Which Riddle Riddle?

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1, 2, 3, 4, Hey Riddle Riddle. Adal G.B.C., look. My garden. The riddles are coming in so nicely.

Wow, okay. Are those quizzicals?

Yeah, they're really beautiful, aren't they?

I never knew you had such a, um, riddle thumb.

I know. I mean, I don't know. I tried. I planted them. But I don't know what to do. Are they poisonous, right?

Most, yes. Most riddles are poisonous. Erin, what are you... Oh, JBC.

You started eating that so fast.

I wanted to get to the dirt underneath. Erin, are you watering them with answers?

Yeah, and a good attitude because, you know, we run out of riddles on the show. There's really only like 100 riddles in the world. Yeah. So I thought, why not grow them?

From farm to brain, or is that?

That's something.

Yeah, that's something. That tracks. Well, Erin, it's fantastic that you're actually growing organic riddles, because one, we're running out of riddles, and two, we actually have a very special guest today.

Oh yeah. Probably kind of the perfect person to try out some organic riddles on.

Yeah. Who is it? Tell me. Well, Erin, I don't know if you've ever seen shows like Veep or Arrested Development or if you are familiar with the Toy Story franchise.

Okay, some of my favorite things on the planet. What's this gonna be?

I don't know if you're familiar with the brand new HeadGum podcast that just came out today, which I don't know how you could be because it just came out today. Extraordinarians? Oh, yeah. Did I get that right? Extraordinarians? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Oh, that's why Tony Hale's here. Okay, perfect. Yeah, that's why Tony Hale's here.

Oh, you know Tony. Okay.

Oh, he's sitting at your table. He's sitting at your kitchen table? Okay, perfect. Incredible.

And I forgot that you two have actually already met. So, great. So that's, yeah, so that's a surprise. Yeah, okay, never mind.

I love that Extraordinarians was the thing that you got. That's the best.

Oh yeah, Tony Hale. Oh yeah, of course. Tony Hale. Tony, thank you so much for doing this.

Oh, thank you for having me. I like to see everybody's Zoom background. You really get a taste of the personalities.

And I will say today, we are shining through in our personalities. JPC is sort of a horrible, dark boy. Adal looks like he's in a cabin that smells like pine. And I look like I'm in a bunker. Yeah.

But it does look like a podcast bunker.

Oh, it does, yeah. Thank you. Actually, you have like a grandma's, like, kitchen, um, dishcloth fabric behind you.

It's funny because if— I have my, my, like, curtains open a little bit because I have my dog right down here. Oh wait, sorry, I meant Erin.

Oh yeah. I was talking to the wrong one. My bad. JPC, sorry, I got the name screwed. You just look like you're in the black hole.

With like subtle little white lines in it as well. Tony, first of all, welcome to the Headcumb family. We're so excited to have you.

Thank you. Is there any kind of initiation I need to know about?

We've been here for seven years, so we know our way around the house.

Wow, this is like a White Lotus scenario.

Jake and Amir make us sort of exchange our blood. It's a whole thing.

It's nice. I thought maybe just exchange gum or something, but blood, wow.

You can put the blood in whatever you want. I guess if you want to pass it with gum, A, it's weirder, but you know what? We don't judge. That's another thing we don't judge.

Oh, that's nice. That's the most important thing.

How's it been stepping into the podcast world? How does it feel?

Good. Good. I'm doing it with my friends, Kristen Schaal, I'm sure you guys know, Matt Oberg, and it's really fun. We interview extraordinary people doing extraordinary things that we would never do. And one of, like, this one guy was slack-lined between two hot air balloons, and we just were kind of fascinated with that. And another girl won the national pun competition, another one won the most somersaults on a trampoline, all this kind of stuff. So we're just kind of fascinated and it's really fun. I mean, like you guys, it's like you have a chance to get together with your buddies and shoot the shit, which is really fun.

That's the secret sauce.

That hot air balloon thing is the craziest thing I've ever heard.

It really, it's one of those, uh, what's that famous, he climbed mountains, it was a documentary, I'm just blanking. Not alone, but, um. Oh, a lot.

Moses? No.

It's Moses.

Edmund Hillary? But it was, it was the guy that like, free rock climbed.

Oh, pre-solo guys.

Pre-solo, yes, yes, yes. And that there's a part of the brain that's not there, you know, like that fear section is taken out. And I think this guy had a little bit of that. And I was just, I was like, how do you, I can't even get on a ladder without thinking about death. And he's just, I think he even responded, oh, that's sad. But it's fascinating.

Yeah, I guess that is sad. I mean, if you take it in a microcosm, it's like, yeah, for sure.

I mean he's just like the rush that they get and sometimes he doesn't even use like a safety harness. He's just like slacklining between these you know mountainous areas and without any kind of safety. I mean sometimes he is and then sometimes he's not and you're like what? Like you're just asking. I don't know it's fascinating. It's also those people that kind of like jump off buildings you know and they just yeah it's just wild to me.

Should we try it?

Yeah, so that means we should do it. Has doing the podcast made you in any way want to do any of those things? No. Tony, what's your secret talent?

I think mine are just a little more sedate.

I like making rope bowls.

But over the, over the pandemic, I got into making rope bowls and you, uh, it's something, it's kind of like, well, it's not like pottery, but you kind of, as you're, you sew these, this rope together and you mold it into a bowl and then I paint them. And it's really meditative, much like the guy who walks on a slack line, it's very meditative for him, but it's really peaceful. And that's, and I like, I like my dogs and you know, I have a daughter in college because I, it's like real simple stuff. I will say, I'm not like an adrenaline junkie whatsoever. Like I don't like roller coasters, never have. There's nothing natural about them. I just, that kind of stuff I just don't like.

I thought they came from the earth. Did they not grow organically?

They did. The secret of six flags.

Yeah. You dig deep enough and you find ancient civilizations' roller coasters that were there before.

Yeah, Six Flags was excavated.

That's horrible.

Erin, there are dinosaur bones that got wet, I want to say, and now we just slide on them?

That makes sense.

Golly, today's the day we find all this out. The Rope Bowls thing, were you familiar with the concept of Rope Bowls before you started doing them? Or what got you into it?

Because that feels like such a big... Oh, I'm looking for a picture to show you.

Just you wait.

This year I want to say the Rope Bowl is Clemson and Alabama.

That's funny. Well, I will make... I have made Rope Bowls for football teams. Not teams, but people that are fans of certain footballs. Okay, so these are some Rope Bowls I made. Okay.

Oh my gosh, those are beautiful.

Aren't they nice? That's incredible. How do I buy one of these? I will make you one.

When money's involved, it's like... The composition of that photo is fantastic. That looks like I'm looking at a West Elm catalog. It spent me a little time to figure out that shot.

It's like Tony Hale is like, I don't really have any talents, and then he shows the perfectly framed picture.

That's such a COVID thing though, it's like sourdough bread making into rope bowl is a straight line.

I was on a show in, I did the show in Italy for six months and I was, you know, they all kind of went out. I was kind of the old guy that just liked to stay at home. Anyways, it wasn't boring. But I, so for cast gifts, I made all these rope bowls because I had so much time. Isn't that fun? One last thing. Also do some Christmas ornaments.

What the fuck?

This sucks. I feel awful about myself.

So this is my adrenaline. Wow, that's great. Well, rope bowls aside, on this podcast, I guess kind of our rope bowls... Oh no, I'd like to keep talking about this if you don't mind.

Rope bowls back on the table.

But okay, so the rope bowls, they are... You said they're painted, but they're still rope, right? So you can't put like... Cereal?

This is for like keys and wall, and this is like a catch-all versus... Yeah.

Like a basket. Oh, yeah. Good, good. Well, also like I've given them before like on gigs and stuff and they're like, oh, it's like a hat. And I'm like, it's not a hat. I don't know why you keep saying hat. But yeah, it's like, it's a catch-all. You don't even have to put anything in it. No. Just like, just a decorative situation.

But you can't put liquid in it.

But don't eat cereal out of those bowls.

Now you could if you wanted to like make it and then pour something in it to cement the inside if you wanted to. Yeah. Maybe that's my next venture. Yeah.

Now, Tony, I'm very serious about, I need to get my hands on one of these ropes. Well, let me just find out your favorite color.

Well, our rope bowls on the show is riddles and we ask every guest on the show, what is your relationship with riddles, puzzles, lateral thinking problems, escape rooms, we've extended it out to these things.

Let me think. I don't know if anybody relates to this. I'm all in, and I think it's such a fun idea. Halfway through, I'm like, ugh, I want to bolt. You know, it's like- One of us.

One of us.

An escape room is like, oh, this is so fun, let's go. And then halfway through, I'm just like, this is chaos. I'm asking for more chaos in my life. They've made this too hard. I don't know what any of these numbers mean. You know, and those people that really like get a kick out of it. I'm just like, this is, just give me the answer. Just open the window, open the door. I want to get out, you know, and then riddles. It's some, it's fun. Now, now a little bit of a, I think if I'm doing it by myself, I don't like it, but if there's like a, like you guys, like if it's like a team and it's like, Oh, what about this? What about this? But then when you hit that wall and you're like, okay, why? Why, why, why, why? It's also that thing of like, I like puzzles, but I like colored puzzles. I don't want like all one color where it's just maddening and I'm just like, why am I doing this to myself? I want like the fun experience of like, oh yeah, this is a bunny. Let me find the color of the bunny. And then that's the other piece. You know, like it's some fun to it.

There's more dopamine in that.

Yeah, exactly. Thank you. There are a lot of riddles. We've been going for seven years, somewhere around there. Wow, congratulations, guys.

Thank you so much. That's amazing. The seven-year itch. What does that mean? I want a divorce.

We all pack our bindles and are out of here.

Ride the rails. That's so funny because today is my wife and I's seven year anniversary as well.

Whoa! That's crazy. Was this podcast like discovered on your honeymoon?

Yeah, kind of.

It's funny, there were so many things in my life that started around the same time. Like I started dating my wife, I got a dog, and this podcast started all in the same year. So it's so easy to remember dog, seven years old, wife, seven years old, podcast, We've been going for about seven years and a lot of the answers to riddles

When you hear it, you go like, ah. It's fun. It's obvious at the end. Yeah, but a lot of lateral thinking problems are like, it's usually shadow, egg, cloud, stuff like that. And a lot of them, there's information missing. So when you hear the answer, you're like, oh, I wasn't thinking along those lines. I'm missing a huge chunk of help here. So just know that riddles might be frustrating.

Has it helped you in your New York Times Games app? Doing this podcast?

We did for many years before Connections came out. There's a British game show called Only Connect that has very similar concepts to it. And people have been submitting those types of like puzzles for years. So by the time Connections came out, I was like, Oh, okay. I get it.

Elementary school. Yeah. Wait, so one more question. How has this podcast affected your everyday lives like in problem solving? And what tools have you learned here? I will say when I see a riddle in real life,

What are the first two things you do when you hear that riddle that you would suggest to somebody else? It's like the same as like Jeopardy questions. You like look at the structure of the question. You're like, oh, how are they trying to trick me? Like what are they trying to get at?

Yeah, Connection does that too on New York Times.

Yeah, yeah.

I will say I went last year to London and there's a, I guess a popular game show there called Crystal Maze and they have like a Crystal Maze experience. And it's all these different challenges and there's dexterity and skill games and all this stuff. And one of the rooms was all riddles. And I was like, oh my God. And every riddle in the room was one we'd done on the show. Oh, wow.

You looked like a genius.

We were with a group of people who work together, and this was a team-building exercise. So these eight people who were in our group are like, this guy is Mensa-level brilliant. And I'm like, snake, just rattling off stuff. And they're like, This is a beautiful mind. And afterwards they're like, how'd you do that? And I go, this is going to sound fake, but I do a riddle podcast.

I will say my experience with it is I read a lot and a lot of times and I read a lot of fantasy or sci-fi. It's wonderful. But when I read fantasy or sci-fi, a lot of times there will be, for whatever reason, riddles will come up in the context of this novel. And I almost always know it because there are no new riddles. So the author is just changing some words and borrowing an old riddle as a concept. But it makes me feel so much smarter than the characters who are like, okay, we have to figure out what this riddle is. And I was like, nah, man, I got it.

I did this show called The Mysterious Benedict Society, and there was a lot of riddles in that. And it was, I mean, it really, the kids were like generated by it. It was like, oh, rather than kind of paralyzed. And I think like, I can get paralyzed. I can be like, rather than being like, oh, this is cool. Let's see what this is.

It's just so funny that some days you wake up and you literally can't do them. And some days you wake up and they all seem easy. It truly just is like, However much water you drank that day depends on if these riddles are going to come natural or not.

Adal, I don't want to step on your toes, but if we want to do some Only Connect riddles, I do have a few Only Connect that we could kind of use as warm-ups to get us in.

Let's do it.

You want to do it?

Yeah.

Okay.

Guys, I'm generated. I'm not paralyzed. This is a new one for me.

So again, I'm gonna give you four words, or it's not always a word, but it's like a word or a short phrase or whatever, and then you have to tell me what the connection between all four of those things is. Okay, great. Okay, so here's your first one. Macy Black, that's one, Snake is one, and Macy Black is one. The stripes, Red Floyd.

Now these are all, it should be Pink Floyd, it should be White Stripes, it should be Macy Gray, and White Snake? Uh-huh. These are all bands with a color scheme slightly askew?

It is the color scheme slightly askew, and you are so correct with all that, Adal, but it's, it's, it's, the answer is slightly different than that.

Oh, they all need white added to them.

Yes.

God damn, you guys are really mean. Because red was like good.

We normally don't get them that fast. That was crazy, Adal.

And Tony, I guess you crush it in the comedy and acting game and the rope bowl game and the dog game.

Do I?

Can't have everything. But I can solve a riddle.

Damn, that was impressive.

That was so fast.

Guy who's been doing it for seven years is like cocky about it.

I do want to see a scene. Erin, Tony, and JPC, the three of you are starting a band. And first things first, you're trying to come up with a name. Okay.

No, I think that one's already taken. Let me, hold on.

The Beatles? You're sure?

That's already taken, because I just gave it.

No, I mean, I think that's already... Okay, this is just brainstorming. Let's not get so bogged down on one name. Let's just, like, try to generate, like, other band names.

Okay, great. Okay. Beach Boys, Rolling Stones... Okay.

It could be just, like, churches. You know how churches nowadays are just one word? Like, Haven, Rock.

Yeah. Yes.

Yes.

Okay, I'm writing these down, but maybe we're missing like the forest for the trees like We're trying to do like new unique band names Hmm, okay

Maybe the first letter of each of our names. R-E-N.

There you go. That worked, right? That's something.

By the way, it didn't just work. It did work for several decades.

Yeah, that's a band.

Oh, it's already a band name.

I keep saying that. T-H-J. That's too close to T-H-C. Yeah.

Well, is it? But, I mean, yeah.

I just said H, but that's the podcast name.

I meant to say... Let's see, let's see, let's see, let's see. T-E-J. What about Maroon 5?

By the way, Jet. Jet, guys. J-P-C-D-T.

Yeah, we could do Jet. Jet and I, yes, that is a band name. So it is already a band name.

And a magazine.

Scene.

Alright, here's your next one. Filling a line in any direction. So that's your first one. Filling a line in any direction. Clearing four lines at once. Having all five dice be the same and having one card left.

It's like when you say the name of the game.

Yahtzee, poker, blackjack, connect four.

Erin, you're correct, but do you know what the four games are?

No.

I'm still trying to understand the question.

Filling a line in any direction. Bingo. Bingo. Clearing four lines at once.

the show.

That's Yahtzee. And then having one card left.

Uno.

That's how I got that one. But Tony, I didn't know the first three. It made no sense to me.

First of all, I just think it's so sweet that you guys are really trying to not make me feel so bad. Because I hear the question and I'm still processing the first line of what you're asking.

All right. I'm going to go slower. Okay. So the first one.

I don't know if that's going to help, but go ahead. It might not.

It'll help me. Copper wire.

Okay.

Second one. Silver paste.

Okay.

Third one, Leonard Bernstein. Oh, God. Fourth one, a train manager. Whoa. Okay. Copper wire, silver paste.

Is everybody else envisioning these or are they just thinking of the, is everybody picturing it? I'm mostly panicking.

I'm doing yackety sacks in my head.

I think I might know, but I want to give, let's give people.

I'm mostly refraining from yelling. These are all characters from Metal Gear Solid, I guess.

Riddle Riddle

What's the musical? What's the musical with the train? Train, train, train with the trolley.

Is that Leonard Bernstein? These are conductors, electrical conductors, orchestral conductors, and train conductors. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, Bradley Cooper played Leonard Bernstein?

Yeah, in that movie.

Okay, didn't see it. Here's the next one. Is that the answer? The answer was Bradley Cooper. Your next one is Bullwhip.

Wait, what was the answer to that one?

Oh, conductors. They were all different types of conductors. Copper wire.

Copper wire is a conductor. Train manager is a conductor.

Guys, I need that rope bowl, please. Let's ease up on Tony.

You still haven't told me your favorite color. Green. Which type of green, please?

Hey, Tony, excuse me. Adal, what's going on? That felt like, I know you, that felt like a panic. Call out.

It is green. It is green. Honestly, Kermit green is probably my favorite color. Okay. So a shamrock. Yes.

Kelly green. Yes. Kelly green.

Beautiful.

Adal's has always just seen K green and it's like Kermit green.

Yes. Kermit green.

That's got to be Kermit green.

Because Kelly green is John Travolta's wife, right? Yes.

Tony, can I ask you a question?

Anything to distract from these riddles.

Do you have a favorite Muppet?

Oh damn, I love this question so much. I collected Muppets when I was a kid, and Beaker was my favorite. Whoa. And actually, side note, I did this cartoon called Archibald's Next Big Thing that came from a children's book I did years and years ago. One of the best jobs I've ever done. And I was attracted to Archibald because he looked like Beaker. And my favorite color is yellow, and so Archibald was yellow, so he was like a yellow beaker.

Oh my God.

And I also really loved Fozzie. Of course. And Scooter.

Oh, Scooter.

Scooter's underrated.

Classic.

Scooter is underrated. I think I'm a Sweetums guy, but Beaker's probably in my top five. Why am I blanking on Sweetums? He's the big guy. He's like a full size. He's like a guy in a huge costume.

Like, hey, wait for me.

Gosh, I don't remember him at all. He's kind of like a... Was he in the 80s or was he a later Muppet?

Early Muppet. He was like in the Muppet movie. He's like the size of a human and he's always running after you.

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

I also like the shrimp guy.

Who's the shrimp guy?

Oh, Pepe the Prawn.

Pepe the Prawn.

Oh, go change, okay? Yeah, he's the best.

And the chef's no one to match the chef. We love the sweetest chef on the show.

We do. We're a big sweetest chef.

Thanks for watching.

We get real on this show. What are you doing up there, Tony? Exactly.

Have you been on Sesame Street?

Rope Bowls in my bunker. I have never been on a Sesame Street, but I... on a Sesame Street. I've never been on a Sesame Street, but I would love to.

Every city has one.

Yeah. I think you would do very well acting with a puppet.

Oh, I'd love it. I mean, doing... My friend did a... Jack McBrayer did a kid's show for a little bit, and I guested on his show. And it's just so simple and sweet and it's just so fun.

Well I want you to have a scene with Beaker before you die.

Okay I do want to see a scene.

You two solve mysteries maybe?

I do want to see a scene. Tony would you would you like to play Beaker or would you like to talk would you like to act with Beaker? He doesn't say much so I'll be Beaker. So Tony, you're going to be your version of Beaker, so this is sort of like you were cast as Beaker, so this is Tony Hale as Beaker. Which is pretty much Buster Bliss. Wait a minute!

Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god.

So you're Beaker, and Erin, your favorite Muppet is Miss Piggy?

Well, I might say my favorite Muppet is Gonzo, but I'll play whomever.

Oh, Gonzo. I want you to play Gonzo. What a nose. What a nose. What a nose.

I actually don't think, I don't feel confident in my Gonzo impression, so I can be Miss Piggy, or I can be a human, whatever you need me to be.

I would like you to be your version of Miss Piggy. And this is sort of like, so this is like a B movie. This is like a, just some, some college kids kind of putting together their version of the Muppets, I guess. So sort of an off kilter, just left of center version of the Muppets with you as Miss Piggy and Tony as speaker. Beaker, we gotta bury the body.

Grab the shovel, Beaker. Beaker. Slap, slap. You look at me. We killed him together. Kermit's lifeless body's underneath. Beaker. He was our leader.

He drew too much attention.

Oh wait, wait, here comes Fuzzy.

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What was that, Beaker?

Super sexy.

Oh, Beaker.

Hey, what's going on here?

Oh, it's my friends.

Fuzzy, Miss Piggy, and... Oh, shit, don't... Don't remind me. No, it's on the tip of my tongue. Bingo?

That's fine.

The count is pretty sexy. I actually did have this conversation recently about who the hottest Muppet is and someone said that guy who throws the fish and I just about died.

What's that guy's name? Lou... Lou Zealand?

Yeah, Lou Zealand.

Lou Zealand, yeah.

I don't know if I agree with that.

Oh, actually, the Swedish chef threw a lot of fish, didn't he, also?

I guess they're throwing a lot of fish in that show.

They called me a bitchy mime because I was never allowed to speak. So I could just stand behind Selena and just make weird noises. My non-verbal got pretty good.

Truly one of the best performances of all time. It comes from so much pain. Unbelievable, and almost true to life note.

There is something about a show like Veep where they're like, hey, so the whole vibe is that we're going to be like making fun of you as characters, but we're actually just going to be making fun of what you look like physically, which is the real human being is you.

Timothy Simons got it bad. Like he played Jonah. They called him like, what was it, Plato on a flagpole?

You're not even your mom's favorite Jonah, Jonah. That's my favorite.

And there was one time like, the sad thing is wasn't even when it wasn't even scripted. So we would be in a scene and like, I remember Reed Scott turned to me, and he goes, hey, cow eyes. And I was like, sorry?

I feel like just in Chicago in general, like when I first came to Chicago for improv, I would absolutely stay out of Dan Bacadal's way and Dave Swayze, where I'm like, I don't want to be perceived by them. I can't imagine being on set with all those people and being like, What's

The blooper reel from Veep, I think it might have been season one or two when David Pesquasey is taught, they're at the family dinner and he just goes off and it's just magic. It's magic.

He's unbelievable.

Very fast.

Tony, I was so excited to get to tell you this last time I saw you, but my favorite scene in anything is Veep when Selena finds out she's going to be president and you get a nosebleed.

Yeah, I get a nosebleed.

Thank you for watching.

Tony, all this talk about behind the scenes in Veep is really actually fun and interesting, but we're going to take a break and get back to Riddles, which I think is depressing and hard and sad. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back with more Riddles. What's going on, Erin? Did you eat snails again?

Uh, yes, but that's not why I'm upset. I'm upset because I'm just thinking about how like fast food is so unhealthy and just like thawed out patties dipped in grease and you just- Yeah. My body never feels like actually satiated after eating it, but I want like food fast in the week while I'm busy. Like I want to be able to just have like, I just want to have like great chef crafted meals. Oh, Erin- And a dioptician approved menu. Is that so hard?

First of all, and Erin, do not take this as a slight against you. If I see you trying to eat more snails, I'm going to start slapping them out of your hands, okay? Because you were eating snails the whole time you were talking.

That just makes me want them more.

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I couldn't get that one. She ate that snail before I could even come close to getting it.

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JPC, stop staring at me. Take a picture, it'll last longer. Right, Erin? Right, that's what they say?

Yeah, take a picture, it'll last longer.

Oh, hey guys, I'm behind you. You are staring at a picture of me. That's a picture of me that you're talking to. I'm behind you.

You look so sweet. Oh, wait, is this an aura frame?

It makes sense that it was named the best digital photo frame by Wirecutter and featured in 495 gift guides last year.

Yeah, AuraFrame makes the perfect gift. I gave one to my mom. I gave one to my sister. They're absolutely obsessed with it. It takes about two minutes to set up the frame using the Aura app. And my favorite thing is you can share photos or videos from any device and they will instantly appear on the frame wherever it is in the world. No memory card required.

Yeah, that's kind of why I got you guys the aura frame, because we would do a lot of, like, we would meet up in real life, and you guys would give me, like, coffee orders, and I'd be like, oh, no, it's JPC, like, from Friendship and, like, the podcast. Ooh, yeah, actually, a latte sounds great.

I would take a grande latte.

Yeah, so this is the big problem. It's like, I, like, this isn't even, like, we're all at home recording. This isn't, like, the context where you would order a coffee. It's like, I got you the frame with pictures of me, so you'd remember, like, that's your friend, like, a person you know. Like, that's pictures of us,

These photos look like real prints. They have meticulously calibrated high resolution displays. Unless you look really closely or see photos transition, you'll never know it's a screen. Oh look, there's me and my barista!

Here's me holding my cup of coffee that's like, I wanna say 5'9", maybe? 162? Okay, that is an exact description of that barista, but it's not of me. I'm a little taller, a little heavier than that. Okay, now I'm getting the confusion because it seems like you guys do a lot of barista pictures. Huh.

Mm-hmm.

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Oh, you wrote Abdul on my coffee. It's Adal.

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Hey Riddle Riddle

We're back and we're gonna be doing some, let's just, let's go into the, we had an appetizer, we had the Maz Stix, let's get into a full entree.

Did you say Maz Stix like mozzarella sticks? Uh, yeah. That's my childhood man, that's Applebee's. I love mozzarella sticks.

That should be an ad for Applebee's. That's my childhood.

They should use that. What is Applebee's was eaten first of all in the neighborhood?

Oh yeah, I thought you were about to say what is Applebee's like you've never heard of it. Well, this would have ended that podcast.

Now, Tony, I will say, where are you from in the country? Tallahassee, Florida. Jealous?

Yes. Here's the thing.

Tony, this works perfectly because I'll tell this story very quickly. Please. I went to Florida to visit a friend. His brother came to pick me up from the airport. Yeah. I've never met his brother before, so I get in the car, but his brother is one of the funniest people of all time, this guy named Joey Romain. Well, I'll be the judge of that. Thank you so much. He'll come on later. So his brother picks me up at the airport, never met this guy before. We get in the car, he's like, how was your flight? I'm like, good. He's like, yeah, Joey's excited to see you. I'm like, I'm excited to see Joey. He's like, I'm Justin. I'm like, I'm Adal, so nice to meet you. He's like, I heard about, I heard a lot about you. Yeah. And then at some point we're kind of sitting in the car and he goes, are you hungry at all? Or do you want some Wawa? And I'm like, Oh, this is Joey's brother. He's got to be also funny. So I go, Yeah, I want Wawa. Baby thirsty. Baby want Wawa. Oh no. And his brother goes, what? And I go, what? And he goes, do you want Wawa? And I go, yes, baby thirsty. Baby want Wawa.

Adal, I hate this.

And he goes, what are you doing? I go, what are you doing? And he goes, I'm asking if you want Wawa. And I go, I'm saying baby firstie.

This is a nightmare who's on first.

Cause I, cause Tony, I grew up in Illinois. Never heard of Wawa in my life.

Yeah. I don't even think we had a Wawa in Tallahassee. This was in St. Petersburg?

Florida is its own like strange microcosm.

I don't know if we need to say strange.

I think it's... Yeah, you're right. We shouldn't put that stigma on Florida.

It's a beautiful swamp. Yeah. Do you have Whataburger?

Oh, that's in Texas mostly, right?

Yeah, that's a real southern thing too. I do think that a lot of- But was something missing in this fast food breakfast?

It would not be surprising if there was Whataburgers in Florida because people move to Florida from the places they're from and then they bring with them their fast food chain and they say like, this now exists in Florida.

It's a great place. Florida's a great place. It gets a bad rap.

My wife is from Miami, and she'll tell people she's from Florida, and I'm like, you gotta stop telling people you're from Florida, because you're not. Like, you're from Miami, which is like way different than Florida.

Yeah, well I will say that is, if I looked at it, I think Miami is more Florida, and like Tallahassee is more Georgian.

And Tony, you said you were in Italy recently for six months.

What would you say is the number one difference between Florida and Italy? In Italy? Italy? Oh, man. The people just in Italy, they're so wonderful, but they just sound mad. There's a lot of like, are you mad? I told this story on a talk show once, but I remember the costume guy who was the wardrobe designer. It took place in the During the Black Plague, and so I had this like medieval kind of look, but I had this belt and I said, can you tighten this belt? And he goes, no, you have an odd shape. And I said, I'm sorry. He goes, what? You do, you do.

Cow-eyes all over again.

Yeah. Cow-eyes. But they're just, and like when I was, when I was like in hair and makeup, you know, they're speaking Italian, but it's just this like. And, but they're just like saying, would you have a breakfast? Like it's not, you know, it's not, but it sounds a little angry.

Very combative. It's one of the romance languages, I believe, but it sounds very combative.

That didn't sound very romantic to me.

Different people have different conceptions of romance. That sounds very romantic to me.

So you and your wife have a very aggressive language.

Yeah, exactly.

Dave Pasquese, I think, lives in Italy six months out of the year? That's crazy. Oh yeah, he also shot Da Vinci Code. Wasn't he in Da Vinci Code? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. Or Angels and Demons, I think. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is going to be a main, full-on riddle. What if the riddle is just my life?

What if I'm being punked and it's like, Tony Hale is the riddle, and it's just like, this is my life where all my bullies are coming in. It could be a nice direction for the show.

We've been doing it for seven years.

We gotta find some fertile ground somewhere.

What ring is square?

What ring is square?

Gosh, I immediately think of Lord of the Rings, but that's... Oh, oh, I think I know it. Yes.

I might know it too.

Oh. Oh. Then I think about an alarm system.

Wow.

Okay.

Yeah. That or a ring light or like a ring camera. What is it called?

Well, a ring light is called a ring light and a ring camera is called a ring camera.

Then I was thinking of ring camera.

Okay. Got it.

Could it be a boxing ring?

It is a boxing ring. That makes sense. Golly, you guys are damn good.

I'd like to see a scene. JPC, you're a boxer in a movie and Tony, you're like his, what's the guy who like pipes him up?

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

His coach. His coach before the big fight.

Okay. Alright, you got this, man. Come on. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, listen. You got beat up bad, dude. You got beat up bad. But this time... Yeah.

Who was that guy?

That's your opponent, man. That's the reason you're here. That's the reason we're about to win two million dollars and you're about to screw us up.

Was he supposed to hit me while I was just like peeing before the match?

What the living hell, man? No, he's supposed to... He's supposed to hit you in the square ring. Yeah. Is what he's supposed to do. That's what I thought was gonna happen today, but he beat the shit out of me I know cuz all you kept was asking was why is this called a ring and it's a square? You got to focus on the fight, man.

But I didn't know that we were in the middle of the fight I thought we were just two guys hanging out. Does he really hate you like in real life?

We had this whole, we had this entire conversation. You know that big famous guy Jake or whatever his name is? Jake Ball or what's his name? Jake Ball. He's out of his mind, you know? RIDDLE RIDDLE RIDDLE RIDDLE RIDDLE RIDDLE

Okay, I'm just... My thing I think maybe is that I'm so confused when it's a fight and when it's a talk. Because I do remember going on Good Morning America and beating the shit out of that little guy.

Good morning America, we are here... Not for you, motherfucker!

Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!

Scene, scene. Scene. I'm in the back going, show, show, show, show!

Nobody, nobody, nobody swing. Tony, how pissed off would you be If at some point you realize the three of us are looking at a shared document where all the answers are... That would be so mean.

Oh wow.

I actually wouldn't be that pissed off about it. I'd be jealous. Well, here's the next riddle and there is no shared doc. It's just, um, old and ancient. It runs for centuries, but never moves. It has a mighty roar, but no lungs or throat. What is it? Oh, I went to the wall of China, but then it didn't add up towards the end. Yeah.

A roller coaster. Old and ancient.

Old and ancient. It runs for centuries but never moves. It has a mighty roar but no lungs or throat.

What is it? I was thinking like an old Roman aqueduct or like a cistern and the roar would be like the roar of the water moving through it.

By the way, this seven years of doing this is really coming clear, guys. You're so good at this.

Is it a waterfall?

It's a waterfall. Oh my gosh. Okay. It's so obvious and that's so good you got that. I gotta tell you.

Maybe it's because we really are, like, blown away that you agreed to be on our show and we're panic-getting these, but in every other episode, we are flailing. Like, we have never done this well ever, ever, ever.

Listen, I want you guys to completely receive your gifting, because you are gifted at this, and I need you to accept it and say, thank you, Tony, we are good at this.

Thank you, Tony, we are good at this.

And also, for context, Tony does a show where he talks to, like, really interesting, accomplished people, and he's giving us compliments. So it does track that, like, it's got there's got to be some sincerity in here he has a baseline to compare it with yeah and also i don't i feel inferior to those people

Tony, here's the next riddle. Let me see here, I'm squinting a little bit.

This snake can give you a burn, and when coiled up it's the opposite of a plate.

This snake can give you a burn. Oh, it's on top of a stove? It's opposite of a plate. You could also smoke it.

He's making this up.

I just got what you were trying to do, Adal, and I was like so fucking confused.

I still don't have it. I still don't get what you're trying to do.

He's trying to create a riddle that only you would get based on an interest or hobby you may have.

Oh, damn it. It's a rope bowl. Holy hell. Tony, you got one. Oh, you are just, that's very kind of you. That's very kind of you. But can we just acknowledge that those, they too got it before me also. Tony, I gotta get my rope bowl, please. Oh, you're getting it. But like, even that, they got before me.

Oh, brother. That's sad.

Adal is panicking so much. He sees the rope bowl Tony's making being thrown into the trash being like, fuck that really mean guy.

Not at all. Not at all.

I got that Kelly Green rope bowl in vision.

I mean, I will say Kelly Green Rope Bowl is a good band name. Yeah, it is.

Okay. Kelly Green Rope Bowl.

It's a hit. It's a hit. All right, Adal.

Adal is about to be Googling, how do I get milk out of a rope bowl so fast?

Oh, yeah. Kelly Green Rope Bowl has got to be a really good name.

Now, if you eat your cereal out of it, I'm going to be pissed.

Hey Tony, the bowl got ruined, but not cause of me. Yeah, yeah bitch, I'll tell you why.

It's made out of rope-a.

Hey Tony, I love the hat that you made me, but it doesn't hold milk, is that?

Yeah bitch, I'll tell you why. Yeah bitch.

If you ever open a store much like, what's his name, open like a camera shop, Jason Lee opened a camera shop, Tony, you gotta open up Yeah Bitch Rope Bowls.

Oh yeah. You would have my business.

Wait, Jason Lee opened up a what store? He opened up like a camera store.

Really?

In Arizona or something? But it's like, Jason Lee's cameras, like he's just like, I love photography, I love cameras, and he just opened up a camera store. Wait, does he work there? He doesn't work there. I mean, he has other employees. It's sort of like Hugh Jackman's coffee shop in New York where it's like, he might be there.

Hugh Jackman has a coffee shop in New York?

Erin, wake up. Billy Corgan has a tea shop in the suburbs.

And then Tony Hale's at your local farmer's market. Hey bitch, have some radishes.

Tony, I would, the people of Los Angeles.

I think Buster Bluth just called me a bitch when I was shopping for eggs. Yeah, Buster would go, hey bitch.

Tony Hale's Hey Bitch Rope Bowls. Oh my God. That should be Applebee's new slogan.

Yeah, Adal, that should be Applebee's new slogan for sure.

That was amazing. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, this one's just for Tony. This is a real one. I'm not making this up. This is just for Tony. The spoon feeding that's happening is really fantastic. An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 BC but knew it was a fake. How did they know? An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 B.C. but knew it was a fake coin. How did they know?

Is it something that coins didn't exist before Christ? Wait.

Yeah, Jesus Christ invented money.

I do want to see a scene. Wait, 81 B.C. Okay, wait.

81 B.C. I do want to take a seat. Tony, you're Jesus. Follower, yes. Erin, JBC, and I, we're sort of your followers, and today's the day where you pitch us on the concept of money. Wait, what's the answer? You're Jesus, the rest of us are your followers, and today's the day where you came up with the bright idea of money, the concept of money, and you're pitching us on money. There he is. There he is. There he is.

There he is. Hi.

Hi. Hey.

Hey. Hey. Teacher. Teacher.

Hey guys. Sit down. Sit down. Sit down. I got some fish and some bread. Oh yes. First of all, thank you so much for being here today. Did you guys know how much I love you?

Oh my God. So much. Jesus, you love us.

We love you too, Jesus. I do love you very much. Just one fish and one bread. Well, there are 5,000 people. I noticed that you were down at the shop and you stole the apple. You know I'm not a huge fan of that.

Yeah.

So I'm going to, today, invent a little process called money. Money. And I need for you to take out some of your sackcloth.

Jesus! In front of everyone?

Well, no, just your spare sackcloth in your bag. Not wearing. Here we go. I thought he meant underwear.

Did anyone else think he meant underwear when he said sackcloth? It's a fabric.

Here's about six inches of my sackcloth. All right. Well, OK, we don't need six inches. And if you could just so actually let's take that. Oh, that's so nice. You only have five pieces of sackcloth and we have about 5000 people here today. I got the fish in the money. I'm gonna do something where if you, uh, JPC, could you rip the sackcloth, uh, put it back in the bag, plant, audience, plant, they know each other.

No, I've never met this man. I mean, no, I know, I know he's Jesus.

How could you say you never met me because you, you specifically asked for the first letter and the last letter of your name to be my name, and then you wanted Paul's to be in the middle.

Jesus Paul Christ. I just love Paul.

Okay.

I wanted a little something from Paul.

Thanks for watching. Okay. First of all, I'd like to label this gossip, but let's get back to the sackcloth. Okay, so who wants to reach into the bag and what would they pull out?

Sorry, I'm writing all this gossip on a piece of cloth to send to Dumois. Okay. Dumois, how do you say it?

Judas here, I will pull it out.

Great. And oh, wow, it's still happening. Oh, man. Still happening. Whoa. Still happening. Could you pass out the sackcloth to everybody? And I would just like to deem that sackcloth is the new money. And who's going to be using that for apples from now on? And by the way, I would like to rebrand apple from the first apple. So we're going to make apple a positive fruit.

Oh Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth, is that you? Yes it is, thank you for coming. What's your name? My name? My name is...

Cesar prepared to have your mind blown. This guy's amazing.

Yes, that's why we're here.

He turned water into wine.

Cesar, do you recognize, you know what, Cesar's here and give to Cesar what is Cesar's. So everybody, if you could just give a portion of your sackcloth to Cesar, let's keep on the rules.

Okay, I mean, this is cool.

Yeah.

I feel like this is sort of gonna cause a lot of evil in the world, Jesus. And that's sort of the opposite of what your whole, like, branding is.

I know. But, um, I think there is something about, like, you know, let's, they, the government, like, he's thinking, what's, of course, I'm thinking of all these variables in my head.

We cut, we cut to, we cut to 300 years later when everyone's writing down the Bible. Does anyone remember? I remember Jesus, from what my grandpa's grandpa used to say. Yeah, yeah. He was like really bad at making a point.

Really bad, yeah.

Well he did speak in a lot of parables. Parables. Parables. But they had like, they did make you think, so I mean, are we storytellers? Many times when people tell stories they remember more than they do if they just heard like a talk. That's true. Speaking of parables, I got a pair of rope bowls here if we want.

We were in the middle of a riddle.

An archaeologist found a coin dated 81 BC, but knew it was fake. Oh shoot, I totally forgot about the riddle. Now Tony, the scene we just did is a bit of a hint. Is it? The sort of main character in that scene played by you is a big hint.

I think I might know what it is, but I'm going to hold off.

I don't have any clue here. Can you give us a hint, Erin?

Yeah, well, I don't know if I can give a hint.

Tony, I'll give you a similar question. A person going through their grandpa's belongings found a flag that said World War I, a tattered flag that said World War I. He immediately knew it was a fake flag.

When I described to you how my armpits are sweating right now, and how I can't feel my body.

We'd say that happens a lot on this show. We're so, so sorry.

Wait, didn't Tony say, before we even did the scene, that there couldn't be a BC?

I don't... Maybe... Did Tony say that?

I did say... Well... Okay so 80 B.C. is 80 years before Christ. Yeah.

Black and black.

And we are 80 B.C. Come on. Come on. It wasn't there.

Right. And you wouldn't call it World War I as it was happening is your point about the other.

Oh. Okay. So if you found a coin that said 81 B.C. on it, it would be fake because...

It would be fake because at the time Christ was not born.

Yes, you wouldn't know that Christ was even coming. They didn't know about Christ.

At first, when you pitched that riddle, I thought it was just dated. I didn't know that it was like a stamp on the coin that said 81 BC. I thought they were just like, this was probably roughly 81 BC. And then I was like, I don't know how you would not. So good. Does carbon dating not work? I don't know. How do you date the coin?

Good, good. Forgery.

Forgery.

Well, this is one big shame game. Thank you for inviting me.

A new name for our podcast, One Big Shame Game.

The big shame game.

Kind of new branding for us, One Big Shame Game.

Rather than RuPaul's Snatch Game, it's Shame Game.

Tony, I'm just gonna sort of intersperse my nerdy comedy questions I've always wanted to ask you in between these riddles. What's your favorite, like, busterism? What's your favorite buster line from the show?

Uh, my favorite li— Well, I immediately think of my favorite— One of my favorite scenes, even though I'm asthmatic and it was not actually my favorite thing to do, but it's my favorite scenes, is when my mother, Lucille Bluth, Jessica Walter, was on house arrest and she couldn't smoke. And so Buster had to, she would light a cigarette and inhale, and I would, she would light a cigarette, I would inhale the smoke out of her mouth and then exhale it on the porch. And I would run back in like a baby bird and then inhale the smoke as she exhaled and then exhale it on the porch. It was such a picture of the depth of codependency of Buster Bluth. That it just framed him in such a beautiful way. That's perfect. Incredible. That is incredible.

How do you not die laughing? That is so funny.

I did. I just broke the whole time. I broke the whole time. She didn't really break. Will made me laugh really hard. Jobe. It's just like, it was so funny. Like it was just David Cross. My favorite David Cross line was, Oh, what is it? Like, Jason asks him something and he goes, like, how's it going or something? He goes, good. It's going to be good. That was a good David Cross. I just love David Cross. Anyways, there's so many. It was really hard. Hot ham water.

The most quoted thing in my house is, there's a bird! It walked on my pillow!

Danji loves birds.

I love them. I love juice.

Love dis juice. Now, Tony, on Arista Development, correct me if I'm wrong, was there a Sean that worked on that?

Oh yeah, Sean that maybe wronged you, that you sort of, the riddle of your life?

No, we're going back to like middle high. High School. We're going back to Tally.

Tallahassee Shawn. There's always a Tallahassee Shawn.

Yeah, but you know... You get older, Sean's got his life, and I've had a shitload of therapy.

We're going to do one more riddle, and I'm going to switch it up just slightly. So this type of riddle I'm going to pose or posit is going to be, I'll call this a trio. I'm going to give you three things. This is similar to the ones JVC did, but not quite. So I'm going to give you three things, and you have to tell me what they all have in common. The gap. Singing in the Rain, the movie, and chromosomes. The Gap, Singing in the Rain, and chromosomes.

I have no idea.

They all have something in common. They all contain one thing.

Okay.

The Gap, Singing in the Rain, and Chromosomes. Oh, wait.

I know.

Jeans. They all have jeans.

Wow. Gene Kelly. That's the first one I got. Wow. And the last. Is that what you were going to say, JPC?

No, I had no idea. I was still on X and Y, and I was like, what does The Gap have that has X and Y?

Well, I was never going to get that one.

Damn good one Tony. Thanks guys, thanks. Now can we have like Forky say hey bitch or something? Can we have what? Can we have Forky say hey bitch?

Forky would never.

Tony would you mind, just one sentence, could you say something as Forky to my wife Gemma? My wife Gemma loves Forky. Her name is Gemma right?

Hey Gemma, this is Forky from Toy Story. Listen, I'm talking to your husband right now, and woo, I got some goss. But Gemma, you hang in there. Bye bye!

That's perfect. That's perfect. Telling my wife to hang in there is so appropriate because living with me is a struggle.

That's about to be her outgoing voice.

Honestly, though, she's sick right now, Adal. You just said before the show, recording, that she's sick right now. So a hang in there message, I feel like, is a great message to receive.

That is incredible. Does she have the flu? We don't know what she has. Actually, you don't need to get into it.

I don't even know why I asked.

It's so funny.

Never mind. You can keep that to yourself.

What are her symptoms? Poor thing. Gemma, feel better.

I relate to Forky because I'm also trash. I'm trash.

Do you know what I love about, there's so many things I love about Forky, but he obviously asks so many questions, and do you remember Gabby Gabby, the little doll in the antique shop? He was very scary. But Forky, since he was new to the world and didn't know anything, he was just like, she's got pretty hair, and went over and just started brushing her hair. And because she was not deemed the evil doll by someone, it enabled her to have kind of a redemptive storyline, and she found someone to love her. And it was because someone crossed the line and went over and saw into her world and didn't see her as a bad person. Which we need to do more in life. That's beautiful. Wow. And Forky is J.P.C. Yeah, exactly.

Whoa.

Well, hey, Tony, you are the MVP of this podcast.

Oh, I love it.

Because you got one riddle, right? Hey, you still win. Tell people about the show, which releases today. Now, this is a little peek behind the curtain. We are actually recording this on April 23rd, the day the show comes out. Casey is working all night to edit this thing to get it out immediately. I don't know how the math works out.

Don't lie to people. We have no good little math. You can do whatever. We talked about Jesus today.

This is not the time to lie. Tell us about the show, a little more about the show. It's so fun.

So yeah, so Kristen Schaal, Matt Oberg, and I, and it's like, just what you mean. It's a joy to do, and I think hopefully it's going to be a joy to listen to. And it's honestly like, it's an opportunity for us and me to meet people that are doing things that I have absolutely no idea how you do it. You know, it's, I mean, I'd be honest, I struggle with anxiety. I do not like heights. And we're meeting these people who just do crazy things. I'm like, do you think about death? You know, do you wake up and you can't wait to do it again? Does it even, just things like this just give me the opportunity to ask and we laugh a lot and it's really fun. That's incredible. That's a great idea for a podcast. It really is. A lot of people who've like beat Guinness records and all that kind of stuff. That's so cool. Yeah, it's cool. Listen to Extraordinarians. Extraordinarians. Thank you guys for having me. This was really, really, really fun.

This is a real honor for us.

We are big nerds for your work. Same.

Adal, Erin, do we have anything to plug?

I got nothing.

I want to plug Tony Hale's Hey Bitch Rope Bowls coming to I believe Sedona Farmer's Market?

Yeah, Sedona Farmer's Market near you. The only farmer's market that would accept me. Of the entire world. We'll take him. Fine. We'll get a tax write-off.

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Wait, I'm sorry. We didn't even, I didn't hear about this. What Pixar work have we done here?

I did some voices and wrote some bits and bops for their new TV show Win or Lose that came out a couple months ago.

Yeah, I saw that advertised. Yes.

It was so fun. I mean, it was like my, I actually am full of existential dread because it was my dream job and I had no other dreams. So now I'm like, what do I do?

New dreams, new dreams. Have you been able to go up to the Pixar headquarters?

I've been there a couple times.

I went to one that was like a jungle theme that was really cool, but it's like they get art directors in there to kind of, you know. That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

I like the crashed plane one a lot, but the witch's cabin one, I don't know if you've been in that one.

I didn't see that one.

It is the coolest. That'd be hard to work in.

It's for new hires. It's for new hires. If they can't hack it in the witch's house, they bounce out. The cold darkness.

The cold darkness keeps spinning over and ruining my paper.

It is the coolest place in the world.

It is. And the food's good.

It's so good. I truly when the first time I went and I was walking around, I was like, did they think I'm like a camera crew? Everyone was so happy and sweet. I would be walking by and they'd be like, I'm working on the lighting for Inside Out 2. Do you want to see what I'm working on? And I'm like, What the heck is HEMA?

It's the happiest people in the world.

Yeah, it's awesome.

That's cool. Congratulations. That's cool.

Thank you so much. Oh, we were trying to end the show. What was I saying? Oh, Jupiter. Yes, that's how we ended the show. I forgot that you were trying. I was like, what were we talking about?

How many parents in the music?

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