make this into a sketch. I was on the dance floor and dancing and I was like, I would love to hear what this sounds like if the music audio came out. And just us like sort of half singing the lyrics at each other. Yeah, I mean, like, I think it would sound so embarrassing. I'd say just be like, I don't care.

Adal

I love it. There's a series on YouTube. That's the song, by the way, that you don't know the words to?

???

I don't know the words to that either. It's just I don't care.

Adal

I love it. It's just I don't care. And I drove my bridge over a car today.

???

Okay, so here's the problem. Oh my god! You're married!

00:24:04

JPC

I drove my bridge over a car today.

Adal

There's a YouTube series from like 15 years ago, Casey knows it, where it's like, maybe not popular, but they take music videos and stuff and take out the track and add in what they thought it sounded like live on set. So it's like the Beach Boys singing, I Get Around, and they're clapping and all you hear is like the offbeat clapping and then they're like... That's so fun. It's a laugh every time. I never don't laugh. That's basically how Erin sings every song. Wait a minute.

Erin

Yeah. You guys, I'm a vibes person. I don't know about nitty gritty. I don't know about these lyrics that you guys keep claiming.

Adal

You're like Weird Al but mumbling.

Erin

Yeah. And where's my millions of dollars, huh?

JPC

This is actually a pastiche mumble. It's not a parody mumble.

Adal

I think you should do weddings and you should be like Dan band or something where it's like you do covers but the way your signature is like You just do that for every song.

00:25:08

JPC

And Erin, you only do requests. So you just, the band knows the songs, but you just pull a thing out of the thing and go, okay, we're going to do Total Eclipse of the Heart by Pat Benatar, whoever sings that. It's not Pat Benatar, is it?

Erin

Yeah, I think so.

JPC

I think it is. Okay, it could be.

Erin

Give me an request.

JPC

I can do it.

Adal

I thought it made Gloria Gaynor. I don't know that song at all.

JPC

Well, you have to say the name of the song. Don't just do the thing that she's supposed to do.

Adal

Aaron Toxic by Britney Spears. Yeah.

Erin

That part doesn't even have lyrics! Hold on, she's on to something. I can't stress enough.

Adal

If someone can do the Star Wars scroll crawl credits, but with what Erin just did.

Erin

I just put this over the music video.

JPC

Now I like it better, now I like it better that Erin's singing the melody of the song, not the lyrics. She's like, she gets under pressure and she's like...

00:26:11

Erin

The best compliment I get from doing Hey Riddle Riddle, this was like seven years ago, is I did the Pretty Little Liars theme song. I did my best attempt at it and people are like, that is the lyrics I still hear.

Adal

Oh, interesting. What were the lyrics again?

Erin

And a secret, and I lock it, and this time I stay. And you put it in your pocket, and this girl's in a grave. Nailed it. Okay. Yeah, you can come see my production of Mumbling Evita in Winnemac Park this week. 1.30 in the morning.

JPC

It was a couple weeks ago.

Erin

Please bring me boxed wine. Boxed wine! Um, okay. In this Elton John and Tim Rice musical, Simba is into some freaky stuff.

Adal

The lion kink.

Erin

Yeah, you got it. You can participate in this.

00:27:13

Adal

Kingy boots.

Erin

I'd like to see a scene. You're both Timon and Pumbaa. You can decide who is who. Okay. And one of you is going to reveal to the other that you have some like maybe unusual kinks that the other didn't know about.

???

Oh, I feel so dirty. I was wallowing in the mud. I feel so... so... I should... I should probably wash this off, right? I mean wash it off if you want to wash it off. I mean if it's just between you and me. If we're just in the watering hole. Nathan Lane, Nathan Lane. I actually don't.

Adal

Other guy, the guy who played Pumbaa.

JPC

No, you'll never pull it. You could have pulled Lane, but you'll never pull Pumbaa. It's probably the same guy who played Gimli, right?

???

Probably?

Erin

This scene is a mess.

???

John Rhys-Davies. But I think, actually I might just leave the mud on because it makes me feel sexy.

???

Goomba, if you want to leave the mud on because it makes you feel sexy, you should leave the mud on. Okay.

00:28:17

JPC

But if you feel like you need to take the mud off and you want to put it in this little cup and then not care what happens to the little cup, even if someone's very thirsty, you don't ask what happens to the little cup, you can do that as well.

Adal

Writes on a piece of paper. What the fuck? Writes on a piece of paper. How come on my titties? Shows it to Erin. Waits for her reaction. Puts a question mark. Erin, is that okay if I sing that?

Erin

I slide back a piece of paper. It says ten million dollars.

???

I look at it, I nod, won't do the song, won't sing, ha come on my titties. Grabs the piece of paper, ha come on my titties. What a wonderful phrase. Scene.

???

No, no. Keep going.

JPC

Alright, scene. For real scene. Do Nathan Lyne. Someone do Nathan Lyne.

Erin

Oh no, the birdcage.

Adal

Oh, it's the birdcage. I'm Nathan Lane. Is this Nathan Lane? I was in the producers. Does he have the werewolf?

00:29:25

Erin

Uh, when you see a guy screech for stars in the sky, you can bet that she's doing it for some doll.

JPC

Okay, but do Nathan Lane without singing. Ugh. Yeah. Because that's Timon. Timon is Nathan Lane without singing, right?

Erin

Why didn't I just draw them a map? That's pretty good.

Adal

Wait, can we do the scene over? And we'll do Timon as Seth Rogen. Wait, I'll be Seth Rogen and then who played the Billy Eichner?

Erin

Billy Eichner. Hey, actually, no, thank you. You know what that felt like? You know the scene in Community where Troy goes to get the pizza? No. And he comes back and the room's on fire and someone's been shot and he's like, ah!

JPC

Yeah.

Erin

Yeah, that's how that felt coming. I like felt like I turned around for one second and then you guys had made a mess of that.

JPC

Masterpiece. Oh, would you like there would be a good Timon?

Erin

Come on my titties.

???

What a wonderful phrase.

JPC

No passing craze.

Erin

It means I'm horny. I don't have to change any words.

00:30:27

JPC

I think it works just fine.

Erin

Don't start a come on my titties and get mad when I start having fun.

Adal

Can you come on my titties? Erin, if we write the line, come. Period.

Erin

They'll fall in love and here's the bottom line. They're coming on their titties. Huh? I'm gonna come.

JPC

Not yet. Sitting down to write the line come and then being like, okay, so they're kids for the first 40 minutes of this.

Adal

I'm gonna bust a mighty load. This is bad. This is bad. Well, I've never seen cockerballs with quite so little hair. Erin, is this good?

00:31:28

Erin

Hi, hi.

Adal

You guys, I keep... Keep a towel by the side of the bed, be prepared. Erin, we just got nominated for a Tony. Erin, we got nominated for a Tony.

JPC

A Casey Tony, which is worth nothing. Casey Tony's nominating us for many Casey Tonys.

Adal

Arabian Nuts. No. Wait, come on in, come on in. Arabian Nuts. You ain't never gonna come on me. Commercial! Commercial! Commercial! Break!

JPC

All right, bon voyage, Erin. Geez, can you believe this? Have fun. A steamship to Antarctica.

Adal

Yeah, that is wild. It's weird that she packed a suitcase just full of penguins. You'd think she'd bring clothes, but.

00:32:31

JPC

Yeah, it is it. I can never remember. Is it they have those there or that's the place that they don't have those?

Adal

Oh, maybe they don't have them and she's trying to bring them there.

JPC

Seed them or something. Yeah. I didn't read her email. It's something about finding a medicine for the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah or something for her blah, blah, blah condition or something.

Adal

Penguin psychosis. Anyway, I'm getting pretty hungry and I could use some food. Maybe we should have some Tempo.

JPC

Oh yeah, I mean we should definitely have some Tempo because Tempo's perfectly portioned lunches and dinners take the guesswork out of eating well and are fully prepared and can be heated in the microwave in just three minutes.

Adal

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00:33:35

JPC

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Adal

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JPC

I also think that there are rules and restrictions for getting on that boat because it seems sort of like a big science vessel and it'll be okay.

Adal

Yeah, or it might turn into like the thing.

???

The thing is what I was thinking.

Adal

Yeah. Oh, GPC, I feel so silly. Erin went to go visit her aunt, Artika. You know how in Boston they all have crazy names?

00:34:38

JPC

Oh, yeah, and crazy accents. I can barely understand a word she says.

Adal

Yeah.

JPC

Okay.

Adal

Anyway, her aunt lives in Antarctica and... That makes sense. Seems like Erin is having a bit of the thing situation going on, but I feel very relaxed because I have been dabbling in some Schedule 35. Have you heard?

JPC

Oh, Schedule 35. Now, I had heard, Adal, that there's an emerging movement around psilocybin. It's proven to help with mental health, PTSD, anxiety, and depression. And I can see how you'd have a little anxiety and depression about, you know, our co-host going to her aunt's Antarctica or whatever.

Adal

Yeah, and she might be like a thing, like one of those. Anyway, Schedule 35 sends you precisely measured micro doses of psilocybin that you can take daily to enhance your day, especially if like your friend's going through a stressful time and keeps kind of leaning on you and you're like, I don't know, man.

JPC

Yeah, and scheduled 35 ships all across Canada and the U.S., and is the most notable brand currently in the space. Speaking of ships, the ship that she took to do her, like, whatever the thing thing, and I think it's better that it's becoming a the thing thing, because honestly, she could meet Kurt Russell. Oh, yeah. Right? Kurt Russell, right? I'm not wrong about that, right?

00:35:53

Adal

Yeah, and Erin's a bit of a Goldie Hawn type, so we'll see how that plays out. But I feel Better than ever. I feel like anytime I take Schedule 35, I feel relaxed. I feel creative. I feel sort of on top of my game. So it's been a real treat. No offense, Erin.

JPC

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???

Hey boys, it's me, Kurt Russell. Get 15% off with code RIDDLE at schedule35.co.

Adal

That's 15% off at schedule35.co and use code RIDDLE and enjoy my son in this summer's movie.

JPC

I don't hate your son. I think he's fine.

Adal

Yeah, he's actually, he always plays like kind of a, you know, kind of a... Yeah, of all the sons of the famous things, I think there's really, he's, I don't mind him. Yeah, agreed.

00:36:59

JPC

Agreed from his dad. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Erin

Okay guys, now I can hang out. I just sat in the sun for a little while. Whoa! Drinking water. Yikes! No, I look fantastic. I just normally look very sick and that's why you're confused. Oh. But I'm taking care of myself this summer.

JPC

This is you healthy?

Erin

Yeah, me healthy.

JPC

I gots to have.

Erin

Yeah, well, it's not just my outer health, it's my inner health as well.

Adal

Oh, like your guts and your tummy and everything?

Erin

Carrots? Eating carrots? No, no, my brain. My brain. I've been using BetterHelp, which is online therapy. And you know what? It's so nice to be able to message my counselor anytime, even during the summer. I'm prioritizing myself. I'm getting everything in order.

Adal

Well, Erin, your grey matter is looking gorge.

Erin

Thank you!

Adal

And also, I know with BetterHelp, they have over 30,000 therapists. BetterHelp is the world's largest online therapy platform, having served over 5 million people globally.

JPC

And there is nothing like talking through your issues with a professional. It can give you like new perspective. I really benefit from therapy and just kind of like having a moment for self-reflection and a time scheduled every week where I can explore that self-reflection with someone who is trained to kind of help guide me through that.

00:38:17

Adal

Oh yeah. And Erin, I've heard it's like soups convenient too. You can join a session with a therapist.

Erin

That's cool. Cool way to talk.

Adal

I actually got younger by using BetterHelp. I'm like 22 now. It's super convenient. You can join a session with a therapist at the click of a button, which for my generation was like... As the largest online therapy provider in the world, BetterHelp can provide access to mental health professionals with a diverse variety of expertise. Unwind from work with BetterHelp.

Erin

Our listeners can get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com slash Riddle. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P.com slash Riddle. R-I-D-D-L-E.

Adal

Based. Honestly, based.

JPC

You slayed with that one, Erin.

Erin

Dab. I need to go back to therapy. Hey Riddle Riddle.

00:39:19

Adal

And we're back. We wrote the script. We pounded it out.

Erin

I think we're opening... And then we put pen to paper.

Adal

We pounded it out. Then we wrote it. The Lion Come will open on the West End.

Erin

And we changed it from The Lion King to The Lion Come. Sorry, that was draft three or four.

Adal

We're opening on the West End, which is what I call L.A. next year, next August.

Erin

So if you want to hunt and kill us, you know where to find us. That zapped me. I feel like that aged me a hundred years. When we were in break, I said that I kept swinging between just intense hatred for that bit and loving it so much. I mean, you saying be prepared, really fucking.

JPC

You know, it's the opposite of love. It's not hatred, it's indifference. So you were kind of horseshoeing along there, Erin. You were close to them both.

Erin

Well said. We have a few more of these from Lauren. Thank you, Lauren, for writing these. I could use a thousand more of these if people are interested.

00:40:20

JPC

There can't be a thousand musicals, though.

Erin

I think so. There's probably that many. These dancers sing, God, I Hope I Get It, but with the help of vitamin C, they won't get scurvy.

???

Okay, Vitamin C's in the graduation.

Erin

God, I hope I get it.

Adal

I hope I get it. I hope I get it. This is a chorus.

Erin

Uh-huh.

Adal

Wait, well, Vitamin C. A chorus line.

Erin

A chorus line.

Adal

A chorus line.

Erin

Wow. Adal, you get the point.

???

What? Oh, wait. Hold on now. Hold on now. The only Southern order. You're so mad.

JPC

We're in Southern court all of a sudden. The only way I could possibly win this game is if someone tells me the musical.

Erin

Where did you get that seersucker suit?

JPC

No, I'm off, you suckers!

Adal

Wait, is he saying your honor? Because I'm hearing your honor.

???

Yawn. Yawn. I was watching a movie late last night and I was a bit of a yawner.

Erin

You guys.

???

What?

Erin

I got more texts when Karen Reid was found innocent.

JPC

Yeah.

Erin

Than I did on my birthday.

JPC

I'll tell you what, Erin. I got more texts when Karen Reid was found innocent from you than I normally get. I got one text that said Karen Reid was found innocent. Erin, did you cry?

00:41:31

Erin

I don't want to say.

JPC

She did. Yeah.

Erin

I just, I could not believe it. I was so surprised. I did call my mom right away.

JPC

It does seem likely that you got a lot of texts because it does seem like... I talked about it too much? You talked about it a lot. I definitely think it was maybe the first... Was it a lot of the first conversations you were having with people? They were like, how's it going? You're like, great. Let me tell you about the Care Read trial.

Erin

Yeah. Yeah. I sort of was looking for any opportunity and moment. Like, I just wanted anyone to bring up anything tangential so I could go off.

Adal

If you

JPC

Erin, famously on the show, I don't know a dick about shit, but his chorus line, is this more like a dance musical? Because it sounds like a dance musical.

Erin

It is, but it is based on real interviews with dancers.

00:42:34

JPC

I've talked to some dancers, I gotta say. That sounds boring as shit. Hey, if you want to talk about dance, talk to a dancer. You want to talk about literally anything else?

???

I would avoid conversations when they're turned.

Erin

Each of their songs is sort of like, they talk about their origin story, or it's like one of them is like being not confident in their acting, one of them is feeling like not attractive enough, and then they did a song based on all of them.

Adal

They load up their headshots. I've seen the YouTube video of the guy, maybe it's from like a documentary, but it's a guy auditioning for CourseLine.

Erin

Oh, that CourseLine documentary is so hard to watch.

Adal

The casting directors are like crying.

Erin

Oh, he's so good in that. Why are they crying?

Adal

Wait, what?

Erin

Because there's a famous monologue on a chorus line that one of the dancers does, where he didn't feel safe enough being vulnerable around other people. And the musical takes place in the 70s, and it's him talking about being gay and what he had to deal with in that. And the guy who did the monologue, I think it hit a little close to home for him, the guy who ended up getting the part.

JPC

Got it.

Erin

And when they showed his full audition, but also the part of that documentary that is like so raw and hard to watch is there's a part where a woman has to sing a really high note and they played a montage of all the women trying to hit that note in the auditions. And it is, it's too vulnerable. It's too hard to watch. So skip that.

00:43:54

Adal

Can you give us a little impression?

Erin

I will blow out your ears.

JPC

Erin, I got a question for you. Yeah. Do you go into that audition thinking, I know I can't hit the note, but I can get close? Or do you think that all of the people that went into that audition said, I can hit this note, I've hit this note in practice, I'm able to hit this note, and then couldn't do it under the pressure?

Erin

What a Wonderful Phrase.

JPC

I just, I can't see a situation where I'm like going into the interview and they're like, okay, so it says here that I have to know C++. Now I don't know programming at all, but I think I'm going to wing it for the interview. Like you, you must, I think it's fair play to play the clips because it's like, hey man, you knew that the song was coming in the interview, right? Like you knew it was coming.

00:45:02

Adal

I think there's a certain amount, there's a certain percentage of As the kids say, Doolooloo, from Broadway actors. I feel like there's a confidence they have to use as armor that won't allow them to back down from a challenge.

Erin

You gotta hype yourself up and do a persona of your most confident self in order to do that. God bless them.

JPC

Do you think Lin-Manuel Miranda would have gotten cast as Hamilton if he hadn't? No.

Erin

I don't know.

JPC

If he hadn't run that by somebody else?

Adal

I know, I know, I know, I know.

Erin

How can this sad teen wave through a window with such big ur-sign? Is that how you say it? Pause.

Adal

Bear Evan Hansen.

Erin

Yep.

JPC

Bear Evan Hansen. Is it ur-sign? Ur-sign, yeah. Ur-sign, yeah. Por-sign.

Erin

In this Cole Porter nautical musical, feet are delightful, delicious, and de-lovely. This is my favorite one. Sorry, Erin, can you repeat it? I missed the first part. In this Cole Porter nautical musical, feet are delightful, delicious, and de-lovely.

00:46:05

Adal

Nautical musical? Anything blows? Parts of potatoes? Anything... Wait, is it really? Anything goes? Yep.

Erin

It's the feet part is what you're focusing on.

Adal

Anything toes. Anything toes.

Erin

Anything toes.

Adal

The best opening to any Indiana Jones movie is that song. And then also I saw Anything Goes. What?

JPC

Which movie is that? Oh, is that the... It's the one where he... Is that the second one? The second one.

Adal

Where he's in the club or whatever. Where Kate Capshaw, formerly Mrs. Spielberg, sings Anything Goes. Oh no. Yeah, they broke up 25 years ago. No wait, he married... Was he with Kate Capshaw? Wait, wait, wait.

JPC

No, no, no. He's still with her.

Adal

Okay. But he was with the woman from the first Indiana Jones? Third.

JPC

What? No, no, no. He left the first wife to be with Kate Capshaw. But it wasn't on the set. It was like seven years after.

Adal

Well, I mean, who knows? E.T. bone down. But I saw anything goes with Sutton Foster and Joel Grey. E.T. Bone Down. I don't understand what that is. E.T. Bone Down. Steven Spielberg directed E.T. E.T. Phone Home turns into E.T. Bone Down. I can't walk you through everything.

00:47:14

Erin

I think you're burning more calories in your brain than I am.

Adal

But Home to Down? My only problem is Home to Down. Not every song scans JVC. But I saw Anything Goes with Sutton Foster and Joel Grey and I was like, oh my gosh, Joel Grey, legend. And he had to wear an earpiece and he was being fed his lines. So anytime someone talked to him, there'd be three seconds of silence and then him saying a line. It was kind of sad.

JPC

Hey, it sounds like you're complaining, but the name of the fucking show is Anything Goes. So anything he did was within the parameters of the show.

Adal

Huh, I never thought about that.

Erin

I was in Anything Goes. Anything Goes.

JPC

I'm not gonna learn my lines. I'm not gonna sing any songs.

Erin

Anything Goes.

JPC

You paid for the ticket, dumbass.

Adal

Erin, who'd you play?

Erin

No one. I was just in the ensemble. That was the first time in many years, though, I think I got to play a woman in my summer theater program. I was in all the boy ensembles for a long time.

JPC

Yeah, they did reverse Shakespeare roles.

Erin

Yep. I had to... No, I guess that would just be... I was a pirate in Pirates of Penzance, and then I was a sailor in South Pacific. And my line as a 12-year-old girl in Nothing Like a Dame was, We've got every kind of feeling but the feeling of relief. We've got every kind of feeling but the feeling of relief We've got every kind of feeling The chorus of the song is, there is nothing like a dame, nothing in the world, there is nothing you can name that is anything like a dame, and then we're like, we really miss the girls, the girls are really cute.

00:48:57

JPC

I do like the idea of a guy who can feel everything but horny.

Erin

Well, he feels horny, but he doesn't feel the relief from horniness. He wishes he was in The Lion King. He wants to come, but he can't. I was a 12-year-old girl talking about being a World War II sailor. It's fine. I turned out okay.

JPC

The thing we do for children to make their art.

Erin

So these are written by my friend Michael. Thank you, Michael. These riddles were originally, he thought of these because, hypothetically, I might be planning an episode that is meant to drive JPC crazy.

JPC

These riddles were originally, hypothetically, he thought of these.

Adal

Okay. I couldn't track the sentence. Good. Trying to drive JPC crazy is like, Getting in your car, if we went outside, got in my car, and said, let's go to Chicago.

Erin

You're right. So it's like a hat on a hat. It's a little redundant is what you're saying. Yes. Like if I add more crazy to his plate, he gets normal?

Adal

Yeah. Yeah.

JPC

Yeah. Getting in your car and saying, let's drive to Chicago.

00:50:00

Adal

It's like saying, let's make Jesus Christ-like.

JPC

Yeah.

Erin

Yeah. Don't agree with us.

JPC

No. Yeah. I'm tracking with this. This definitely tracks me. Yeah.

Erin

That's like the Always Sunny joke, where Charlie's like, he doesn't even get us, man. And they're like, we're talking about you. Okay, all right.

JPC

It's like driving to a drive-thru and then asking them for their order. It's like rain. But they make it about come.

Erin

It's like being a natural blonde and going to the hair salon and asking for blonde hair.

JPC

Yeah, well, that's actually a blonde joke. And that's very funny.

Erin

He's already too crazy. I can't add any more. But these are, they were meant, you were going to be sort of a sacrificial lamb in this saddle, and I'm so sorry.

Adal

No, I'm hungry.

Erin

I only like lamb when it's been sacrificed. But these were, I wanted to sort of drive you insane and kind of gaslight you. So all of these riddles technically have two answers.

00:51:00

JPC

Oh, okay. I like that.

Erin

And one of them is a little bit more literal and one of them is a little bit more metaphorical. Now these are hard. So I'd say between me and Michael's, maybe only two of these I think work well.

???

Is this the Michael I know? Yes. Cool. Gonna fire off a quick text real quick.

Erin

Yeah, do it.

???

Just gonna say, fuck you.

Adal

Erin, do we need a piece of paper or anything?

Erin

No, I think just turn your listening ears on, keep your heart open. What do you think, do you have a chakra that you think is blocked? What chakra of yours do you think is?

Adal

What are chakras again?

Erin

They're like energy, like where energy emits from your body. This is like top of the head. Yeah, blocked. Third eye. And Adal, you were telling me earlier that you chakra to the monkey, right?

Adal

All holes filled is what I said.

Erin

Oh, God.

Adal

Airtight. My chakras are airtight.

Erin

So you were at that New Year's party.

JPC

One billion served, all holes filled. I'm clipping that.

Erin

No, don't. No. Casey.

00:52:00

JPC

Casey live clipping. Casey live clipping of this episode.

Erin

Yeah, so I don't know. I think my goals are better than mine, at least. So let's get these started.

Adal

Well, actually, let me hear them first.

JPC

I hold things together without any glue. I come in all shapes, sizes, and hues. Soon tie the knot or let me extend. Pull me too tight and I might just end. Pull me too tight and I might just end. Is this a knot?

Erin

That's close. Yeah. What's a knot made out of?

JPC

Rope. Yarm.

Erin

Yeah, that works.

JPC

Okay, great.

Erin

But that's one of the answers.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Rope. So if I had been driving you crazy, I'd been like, nope, and then would have waited for the other answer.

00:53:02

JPC

Oh, okay, okay.

Erin

But I'm nice.

JPC

So give me the riddle again. I want to get both answers because I'm a completionist and I want to platinum this thing.

Erin

I hold things together without any glue. First of all, I got dinner with Michael last night and then he was like giving the table these example, like these riddles to show them and someone asked him to read it again and he was like, ugh. And I went, so now you know. And now you know how it feels. I hold things together without any glue. I come in all shapes, sizes, and hues. Soon tie the knot and let me extend. Pull me too tight and I might just end.

JPC

And so I said rope and that was, that worked?

Erin

Yeah, so that one is, remember has two answers. So string, string and rope is the same. And the other one is more of like a metaphorical, like this is like a flowery way to explain this thing.

Adal

And Erin, do the two words like rhyme or connect? No. Okay.

Erin

They're totally different.

Adal

Hmm. Is it like patience?

Erin

No.

Adal

Pull me too hard and I might, what was it?

Erin

Pull me too tight and I might just end.

00:54:03

Adal

Pull me too.

Erin

Maybe someone with anxious attachment style would pull something too tight. Oh, their hair? No.

JPC

Their leg hair?

Erin

No.

JPC

Erin, don't make me guess the other hair. Pull me too tight.

Erin

Do it. Say it.

JPC

What's butt pubic hair called?

Erin

Oh my god, PC.

Adal

Bluebic hair?

Erin

It's your home, kick him out!

Adal

Is it bluebic hair? No. Michael bluebic hair?

JPC

Don't. There's something there, but we don't have the time. Is it a concept?

Erin

No, it's like, kind of. It's like a thing. If you have anxious attachment style, where does that show up? In your fingernails.

Adal

No, it's not literal. I'd like to see a scene. Adal, you were breaking up with JPC because JPC has gotten like a little too attached and a little too clingy. Oh my god, we totally fit in this sweater. We totally both fit in this sweater. Yeah, I'm gonna take my hat off.

00:55:03

JPC

You were so wrong.

Adal

Okay, yeah, you really just kind of swooped in there. You were so wrong. We both fit in this sweater.

JPC

No, you should wear it. It looks better on you.

Adal

Our necks are pressed together so tight. Josh, I thought we, just like a sweater, you know how sweaters come undone?

???

We're gonna go see Weezer? You got Weezer tickets?

Adal

No, that's my least favorite band, I told you. Maledroid's the only good album, and I hate everything else. Okay, on SeatGeek, they have one ticket.

JPC

Do you think we could split one ticket if we both sat on in with?

Adal

I would say you should snag it, and then I'm gonna keep talking. Josh, I feel like, much like Weezer, I feel like... Okay, someone didn't like Weezer, now they much like Weezer?

JPC

The only way I could get through to you... Change your minds on a dime!

Adal

Okay, Josh, you have to take off that guitar here controller. It's not attached to anything. You can't. It's attached to me. It's attached to us.

JPC

This is so us.

Adal

This is like when a five-year-old puts on their first Halloween costume and then they wear it for three months. A five-year-old? I guess I'd have a baby with you. I'm not... You have three kids from a previous...

00:56:15

JPC

Yeah, oh my God. What I love about kids is they tie you to someone forever. Forever.

Adal

How do I say this in a way that you'll understand? You can't.

JPC

You will. This bottle of Seagram's? And you chant. This bottle of Seagram's? My icebox?

Adal

Wait.

JPC

Awakens ancient feelings?

Adal

Yes, but ancient in terms of, you know how people used to die when they were like 27?

JPC

Oh my God, how romantic. I think our relationship should- For us to die together? I want to be thinking about you as I die.

Adal

I hope that's not what you think. I hope you're at a Weezer concert when you die. Not this one. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying I hope they play forever as well.

Erin

Oh my god, I love your sweater.

JPC

Thank you.

Erin

What a cute couple.

JPC

Would you believe this is a sweater for one? But two fit. But two fit.

Erin

You guys are so cute together. Have a good one.

JPC

Two fit in so many sweaters. Oh my God, I miss her. She was so nice.

Erin

Perfect. We might actually only get through the ones that Michael wrote. Thank God, because mine are significantly worse.

00:57:19

JPC

Now I want to hear one of yours. Yeah, why don't we do one-on-one? Why don't we go switch on one-on-one?

Erin

I literally realize this is for the best.

JPC

I'll do one of mine. Erin, sometimes you say, like, oh, I did this thing and it's not very good. And most of the time you're right. I mean, it is 100%. You called it. You know yourself better than I know you. But sometimes, Erin, you surprise yourself.

Adal

You say I phoned in this riddle, didn't spend all night writing a good one, didn't keep it tight.

JPC

Why don't you bet on yourself for once, Erin? I always do. Draft Queens.

Erin

I live in locks and treasure chests. I keep things safe and cause unrest. Without the right match, I won't give way. But once I do, you might betray.

Adal

Sierra, this is what we're talking about. Yeah, I've been wrong before.

Erin

Yeah, so I'll go back to Michael's.

Adal

I live in locks.

Erin

I see. I don't even care about this one. Capers. No. What goes with a lock?

Adal

Key. Capers.

Erin

Yeah, a key.

JPC

Messy.

Erin

And then what do you betray?

JPC

I mark the start, I note the end. I pass around, but rarely bend. I'm a part of life, like stars and rain, but when I'm gone, none can remain.

00:58:38

Adal

Mmm. The sun.

JPC

Light. But when I'm gone, none can remain. Well, the sun would be great there, right?

Erin

The way Michael said that he wrote these... Water? No. He looked up existing riddles and saw some of the words and then went, what is something else that could describe it? He took some of those words.

JPC

Work smart, not hard.

Erin

Yes.

JPC

I think I owe Michael an apology.

Erin

I think you already said fuck you.

JPC

Do you think if I text someone fuck you, I owe them an apology?

Erin

No.

JPC

I don't think so. You're right. Quick check.

Erin

I mark the start, I note the end. I pass around, but rarely bend. I'm a part of life, like stars and rain. And when I'm gone, none can remain.

JPC

This is like a part of everyday life, like breathing, oxygen. Breath.

Erin

You guys got it.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

And so that's one. And then the other one is a little bit more like, I mark the start, I note the end, I pass around but rarely bend. What's something that passes?

00:59:44

Adal

I'm

JPC

Do you remember the character from Inception? Does anyone remember the woman's name?

Erin

The, um, the top.

JPC

Well, yes, Erin, the top. That's Inception, correct.

Erin

Yes!

Adal

Just like a woman should talk about the character's top. Her blouse, Erin?

JPC

You mean her blouse? It's Marion Cotillard. Marion Cotillard.

Erin

Marion Cotillard.

JPC

Her name is like Maub or something. She's got some horrible name that's not a real name.

???

Oh yeah, Maub.

JPC

It's like Maub. Maub. Maub? Maub. The character from Inception's name is Mar. Mar sounds right.

Erin

I'm going to look it up.

JPC

Okay, we have to look it up because we need to know the character from Inception's name.

Erin

Michael, I'm going to do more of your riddles later. Maybe in the actual episode that's meant to destroy JBC.

01:00:46

JPC

Yeah, I do want to see a quick scene while Erin looks this up. She's going to be in the scene, so I don't know. It's not really... I can do both. It would be a while I look it up. You guys are in that thing where it's Erin and Adal, you got trapped in each other's eyes for that moment. That moment lasted 40 years, and you guys are like 38 years into the 40-year moment with no indication of when it will end.

Erin

I spy with my little eye... Me, it's probably me again.

Adal

It's been me the last 1,400 times.

Erin

A bottomless void.

Adal

Yeah, I see it too.

Erin

You see it too?

Adal

I see it too.

Erin

Would you rather... The first one.

Adal

Whatever the first one is. Because you always say the first one and then it's always 30 weeks. And then you say the second one. And I can't wait 30 weeks. I mean, I have to wait 30 weeks. I have to wait.

Erin

Why are you so upset? Did I forget your birthday again?

01:01:47

Adal

Time is nothing. Birthdays are nothing.

Erin

Can I tell you what kind of hurts my feelings? This is something new I haven't said yet.

Adal

What?

Erin

We've been in here 38 some odd years. Yeah. Something like that. You haven't even fallen in love with me not even once. Like how do you not? 38 years is so long. You have to be endeared to a person. You should at least be trauma bonded to me by now. You know what I mean?

Adal

Yeah.

Erin

You didn't even fall in love not even once.

Adal

You're... Don't.

Erin

Here's the thing.

Adal

You're 5'11 and I can't date tall women.

Erin

I'm 5'8.

Adal

You're like 6'1. You give 5'11.

Erin

You're like 6 inches taller than me. You're famously taller than me.

Adal

I can't date tall women. Listen, are you stunning? Yes. Are you everything I want in a partner? Yes. Are you matching to be wit for wit, tit for tat, thought for thought? Yes.

Erin

I spy with my little eye a liar.

Adal

If you were just three inches shorter, we would be soulmates.

01:02:49

Erin

Liar says what?

Adal

What?

Erin

I never fucking fuck you. Fucking hate you. I'm grateful you're not JPC, and I think about that every day. I'm grateful you're not JPC. That's what sort of links me back to gratitude and reality.

Adal

Could have been here with JPC. If I was here with JPC, I feel like his mind would have absorbed me 36 years ago.

Erin

This would have turned into like a Mad Max situation somehow.

Adal

It would have turned into an FX's Legion.

Erin

Yes.

Adal

It would have been an FX Legion situation.

Erin

Yeah. Wait, who? Is that JPC?

Adal

Is that JP? Wait. You guys can see me? Oh no.

Erin

How long have you been here?

JPC

Just got here.

Erin

No, you have not been here the 38 years.

JPC

You have cobwebs on you. Oh! These? Yes, cobwebs from spiders. Don't get too close and don't smell. These are cobwebs from spiders. It's cum. A cum on my titties!

Erin

See?

Adal

That's Nathan Lane. Cobwebs from spiders.

01:03:53

Erin

Um, her name is Maul.

JPC

Maul. Like shopping Maul. Dark Maul.

???

Well, here is a voicemail theme and then a voicemail. Hit it Casey!

???

Leave a voicemail at the beat. Hey Riddle Riddle.

Adal

That was fun. That was like city pop.

Erin

That was amazing.

JPC

Yeah, that one I think is from Davey Paul and Davey says they're releasing an album, a future album this year. So, you know, check out Davey wherever you might check. They didn't include where to check it out or what the album was called, but I like a challenge. Good luck.

01:04:55

???

I'll find you.

JPC

Casey, we've got a voicemail.

???

Hi Erin, Adal, and JPC. My name is Taylor and I'm at a point, I'm in my mid-twenties, where I'm working in school and just have a lot on my plate. And I love, love what I'm doing, but I'm just exhausted all of the time. I feel like as creatives, you can probably relate. So how do you keep at it instead of burning out? I love all the content that you guys make. Bye.

Erin

Taylor. Okay, first of all, feeling for you.

???

Taylor, I want to scoop you up. I want to buy you some ice cream. Taylor, you're so sweet.

Erin

Um, I don't know if I have good advice. I'm burnt out all the time and I'm scared all the time.

Adal

Yeah, same.

Erin

I think that's like it. I think doing it scared is a lot of it.

Adal

Oh god, I love doing it scared. I think realizing everyone's going through something.

Erin

Yeah. I think that, well, I've said this before, but the mantra I do before I have to do anything creative or like a podcast or improv show or anything like that is I just go, all I have to do is breathe and enjoy the people that I'm around. And that usually is enough to get me to at least go.

01:06:04

???

Yeah.

Erin

But yeah, I think also, yeah, knowing that it's part of it and folding it in is, I think, half the battle.

Adal

Absolutely. Something I've tried that works sometimes is like taking a break from stressing or from doing whatever is stressing me out and consuming something maybe I normally wouldn't consume. Hemlock. Hemlock.

Erin

Meth.

Adal

Meth.

Erin

Black licorice.

JPC

Just taking a break from the hectic everyday hustle and bustle of life, smoking meth. Try it out.

Adal

Who knows what you'll end up next.

JPC

Yeah, I would say, I don't know if you said in the voicemail if you do have a child, but I would say definitely have a child. Because then, nothing's insurmountable. Everything is kind of like easy mode compared to that. You stop thinking about your problem.

???

Exactly.

JPC

You got a new problem. It's a constant riddle. You'll approach anything, things that you didn't like doing before, you'll approach it with a new vim and vicar being like, okay, let's do it.

01:07:07

Erin

Also, something I would do in my 20s that I think I regret doing now is I would like, but I would sort of like hover above rock bottom. Like I would just be like, just I would make like white knuckle keeping it together.

JPC

You Tom Cruise, Mission Impossible, right over the floor.

Erin

And I wish I had just gotten, like, when you get to that point where you're doing, like, 18-hour days and you're tired and you have a cold and you have homework and stuff like that, maybe just, like, let yourself cry for an hour. Trip the laser. Yeah, just go, you know what? I'm at a rock-bottom point. Because if you stay at, like, you just need that kind of, like, release or, like, ask for help or whatever. Because I would just be like, nope, I got this. If you need to... Throw up down my shirt.

JPC

Ask for help getting a release. Definitely do it. You know what I'm saying? Because you can release yourself, but it's always a little better if you can get a friend to help you out.

Adal

The circle jerk of life.

Erin

Anything you'd like to plug or promote or talk about?

Adal

Mostly the line coming next August, but also check out our tour going on this year. We're very excited. We're playing a lot of cities. You can go to HeyRiddleRiddle.com slash tour?

01:08:18

JPC

Yeah, it's slash live. And I think, so coming up at the end of this month, we have Portland, which is almost sold out. And it might be sold out by the time this comes out. So a jump on those Portland tickets. Seattle, which is also very close to selling out.

???

There's a possibility we had a second show in Seattle. We don't know.

JPC

We don't know. We don't know. And this is Portland, Oregon.

Adal

This is Portland, Oregon. Yeah. We go to Portland, Maine and we're flying our asses to Seattle for the next night.

JPC

I've heard they're making moves.

Erin

I'm so excited for the Portland and Seattle shows. I've never been to either place and I'm genuinely thrilled.

JPC

And then LA on August 1st. And the LA show is live streamed. So I think we still have some tickets available for in-person, but you can definitely, if you're anywhere else in the world, you can get live stream tickets to that show. And that's the only live stream one that we're doing this whole tour.

Adal

And we should say for Portland and Seattle, we will have our fourth host, Jana Varney.

JPC

And in LA, unfortunately, we don't know anyone. So it's going to be we're not going to be able to get a guest because we just don't know who it is going to be. And we'll have a guest.

Erin

Zorp is going to be at that Portland live show. I think it's going to be his first ever live show.

JPC

Zorp coming to LA?

Erin

Yeah, Zorp lives in LA.

01:09:18

JPC

Are they gonna go to the show? If you want to talk to me, we can talk in LA after the show.

Erin

He wants to go so bad and he's getting roasted for this.

Adal

Does Zorp improvise?

Erin

Yes.

Adal

Maybe we do a Harold with him to end the show?

Erin

First of all, he got comedy trained in New York, so who knows how good of a Harold he is. A mod, I'm sorry, a mod. He's very funny. Maybe he can sell riddles on a live show with us one day. He'd be very good at it.

Adal

Yeah, we'll see if he's good at it. Erin, anything to plug or promote?

Erin

I would say check out our Patreon, patreon.com. Patreon.com slash dot gov. Hey Riddle Riddle. We have a lot of great fun improv stuff happening over there. And I love it. I love our Patreon episodes. JBC, anything, a review to read or something to plug?

01:10:26

JPC

Hey, this is JPC cutting in from the future, which is actually my present, but the past for when you're hearing this. Future from when we recorded the episode that you heard. It doesn't matter. I have a tour update for everybody. Our first three shows were awesome. We went to Chicago and the Twin Cities. Those shows, we did get audio recordings from them, but I know some people don't like live shows, so you don't have to worry. They're not going to be coming on the main feed. We will probably be putting them up on the Patreon later this year. Secondly, we sold out our Nashville show, so we have added a second show. It's just gonna be a late night show that same night. So that's Tuesday, October 7th. That's gonna be a 9 p.m. show, still at Third Coast Comedy. You can get tickets to that at heyriddleriddle.com slash live. Also, we are doing tour limited time specific merch for every show that we do this tour. So if you want to get the tour merch for Chicago or the Twin Cities shows, these are Well, they're inside jokes. You'll get them when the episodes come out or if you were actually there. So very limited use case for these. I don't know why I'm not selling you on the merch, but you can find them in our merch store, heyriddleriddle.dashery.com or by clicking the link in the episode description. We also have our tour poster that we've been selling at live shows. We have turned that into a shirt. So it's like a tour style shirt. It's got the poster on the front and then all the cities that we're seeing on the backside. So that's awesome. And that's out there now. So I hope you pick that up. Okay, back to you, JPC and Adal and Erin from the past.

01:11:54

Erin

JPC, anything, a review to read or something to plug?

???

No. Okay. Jupiter. Bye, everybody.

???

Created by Adal Rifai. Starring Erin Keif and John Patrick Coan.

JPC

Casey Toney did the editing and Marty Parrott did the music. Hey there bounce houses and hot dogs. If you like that, you're going to love this week's Patreon. It's improv from a block party. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com slash hey riddle riddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your seven day free trial with a review crew for $8 a month. Plus get those ad free episodes. See you there.

Erin

That was a hate gum podcast.