Which Riddle Riddle?

#342: The Crab Meat Is Loose

00:00:01

Erin

This is a HeadGum Podcast. And I've got your x-ray right here to look at. Let's take a look. Ton of pain. Whoa. Okay, you are filled with riddles. Oh my god.

JPC

Okay. Yeah, that might be... This is my emotional support Adal, by the way. I'm allowed to have him in here, correct?

Erin

Uh, yes, as long as he has that vest.

JPC

Bark, bark.

Erin

Uh, yeah, wow.

00:01:02

JPC

It's Gucci.

Erin

Yeah, it looks, it does not fit him.

JPC

Well, no, vests are supposed to be really tiny, right?

Erin

Uh, we're gonna have to do emergency surgery. This is too many riddles. This looks like six or seven years.

JPC

Now that I'm looking at the vest, it is too tiny. You know, we got one of those organ grinder monkeys sold it to us. He assured us that this was the fit for like 2025. This was the fit.

Adal

Does the Fez hat at least look normal size?

JPC

The Fez hat looks normal size.

Erin

It's way too small. Yeah, it's at least 20 times too small. I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out.

JPC

I honestly think that that organ grinder monkey ripped us off. I hate to say it because I don't want to make it seem like all organ grinder monkeys are thieves or whatever.

Adal

If I buy that mug, I'm going to grind his organs.

Erin

Before you ask the next 100 questions, everything he's wearing is too small. Okay? Whoa, not pants. What pants?

Adal

Oh, whoops. You know what? The monkey wasn't wearing pants. Yeah, this is just a rain wrap.

00:02:04

JPC

I'm sorry.

Erin

Yeah, we're going to have to go in there.

JPC

Doctor, when he said grind that monkey's organs, he wasn't talking about filleting the monkey.

Adal

No, I was.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Yeah, I would say don't speak for each other. Here's the thing. There's a 10% survival rate on surgeries like this, so.

Adal

Okay. That you will survive the surgery, doctor.

Erin

I know. I get really scared in there and I have a heart attack. I could not live.

JPC

This is just me speaking out loud, but I am hearing a dog barking in the background. And doctor, this is me speaking out loud. You're not a veterinarian, are you? Yeah, of course. Oh, thank God. Okay. Can you help us track down one of your patients? He's a monkey. He's a monkey. And also thank you for your service. Thank you for your service.

Erin

No, I can't. Sir, yes, sir. It's medical privacy. What's that word? Doctor-patient confidentiality.

Adal

Scrubs? Do all doctors watch scrubs?

Erin

Here's a lollipop. Yeah, we watch scrubs. Here's a lollipop. Here's a band-aid. Ooh, mystery flavor, please.

00:03:10

Adal

Mystery flavor.

Erin

Come back in two weeks if you're still in pain from all the riddles, and we'll crack you open and shake you loose.

JPC

Well, I'll tell you what, I'm about to crack open an episode of Hey Riddle Riddle. I'm JPC. I'm Adal Rifai.

Erin

And I'm Erin Keif. That's the most normal we've ever said our names.

JPC

Oh boy. And it's a fun time, and we're all having a good time. And everything's fine. And this is Hey Riddle Riddle, the podcast where everything's fine, and we're having a good time.

Erin

My favorite thing about this podcast is everything's fine and we're having a good time.

Adal

We're having a good time.

JPC

Okay, fine. Speaking of everything being fine and having a good time, I was telling you guys before the recording that I was, you know, we have a We have a friendly camaraderie air to the podcast, and sometimes we like to roast each other a little bit. I was telling you, I was absolutely taking Casey's ass, putting it over a fire, and roasting him last night. And he gave me permission to bring this up on the show, so I want to read you some text message.

00:04:10

Erin

Casey is our beloved audio engineer, editor, who we would be nothing without, just for context.

JPC

Great guy, absolute fantastic work ethic, fantastic finished product too. I mean Casey is one of the best in the business. I would say Casey's maybe one failing is that every month I ask him to send me an invoice for all the hard work that he does. And then I ask him again, and then I ask him again, and then I ask him one more time. And probably about halfway through the month, I finally break down and say, hey man, you have to send me an invoice. And then Casey might pop on if I'm misrepresenting how this goes in any way. He didn't hop on, so we get it.

???

It's more like a third through the month, to be fair.

JPC

OK, sometimes it is a third through the month.

Erin

And Casey, on a scale of 1 to 10, how fucked would we be if we had an HR department?

Adal

You can answer that. His lawyer is shaking his head no. Eleven.

Erin

Eleven. Yeah.

JPC

Why don't we listen. This is a series of text message exchange between Casey and I. We'll say that this is pretty late into the month with these text messages. Hey Riddle Riddle. To which Casey said, bah ha ha ha ha, oh my god, sorry, I'm laughing, Jesus. To which I said, oh, this isn't a laughing matter, it's a serious business discussion. Honestly, I'm trying to help you here. There's something obviously very terrifying about invoices. So like, we absolutely don't have to pay you anymore if it's going to be too scary to deal with. I'm an ally. To which he responded, keep riffing while I fill this out. And I said, uh... Mariah said, you better hope he's not high. Now this is a point where I was telling Mariah about this, and she reminded me that sometimes people like to get high in the evenings. And this could be terrifying to receive as a text message if you're a little bit high. To which Casey responded, ha ha ha. And then, let's see, a few minutes pass, maybe 10 minutes pass, and I get an invoice to my email inbox. And I said, hey man, just got an invoice from you. Feels like we have our wires crossed. To which he responded, smiling face, smiling face upside down, smiling face, smiling face upside down, angel face, smiling face upside down, angel face. He was high.

00:06:42

???

Yeah, he was high. Eyes out. Can I say one thing about JPC's messages that does not read, well does not read when he reads it, is you may have thought that he just sent like two paragraphs of text that I responded to. My man sent like 13 text messages. Every possible statement was a different text. So texts were like popping in on my phone with alarming frequency as he did this.

JPC

So is that helpful to you Casey? I just want to understand the kind of the business process behind it. Is it helpful?

???

Yeah, if you could start doing that at the first of the month. First of the month, 14 text messages.

JPC

Invoice, invoice, invoice, invoice, invoice. Maybe I text you every five minutes until I get an invoice. Maybe that's the new process.

???

I honestly have an alarm app that goes off every five minutes until I either snooze it or do it, so that works for me for real.

Erin

I'm not trying to inflate anyone's ego here, but our group chat, which I think is called JPC Show Us the Baby.

00:07:46

JPC

Still.

Erin

Still.

JPC

Celebrating about a year anniversary, that being the name of the group chat.

Erin

And then the group chat between me, Adal, and JPC is called the Bad News Gang. Isn't that kind of cute, everybody?

???

Oh my goodness I like it when you slam the door on our toes. We in here roasting Casey. Throws Casey keys to my horse. Don't scratch the paint. Throws roast at Casey's head and make it.

JPC

Throws paint at Casey's horse.

???

I hope you like your horse painted. That's my horse. Oh no.

Erin

That's the bad news gag. I laugh out loud so often at the texts that you guys send. I feel bad for people who don't have your number. I'm laughing my ass off all the time.

Adal

Let's put it on the air. JBC's number is... 9-1-1. 6-9-4-20.

JPC

Do 9-1-1 ask for JPC?

00:09:00

???

Hey Riddle

JPC

I would say 90% of it feels like scams, but it's from like marketing companies to be like, hey, we want to help you grow the reach of your podcast or like we want to get you 75,000 views on Instagram or you know, shit like that. It'd be so huge for us and the majority of it... Hey everyone. for whatever the thing and the guy was like I want to have a call you know and so I emailed him back and I was like sure let's do a call let's I'll hear you out to see like what it is that you can offer um and it was I would say it went pretty well and they seemed like it was legit and they seemed like they had like legitimate things that they could do for the show

00:10:14

Erin

How much money did you spend overseas? Just get to the point.

JPC

Here's the thing.

Adal

He was a prince, Erin. A prince.

JPC

I think the show is good. I like the show. And I think that, like, we ask our listeners, hey, if you like the show, recommend it to someone.

Erin

Yeah.

JPC

I understand that it's hard to do because of what the show is, so I don't blame people for not recommending it. But any way that we can, like, reach a new audience, I think that's, you know, that's good for the show. And so what this guy's pitch was is they can use our podcast, like, analytics And then reach out to Terrestrial Radio Stations.

???

Alien?

JPC

ET Listen Podcast. I think that's extraterrestrial.

Erin

We're terrestrial and they got a little bit of something something.

Adal

Oh, so we're like original terrestrial. They're extra spicy terrestrial.

Erin

My doctor says my terrestrial is so high that I should eat more Cheerios.

JPC

He says your terrestrial is Nashville hot, right? You have the bad terrestrial. Type one. So we could basically do station identifiers, station call sign identifiers in local markets where we are more appealing and that would help kind of increase the visibility for the show.

00:11:28

Erin

Like, so like downtown Portland in the middle of a full moon.

JPC

I recorded like 10 of these. They're super easy. I already sent them off. And we're basically going to do this as like a test to see if these like help us at all. So I was hoping that we could have you two just record your radio call sign identifiers very briefly on the show. Because I felt, you know, I did it off off pod, but we might as well like knock out two birds with one stone. Are you guys up for that?

Erin

Yeah.

JPC

OK, cool. Adal.

Erin

This is going to be something weird, you guys.

JPC

No, no, no. Adal, let's do one of yours first, OK? Yeah, I'll put it in the chat. Go ahead and just give it to me whenever you're ready.

Adal

OK. And I do have a question, JPC. Yeah. Do you know how, like, news anchors and sports anchors and radio hosts and a slew of other on-mic professionals tend to put some mustard on the ball, is the business term?

???

Yeah.

Adal

You know how like a baseball announcer will be like, and that's why DiMaggio's the best in the biz. Yeah. Because that person isn't, you know, that person's not going through McDonald's being like, can I get a burger and fries and a large Sprite?

00:12:39

Erin

Tom Brady got in a lot of trouble for putting mustard on that ball or doing something to it. I don't know.

Adal

Or something. Go Pats.

Erin

Go Pats.

Adal

The Flight Gate. Do you want a little radio mustard?

JPC

I love that. I say just be you because they want to hear the you that is on the podcast so that they'll find the show. Go ahead.

Adal

Okay. Hey, it's Adal Rifai from Hey Riddle Riddle, and you're listening to K106, St. Louis's home for classic rock. Couldn't help but put a little snake on it.

Erin

There's no way that people who listen to classic rock in St. Louis would like our show, by the way.

JPC

Hey, they said this is the marketing demographics. Erin, you ready for yours? Yes. Okay, go ahead.

Erin

Hey, it's Erin Keif from Hey Riddle Riddle, and you're listening to Z101.1, the hottest hits of the 70s, 90s, and today. Awesome. What happened to the 80s?

Adal

Skip the 80s.

JPC

Yeah, the 80s and the 2000s, especially. Yeah, that's great. Erin, you nailed it. Adal, here's your next one.

00:13:40

Adal

Okay. I realize why people do that now, that voice, is because otherwise it's too low energy.

JPC

Exactly.

Adal

It's too conversational. Okay. Yeah. This is a first impression for you, for people. All right, here we go. Here's ... JBC just sent me the next one. Hey, it's Adal Rifai from Revolver, and you're listening to the Applebee's Neighborhood Bar & Grill Corporate Approved Playlist.

JPC

Awesome. That's going to be huge for us. Erin, here's your next episode.

Erin

Revolver was Adal's herald team at the I.O. in Chicago. Very good herald team.

JPC

Their data says that that's what people are interested in. Okay.

Erin

Hi, I'm Erin Keif from WETBUS, and you're listening to HOT 95.5, Columbia College's only station for experimental hyper pop. Up next, we've got Frillbrillet. It's Adal Rifai and you're listening to 12 Hour Nature Sounds, Relaxation, Perfect Meditation, Renewal, Deep Sleep, Adderall, Drink Water on YouTube. 11 hours to go.

00:14:53

Adal

Awesome, love it. Erin, it's you next.

Erin

Erin Keif here, and you're in Terminal K of Boston Logan International Airport, and legal seafood is out of crab. The shells, not the meat. There is plenty of meat left. We just can't put it in the crab shells like we normally do. I'm Erin Keif. I'm Erin Keif, I'm crying. I'm Erin Keif, and the crab meat is loose.

Adal

Oh, that's a good, that's a sign-off call. That's a catchphrase.

Erin

If I do that one again, I can do it better.

Adal

No, we got it clean. I think we got it clean. Hey, why don't we have Adal do one? Let's have Adal do one. I'm Adal Rifai and you fell asleep in the Wendy's drive-thru. Please pull forward and claim your Baconator or the authorities will be called. Awesome. Got that one. Great. Erin, you're up next.

JPC

Here we go.

Erin

Hey, it's Erin Keif from insert exact address and you're on the wrong side of the glass of the octopus exhibit at the Brookfield Zoo.

JPC

I think they want you to insert your exact address. I don't think they want you to read that part, but it's fine. It's fine. Adal, you're up next.

00:15:54

Adal

We can edit and post. Adal Rifai here from Hey Riddle Riddle, and you're watching a TikTok of a cat making pudding. You're too high to watch this right now. Like it and go to bed.

???

Like it.

Adal

That's good. That's what the demographics say.

JPC

Erin, it's all you.

Erin

It's your girl Erin Keif and you're listening to a Hilary Duff PSA from 2008 where she says, don't say gay when you mean something is bad. Knock it off.

JPC

Great PSA and a lot of traction on that with our audience. Adal, you're up.

Adal

I'm Adal Rifai and this is x86, the bear. It's 2.45am and you're listening to DJ Keizerik have a full-blown breakdown while playing Never Had No One Ever by The Smiths on repeat for two hours while he desperately calls all of his exes and leaves rambling voicemail.

JPC

That's a big market for us.

Erin

Hi, I'm Erin Keif, and you're listening to a little angel on your shoulder telling you to not stick your whole hand in your younger, uglier cousin's wedding cake, but you should be listening to the little devil on your other shoulder. Samantha doesn't deserve happiness, and this would have been your special day if she hadn't pushed you onto those train tracks.

00:17:04

JPC

Awesome. Okay, you guys are doing great. These are so good.

Adal

Oh, Erin, that one's a little close to home for you.

JPC

I know. I think that this is really gonna help the show. I think we have just one more. Adal, go ahead and give me this one clean.

Adal

Hey, it's Adal Rifai from Hey Riddle Riddle, and you're listening to me list every slur I know, starting with... And then I think they want you to just... You know what?

JPC

That's fine. We don't have to read them all. No, I'll do them.

Erin

Yeah, there's probably a ton more, right?

JPC

Erin, why don't we just do yours? It's like your final one. Let's do your final one.

Erin

It's Erin Keif from Hey Riddle Riddle, and you're listening to Adal Rifai list every slur he knows, starting with...

JPC

I don't know why, but I guess those last two were part of our target market. You guys did such a good job. Oh, you know what? I have one that I didn't read. Do you guys mind if I just finish off with mine? Oh yeah, of course. Oh yeah, please. Hey, it's JPC from Hey Riddle Riddle, and you're listening to The Normal Radio. Fuck you. Wait a minute, wait a minute.

00:18:07

Erin

I mean, I gotta read this one again, because I think it's my favorite comedy thing I've ever read. Erin Keif here, and you're in Terminal K of Boston's Logan International Airport, and legal seafood is out of crab. The shells, not the meat. There's plenty of meat left, we just can't put it in the crab shells like we normally do. I'm Erin Keif, and the crab meat is loose.

JPC

Erin, do you want to know what? I wrote that one at the Boston Logan International Airport, and that's the first one that I wrote. You're kidding. Oh, this would be a fun bit for the show. And then I forgot about it, and it was just, that line was just on my phone for like six months.

Erin

I didn't know you had something so precious on your phone for that long.

JPC

I know. It was in my HRR ideas folder, which might as well be a fucking trash bin for all the good ones.

Erin

What's in there? That's crazy.

JPC

All right, are you guys ready to do some riddles?

00:19:09

Erin

That's the darkest corner of the internet, is JPC's ideas for the show. It's some dark web shit.

JPC

And if you like that, that's what the show sounds like when we put in a little bit of effort. So maybe we'll do some of that for 2025.

Adal

Your brain is like Silk Road for insanity.

Erin

Yes, Adal.

JPC

Wow, that's such a compliment. I love that as a compliment. And that's how I choose to receive it. And I hear it as a compliment. Are you guys ready for some riddles? Yes, please. Okay, let's do it. Here we go. Rollercoaster. I thought these were all nicknames for Amelia Earhart. Curve Swerver is a... Curve Swerver sounds like a D&D character I would have made up in like 2006.

00:20:12

Erin

Yeah. I'd like to see a scene.

JPC

Oh, please.

Erin

You are two guys on a roller coaster and while the roller coaster is going you're trying to plan what face you want to make for the photo.

JPC

The most important part is let's not look scared.

Adal

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like mouth open, but happy.

JPC

Oh, yeah. Maybe not mouth open.

Adal

Maybe mouth close and happy.

JPC

Because we both ate six hot dogs before we got on this, so it's like the more open the mouth, I think the more risk that, you know, because they take it at the worst possible.

Adal

Yeah, yeah. And I also brought a 32-inch TV and an N64 so we can pull it out and look like we're playing at the exact time. That's so smart.

JPC

Was that what flew off immediately?

Adal

Yeah, yeah. I think it hit somebody behind me. I don't want to look back.

JPC

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I feel like there's a guy with a weird neck right behind us and it may have been getting hit with a click.

Adal

Okay, so we're at the part of the roller coaster where Adam Sandler finds the remote. Okay. This is very exciting. I love themed roller coasters.

00:21:21

Erin

I got it right though, right?

JPC

You said clicker and I honestly forgot about the camera part.

Erin

Because you're so used to taking photos on your phone. You forget to feel the earth under your feet.

Adal

Wow. Those are beautiful lyrics. Have you guys seen the whole thing where people bring items to pull out during the photo part of Disney rides?

JPC

I've not.

Adal

I've seen one where somebody has an old school TV and then two other people have wired controllers and they're playing like PlayStation or something.

Erin

How did they get an old school TV into the theme park?

Adal

Erin, that's the thing. It is insane. I will send you an album of all the shit people have brought onto roller coasters to get a picture. Do it.

Erin

But what should we do?

JPC

Because how do they do it? At Disney, you don't let people bring a big TV. JBC, man, I'm the messenger. I don't know the ins and outs. Do they have a drawing? Do they have a picture of it? They're holding a picture so that the picture makes it look like they have a TV?

00:22:22

Adal

I mean here's the thing, I could be duped in this as photoshop but it seems like there's people who their whole Pride and Joy is sneaking things into theme parks and getting pictures on roller coasters.

Erin

You guys, I have a really good idea. Yeah. Adal and I are in the second seats together, and JPC and a mannequin are in the first seat. And we take the head off the mannequin, and JPC holds the head. And then when the photo comes, we all are screaming. It looks like our friend's head came off.

JPC

I also don't really know about sneaking things into Disney, because I've only been to Disney... No, I've been twice. I've been to the one in LA and I've been to the one in Florida. But the last time I was in the one in Florida, there were people with wagons full of stuff. Because you can bring in food and shit into Disney, so maybe it's relatively easy to quote-unquote sneak a bunch of stuff into Disney.

Erin

I don't know if you can sneak in electronics. A TV?

Adal

Yeah. Didn't Banksy sneak in sculptures or something? Right? Didn't Banksy do something at Disney?

00:23:28

JPC

And can Banksy and Disney collab? Is that something they can do? Oh, I wish. A Banksy-Disney. A Mickey Mouse, but he's got a gun. And it's about the war.

Adal

There's a tank and there's balloons for some reason.

JPC

Oh yeah, balloons. And it's about the war. What war? And there's a line of a little kid, and it's about the war. What war? Well, okay. Erin, tell me you don't know about the world without telling me you don't know about the world. What war? Obviously. Can you read the riddle again? Big ones. Yeah, and Erin, you didn't get it. Air cutter, wind slicer.

Erin

I didn't get it?

JPC

It's not a roller coaster.

Erin

What are we fucking talking about? That's crazy. Okay, read it again.

JPC

Air Cutter, Wind Slicer, Gravity Teaser, Spin Skimmer, Curve Swerver, Dipper, and Lifter, Climber, and Diver toss across space between friends where I begin, I end.

Erin

Frisbee. It's a frisbee.

Adal

These also sound like old-timey baseball pitches.

Erin

It also could be a boomerang.

JPC

It is a frisbee. Wow. Good job, Erin. Great job, Erin. Yeah, these do sound like baseball pitches. I'd like to see a scene. The Air Cutter, the Wind Slicer, the Dipper, and the Lifter.

00:24:38

Erin

GPC, you are the captain of the Ultimate Frisbee Team, and you're giving us a speech because you don't think the team is taking it seriously enough.

JPC

Got it. Alright everybody, gather around, gather around. Good stuff out there, I would say, in the first act.

Adal

Lotus position?

JPC

What's that?

Adal

Should we be in Lotus?

JPC

Yeah, and Brian, go ahead and just let us know what you think Lotus position is.

Adal

Hey, put my head by my feet?

JPC

No, uh, incorrect. Brian, no, Brian, that's more of like a yoga position.

Erin

Hey guys! Yeah, what if we all just smoked a joint and went and got root beer floats? That sounds pretty good after...

JPC

Uh, Kelly, I love that. We might be doing that after the game, but for now, even though we're still down six points, let's try to, like, just do our best to play Ultimate Frisbee.

Erin

Oh, we're in the middle of a game.

JPC

Yeah, yeah. So, a real quick reminder of how Ultimate Frisbee works. You're allowed to move when you don't have the Frisbee. You only have to be standing still when you have the Frisbee.

00:25:42

Adal

Wow. Well, the path to enlightenment is moving with or without the Frisbee.

JPC

Ryan, I don't know what that means, but it can't have anything to do with Ultimate Frisbee, right?

Adal

I gotta admit, when she said, smoke weed and get a root beer float, I already started smoking.

JPC

Yeah, no, yeah, I can see that. So, basically what we're doing right now, and I love it, is we're all standing at the goal line, smoking weed, and drinking root beer.

Adal

And reading Howard Zinn.

JPC

Yeah, I have seen- Brian, I have seen you. That's a big book, too. People's History of the United States, that's a pretty big book. For a game of Ultimate Frisbee. Pretty big history.

Erin

Coleman, can you remind us of the stakes of this? It's just us playing another dorm, right?

JPC

Yeah, just an 80-year-old- We're playing East Hall? Yeah, we're just playing East Hall. Um, well, here's the thing. I guess there are no stakes.

Adal

That's good, because we're vegans.

JPC

Well, we're all having root beer floats. So I don't know how vegan we are, huh? What do you mean? That's- Ice cream is dairy and that- What? Huh? I actually- I knew about this earlier and I didn't want to introduce a whole thing that was gonna make us not focus on the fact that we're not playing Ultimate Frisbee. We're not? And it's fine if no one wants to play Ultimate Frisbee, but this is like a volunteer thing. So if you don't want to play the game, like you don't have to be here.

00:27:08

Erin

No, I like- I like Frisbee.

Adal

I like Frisbee.

Erin

We should play. We should get a group together and we should play.

Adal

Oh, that would be amazing. That's truly what this is.

Erin

Yeah, we could get a group together and maybe it's like all of us in West Hall and then we could like... We play East Hall. Like East Hall and North Hall and South Hall. And then there's like a tournament every year and whoever wins the tournament gets a trophy. We should put something like that together.

Adal

We should put something like that together.

JPC

Yeah. I'm gonna run over and pitch the idea to the East Hall guys. You guys, hang out. Hang out real quick. I'm just gonna run over and pitch the idea to the East Hall guys. Hey guys, we're gonna forfeit again.

Erin

Good news, because we are high over here.

Adal

But we did have an idea. What if we... Nah, I'm all good on ideas.

Erin

Yeah, we get a bunch of people together.

Adal

Nah, I'm all good. See? See? So stupid.

JPC

It's so stupid. Ultimate Frisbee, it's just two groups of people on a different side of a quad smoking weed and drinking milkshakes.

00:28:09

Erin

You say we should play Ultimate Frisbee at some point.

Adal

And Erin's holding an acoustic guitar.

JPC

That does kind of feel like how a dormitory organized Frisbee thing would go with one person who cares about it and everybody else is like, I'm here because we do, there's pizza, right? The college gave us a budget for pizza.

Erin

I joined the juggling club in high school because I wanted the sweatshirt.

JPC

And did you get it?

Erin

Yeah. And then I wore it. Do you still have it? Yeah, it's in my house in Massachusetts.

JPC

Can we see it? I didn't know you were down with the clown, Erin. I bring you music. I cover cold creatures, to read me you must step on me. I hope she's not wearing stiletto heels when she steps on me. Like a gravestone? That would be bad. Ow.

00:29:40

Erin

Your mic is on. Huh?

JPC

I bring you music, I cover cold creatures. To read me, you must step on me.

Adal

Like a cricket?

???

The moon.

Adal

Erin, you said the moon? No, I didn't. No, couldn't possibly. I make music. I cover creatures. I bring you music. I bring you music.

JPC

It's not necessarily I make, it's I bring you music.

Adal

Oh, coconuts. Were you guys alive when coconuts was a thing? The record store? Huh? Coconuts.

JPC

No, the record store Coconuts?

Adal

There's a music store called Coconuts, and they were in every mall, and you would go to Coconuts to get your music. That's where I got the Power Rangers movie soundtrack on cassette.

???

Was it original, Erin? Do you know Coconuts? Adal. Adal. Whoa.

Adal

Oh no, my fingernails are growing.

Erin

He's so old. My skin is receding. I have no idea what Adal is talking about. I don't know what Coconuts is.

JPC

We had a chain of record stores growing up called Karma, Karma Records. The movie Empire Records, there was Sam Goody I believe was a record store.

00:30:43

Erin

Oh yeah. We had Newberry Comics in Massachusetts.

JPC

I don't know, Coconuts. It's not that either way. Okay, okay. I bring you music, I cover cold creatures. To read me, you must step on me. Each one of these lines describes this thing in a different way.

Adal

Okay.

JPC

So this is like a word that maybe has a few different meanings. I bring you music. Or for different uses, I would say.

Adal

Tape, vinyl, record. A record? Is this like Darwin or something?

JPC

No, it is not. I like where your head's out, because record definitely has different uses, but it's not record. CD.

Erin

Disc.

JPC

Ear.

Adal

Bringing music.

JPC

You weren't close with record, just record is one of those things that has multiple meanings. Soundwave. A... I actually like this one. I would say this riddle ... We've been doing these cards that someone sent me, and this riddle is, I would say, one of the more medium hard ones.

Adal

Okay. Come get a tiny little, just a little sprinkle of clue.

JPC

How best to help you guys. Okay, I cover cold creatures. What are we thinking? What's a cold creature?

00:31:44

Adal

Reptile.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

The sun.

JPC

No. A terrarium. That is a good way for ... A lamp. It's less about ... It's more about what's on the reptile scales.

Adal

Scales. Scales. The musical scales.

JPC

Musical scales. Reptiles have scales. And to read me you must step on me. That is a scale for like your weight basically.

Adal

Don't tread on me. I do want to see a scene. Yeah. The two of you are snakes and you are in the studio about to lay down your first album. I'm getting a lot of feedback at the mic. That might be a mic issue.

???

Are you sure it's us? It's a mic issue.

Adal

Yeah, it is. You okay? And we are recording.

Erin

Where are you? Those guys are snakes!

JPC

All three of them! Where are you? Um, wow, that would be crazy because Tom DeLonge is like getting everybody looking for aliens, yet the whole time he's like a lizard person?

00:32:54

Erin

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adal

Wow, Mr. X, classic Mr. X. With snakes more like dumpling quantity too. I guess they have those nicotine eyelids or whatever.

JPC

We'll figure it out, we'll take a quick break, and we'll be back with more What Are Snakes Islands.

Erin

Don't blink, 182. Adal, that is so good, that took me so long. My brain took like forever to process it. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Adal

Brrr, cold, cold, cold. It's freezing out here, what's going on?

Erin

Guys, it's pretty cold out here.

JPC

Wait a second. Wait a second. Wait a second. Is it cold out here or is that creeping chill coming from our own minds?

Erin

That makes sense because this year has been pretty difficult so far, not naming names or months that were terrible. January, February, looking at you.

00:33:59

JPC

Not going to name years, 2025, looking at you.

Erin

But what can we do about it? How can we feel better?

JPC

Wait a second. I just had a million dollar idea. I mean, it's not really a million dollar. They don't pay us a million dollars. But if they wanted to, they could. If they wanted to bump up our fee.

Erin

Are you about to invent therapy? Because that already exists. And you can get it through BetterHelp.

JPC

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Adal

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Erin

You can easily switch therapists anytime at no extra cost. I use BetterHelp. This works for how my brain works, which is I like to be able to message my counselor anytime when I'm actually experiencing something. And it helps so much. Again, not looking at you, any months, January, February, months.

JPC

And if you're one of those people out there that says, I don't know about online therapy, I don't know if it's right for me, let me demystify the whole thing by telling you exactly what the process is. You show up, you're sitting basically in front of your computer or whatever, your therapist shows up, you tell them, what is making your brain freezing cold? And then they say, tell me more about that. And you kind of talk through it and you leave the session and maybe your brain feels a little bit warmer. Now, doesn't that sound pretty nice?

00:35:19

Adal

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JPC

And if you're wondering why we said discover your relationship green flags with BetterHelp, Maybe we were supposed to talk about relationship green flags up at the top. It doesn't matter. We didn't actually have to, but that's just for context for people. We're wearing green flags. We're wearing green flags. We're wearing green flags.

Erin

This podcast is sponsored by Squarespace.

Adal

Erin, JPC, come on in. Welcome. Welcome to Riddle Manor.

JPC

Oh, you kind of like decorated your house for Halloween or something earlier?

Adal

Something like that. I made a website on Squarespace. Sure. Riddle Manor. I'm not going to say a website, but I made it with Squarespace. Therefore, I made my dreams come true.

00:36:22

Erin

Oh, you're talking about Squarespace, the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online?

Adal

Yes, Erin, and no doy.

JPC

Oh, okay. And that somehow translated into Riddle Manor. Is this an actual house or am I in cyberspace? Is this like a Matrix thing that's happening?

Erin

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Adal

Oh, and look, if I grab this book off the library shelf, it comes off and I open it up and there's riddles inside.

JPC

Oh, okay. Yeah, it's a book. Standard book.

Adal

Yeah, it's a book. What did you expect?

JPC

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00:37:39

Adal

Ooh. Erin, watch. When I walk by this painting, the eyes stay put because they're painted.

Erin

That is haunting.

Adal

Mm-hmm.

Erin

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JPC

And Adal, I'm finally happy to say I get what this is. This is regular house.

Erin

Yeah.

Adal

Yeah. Yeah. Online in a website. Our podcast is already so haunted I figured we just have a regular house that people can come visit.

JPC

Got it. Now it all makes sense. It's all clicking. Our podcast is the thing that's different and everything else is regular and it's a website and it's online.

Adal

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JPC

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00:38:45

Erin

A succinct tagline. We love it. It's perfect.

Adal

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Adal

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00:39:58

???

Hey Riddle Riddle

JPC

We're back into it and normally I would say when we take a little break in the podcast, we don't actually take a break, but we did take a little break. And Adal, you went and got yourself a little coffee? Yeah. I've been getting into espresso since Mirai got me an espresso machine for my birthday. And I'm truly like getting into like deep espresso pervert. You're It takes a while to make an espresso. It's not quick. It's not like brewing a pot of coffee and just go get a little more. So now I'm actually drinking less coffee because I'm like, do I want to spend five minutes doing this? Probably not.

00:41:06

Adal

Good deterrent. Do you feel like you've got it down? Because I feel like last time I talked to you, you were testing out the machine. Do you feel like you got it down?

JPC

Yeah, so I'll shout out two of my friends, Johnny O'Meara, who have been on the podcast before, and Harrison Lott, who were both baristas, former baristas, former Starbucks baristas, and they both graciously came over to my house and helped me diagnose what I was doing wrong, and now I feel pretty confident that I'm doing most things correctly. You know, look for the helpers. If you are a person who wants to be a barista, stop. Text your friends. Text your friends that you think have a barista vibe. It probably turns out that they did serve coffee at one point and they may be able to help you.

Erin

I forgot that Harrison was a barista.

JPC

Yeah, I think both of them were baristas 10 years ago, too. So they were like, I think this is right. And I was like, OK, it's better than what I have.

Adal

Now, Erin, on the break, it looks like you got a neck tattoo that says loose crab meat.

Erin

I did, yeah. It was expensive and the tattoo shop closed down right after I got it, so I think it was unsanctioned. Is it bleeding?

00:42:11

???

It's in the process of closing down.

Erin

I did run and get my heating pad because it is absolutely freezing in my house right now. So there's a heating pad up my stomach.

Adal

on the show.

Erin

What?

JPC

Have you ever had a car with heated seats?

Erin

Yeah, of course, but why would I sit on my heated- why do I want a hot butt?

Adal

Erin, do you not keep your butthole at a roasty toasty 92 degrees at all times?

Erin

Oh my god, is your butthole not supposed to be freezing? Adal, are you serious? Is your butthole not supposed to be freezing cold?

Adal

Guys, please tell me.

Erin

Do not clip that, by the way. Fuck you. We'll talk about clipping it, but we won't clip it.

JPC

No, we won't. Now we do have to.

Erin

Now I'm fucking paranoid. Now I'm scared to talk on this show.

JPC

Yeah, stay mad. I bet you do, say that! But your stomach, Erin, I feel like it just, it wouldn't, like, with your back, you're, like, leaning back into it, so you're applying pressure between the back of your chair and the heating pad, so that, but on your stomach, like, are you just pressing it down into your stomach?

00:43:18

Erin

Yeah, it's, like, just, like, on my stomach, like, this way. Okay.

JPC

Oh, and you've got your arms kind of holding it in.

Erin

Yeah, I have my arms holding it in. When people are about to drown, you are supposed to warm up their organs. Like if you pulled them out of cold water or something.

Adal

Oh, you cut them open and take out their organs?

Erin

You're supposed to warm their torso, like where their heart is. So I feel like it helps my whole body stay warm.

Adal

Got it. Erin? What? I hate to call you out. Did you learn that from Batman Begins? When Bale falls through the ice and Liam Neeson says, Warm your torso, your arms will take care of themselves.

Erin

You think that I've seen that movie more than once? You're sorely mistaken. The first one and the third one of that trilogy I saw one time in theaters and never again. The second one I have seen a hundred thousand times as many of us have.

JPC

Mariah and I are re-watching some Bond movies and we re-watched Goldfinger. And there's like an iconic scene in Goldfinger. It's like one of the 60 Sean Connery Bond movies where the bad guy, Goldfinger, kills a woman by like painting her whole body gold. And James Bond says to his boss, he's like, yeah, it was skin suffocation is what killed her. And me and Mariah both stopped the movie. We're like, no, that's not. James Bond confidently said skin suffocation. Like that was a thing that exists.

00:44:41

Erin

We're not taking oxygen through our arms.

JPC

Hey, no, we're not. We do not breathe through our skin, James Bond.

Erin

I'm sure the actress died by lead poisoning.

JPC

Yeah, but we looked it up and it was just a thing that Ian Fleming made up. Oh, right. But when they were filming that movie in the 60s, they were so concerned that it was a real thing that they had a doctor on set Hey Riddle Riddle. The doctor's like, well, I don't want to tell them that this is nothing because I am getting paid to be here. So I don't want to like blow up my own spot.

Erin

It's like, I hope I don't get fire shoulders, a thing I just made up.

Adal

It's like, well, I'm so brilliant, fire shoulders might be a real thing. Doctors, what do you say?

00:45:45

JPC

All right, speaking of doctors, hold on, let me see, is this a segue? It's not. Happy to report it is not a segue. This has nothing to do with doctors. We're going to read another riddle. My round mouth, Casey Clippett, will never dog. Where I vomit, there you walk.

Adal

So, we're

???

Where it drains out. You know what I'm talking about?

Erin

Where the rain drains out from.

Adal

The roof? A spout?

JPC

Well, I know the itsy bitsy spider climbed up the water spout.

Erin

Forget it. I can't think of it. A hose.

00:46:45

JPC

Ooh.

Erin

Hey, I got a question for you guys.

JPC

In the Itsy Bitsy Spider, we're all familiar with the song, when the itsy bitsy spider climbs up the water spout, what is in your mind, what is the spider climbing up?

Erin

The thing I'm trying to think of in my head. The thing on the side of a house.

Adal

The gutter that goes down. Yeah, the gutter that goes down. Your metal gutter, your aluminum gutters, and then they all feed into a long tube.

???

That's what I was trying to think of.

Adal

And then it has a spout, like a little angled spout to shoot it out away from the house.

???

Yeah, that's what I think of too.

JPC

I have a book that has little songs in it. Not for me, it's for a child. But there's like, it's like a, it's the itsy bitsy spiders in there and it's, you know, art depicting the itsy bitsy spider. And they have the itsy bitsy spider climbing up a watering can. And I'm like, that's not the water spout that the itsy bitsy spider climbs up.

Erin

Down came the rain and washed the spider out.

JPC

And it's like pouring the water from- That's not rain. That's not even rain.

Erin

on the show.

00:48:00

???

Fist fight. Do what needs to be done.

JPC

Swing your dick around Harper Collins. Not actionable. Not actionable. My round mouth will never talk where I vomit there you walk.

Erin

It's not a fire hydrant.

Adal

Is it Mickey Rooney?

JPC

It's not Mickey Rooney.

Erin

It's water that goes to the ground somewhere.

JPC

A sprinkler. It's not water, Erin. My round mouth will never talk. Will never talk. Where I vomit, which is disgusting but kinda accurate.

Erin

That shouldn't be a complicated question.

Adal

Yeah, vomit's liquid.

JPC

I wouldn't call it liquid, but it's like... There are... No, it's not really liquid, but there are aspects to it that follow the same properties as a liquid would.

Erin

Like a maple syrup or a... Yeah, exactly, like it's... Butthole, 92 degrees.

00:49:00

Adal

That's not a butthole. My round mouth never talks. Where I vomit, there you walk.

JPC

What do you walk? Yeah, what are you walking on? Sidewalk. Okay, great. Oh? Sidewalk. Yeah. Perfect. My round mouth will never talk where I vomit. There you walk. Okay. Sidewalk.

Adal

Sidewalk is where... What would vomit a sidewalk?

JPC

Trash can.

Erin

A trash can. A cement mixer?

JPC

Erin, it is a concrete mixer.

Erin

Oh, what did I say? Cement. Cement. That's not quite right.

???

Well, cement and concrete are similar.

Erin

What is it?

JPC

My dad was a concrete man for many years. I know the answer to this.

Erin

Oh.

JPC

Concrete is in cement, but cement is not concrete. I think concrete is like cement plus particulates plus water. It's like a mix of the thing.

00:50:05

Erin

We can't Google, we can't Google.

JPC

But you know when you know something, you just don't know something? That's how I feel about the difference between concrete and cement. One of them is inside the other one. Ooh, they're dating.

Erin

I do want to see a scene.

JPC

And this is going to be based on Where I Vomit, There You Walk. Adal, you are trying to tell Erin, a stranger on the street, that they just stepped in something, but you're trying to be as gentle because you're approaching a stranger as you possibly can be, but you just also want them to know.

Erin

What do you mean I'm fired? Oh my god. This is the worst day of my life. I got broken up with this morning. Oh, my rent got increased.

Adal

I should say something. Carl?

Erin

My grandpa died last night and you're saying you're firing me over the phone? I thought I was getting a promotion today. On my birthday.

Adal

Ma'am? Ma'am?

Erin

Sorry. This guy on the street is trying to talk to me. Yes?

Adal

Well, my name is Robert. I'm not a guy. I'm not like a Billy Eichner type. I just have a microphone, but it's like just a comfort thing.

00:51:11

Erin

I don't want to be on the TV, sir. What do you mean I don't get any sort of pension or... Oh God, there's no firing package. You're not even gonna give me two weeks. I have no money saved.

Adal

You just, um, you're actually- Sorry, this guy's trying to talk to me again.

Erin

Yeah?

Adal

So sorry, Robert. I'm the same guy from before. I don't- That didn't walk away.

Erin

I'm still here. Why would I learn a stranger's name on the street, sir? That's insane.

Adal

It just seems like common decency. You actually just, um- Wait, I'm getting a call from the vet.

Erin

Oh, God. Marbles, please be- Hello?

???

Hey, it's Marbles. Look, I made a big mistake. I want you back, baby. I know I broke up with you this morning, but I'm your vet boyfriend. I want to take care of you. I want to give you everything you ever wanted.

Erin

Go sock a duck.

Adal

Wow, I guess you have a dog's name. You go into being a veterinarian, right?

Erin

Can I help you, sir?

Adal

You had the phone on speakerphone so I couldn't help but listen, you just, um, you just stepped in one of the national parks of this neighborhood. It's a little, it's just like a 4x4 hole of swampland and it looks like you got What? It's a creature. Here in town we have a national park and it's a 4x4 hole of marsh, swampland. Sort of a extension of the Everglades.

00:52:34

JPC

Robert! Robert! Oh I'm so sorry ma'am, my dog got off leash. He wasn't bothering you was he? See? My name's Marbles. You look distraught. Can I buy you a drink?

Erin

Oh, that's a weird loop.

JPC

Yeah, Marbles was a dog for sure. I've been out of the dating game for a while. Is that not what you say? You look distraught. May I buy you a drink?

Erin

Yeah, that's exactly what you say.

Adal

Someone's read the game.

JPC

I know that I'm supposed to nag them. You look distraught. Okay, here's your next one. Ready? Go down light, come up heavy. Never get to keep the stuff I carry. Come up heavy, go down light. Nothing else to do, but that's alright.

Erin

Water.

Adal

Reverse sleeping.

Erin

Could you read it again?

JPC

Nope. I wanted you to see it. Adal, you're going to be a scientist and you're going to be giving a lecture on the process of reverse sleeping, a new process that you have just kind of coined.

00:53:37

Adal

Who here knows about sleep? All hands go up. I'm not even going to turn around. I assume all hands are up. Who here knows about reverse sleep? Turning around, see two hands up. That's weird.

Erin

We were at your last talk. Yeah, we were just here to support. Good luck, bud.

Adal

We were at the 930. You crushed. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Now when we're sleeping, which is typically 6-9 hours a day for any healthy adult, now scientists have studied sleep for 60 years and all they've come up with is, we go to sleep because we get sleepy. That's not... that doesn't feel right, right? We should know more about why we sleep versus... That doesn't feel right. The fact that we only know that we sleep because we get sleepy... What are we doing, sleep study scientists, right? This is the same guy, right, from 930?

Erin

I think he panicked because the 69 joke didn't get a laugh this time.

00:54:40

JPC

Um, well, what if I... I saw him drop all his note cards into his glass of water. He shouldn't have had such tiny note cards.

Adal

Do you see how index cards dissolve? Um, when you wake up from sleep, you're no longer sleeping. But isn't life a waking dream? Nietzsche, I believe, said. Or maybe it was Camus. Camu? His name isn't Camu. Albert Camu. Maybe it is. We can't Google. We're in class. Listen, what we're doing now is reverse sleeping. I want everyone to stand on your desks like in that movie. Everyone stand on your desks like that. Oh, I'm so sorry. Obviously these desks are like not made for... 20 pounds? I'm so sorry.

Erin

You said 20 pounds?

Adal

That's all they can hold? What if they have heavy books? Okay, this is not my fault. I didn't know. Everyone here gets some nerds. Let's pass around those boxes of nerds we got.

JPC

Guy in the corner with a big empty box just shaking his head wildly.

Adal

No, no. Oh, it looks like the nerds are on a delay.

00:55:43

Erin

What did you call us?

Adal

No, not you, the candy, the hard, the hard candy, the little, I was going to say the little runts, but runts is a different candy. There's so many candies. I didn't, I said runts. I called that woman a runt. 69, baby!

???

Yay!

Adal

Crab goes wild, wins it back. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

JPC

Go down light, come up heavy, never get to keep the stuff I carry. Come up heavy, go down light, nothing else to do, but that's all right. Water. It's not water, Erin, but water, I would say, is a component of the answer. But the answer's not water. What'd you say, soda?

Adal

Cement? Soda.

JPC

the show. In fact, I would say that never get to keep the stuff I carry, that's referring to the water. Sponge.

00:56:46

Adal

A sponge? It's not a sponge.

JPC

That's a really great guess. I gotta say, you guys are doing really great with your guesses today. Oh, shut up. Every time you guess, I'm like, damn, this is actually fucking close.

Erin

Crab meat.

JPC

It's crab meat!

Adal

Oh, the butter is the thing they can't. Goat and light come up heavy.

JPC

Is this like a submarine? That's just bugs from the sea, huh? Isn't that gross? Wait, what'd you say? They're just bugs that live in the sea.

Erin

You don't need to ruin seafood for me today.

JPC

And we eat them because they're like, well, they're just, but they're like bugs, but they're underwater bugs. So it's gotta be better to eat, right? But it's bugs.

Adal

I think one of the funniest things to me ever to imagine is that in the olden days they used to give lobsters to prisoners because they thought they were like disgusting, like little sea bugs. Bottom feeders, yeah. And so prisoners were like eating lobster every day for breakfast, lunch, and dinner being like, No, please stop. And they're like, nope, you got to eat these sea monsters. And they're like, no. Oh, clarified butter, please.

00:57:46

JPC

Oh, no.

Erin

Caviar and champagne for you guys.

JPC

A bunch of like butter sauce, right? Because isn't that the best? I don't eat any of these sea creatures, but isn't that the best part about it? Yeah. The best part of all seafood is the butter. But I'll be honest, that's the best part of cooking.

Erin

Butter.

JPC

Welcome to Yes.

Adal

And carries the water back out with it.

JPC

Oh, Adal, you are so fucking close. But it's not a sponge. You are so fucking close. God, you're so fucking close.

Adal

Oh, boy. It's not a sponge. What else would absorb? Is it something that absorbs water? It doesn't absorb the water.

JPC

It carries it.

Adal

It carries it.

JPC

Go down light, come up heavy. Never get to keep the stuff I carry. Come up heavy, go down light. Nothing else to do, but that's alright.

00:58:48

Erin

Like a bucket in a well.

JPC

Erin, it's not only like a bucket in a well. Erin! It is a bucket in a well.

Adal

Yeah, I do want to see a scene.

Erin

Oh, I wanted to see a scene. Go ahead.

Adal

Erin, you are the, and I'm so sorry to do this because I know your shower story. Erin, you are the ring girl who I think is at the bottom of a well, right?

Erin

Remember how people said I looked like her when I was growing up.

Adal

Oh no. GBC, you're someone who's trying to get water from the well and you can, you know, hear the ring girl and you're trying to, you're kind of annoyed versus being scared.

???

Got it. Okay. Laundry. So, going to lower the bucket into the well. And I hear the water going in, so nothing to do but pull the bucket. Oh, heavier coming up.

Erin

She's sitting in the bucket like it's a champagne glass in a burlesque routine. Hello.

???

Scream.

00:59:49

JPC

You want me to scream? You were trying to scream and what came out was the word scream.

???

Hey, you gotta stop doing this, okay? People come to this world... No. Stop! Stop! Okay, I'm putting you back down because I need more water because you splashed the water.

JPC

No, you're going back down. Don't splash this time when you come up. You're even don't why are you submerging? You know your clothes are so much heavier when you're wet. I am pulling you up. It's hard to do you spilt? Don't start.

???

Get out of the bucket.

Adal

I have to imagine she was about to launch into a full-on Tom Holland umbrella dance.

Erin

I was picturing like Dita Von Teese in her Vegas burlesque show just splashing.

01:00:50

Adal

What's the Tom Holland umbrella dance? What is that? Oh, JVC. It's maybe the greatest thing that's happened in our lifetime. The internet loves it.

Erin

He did a lip sync battle and he did umbrella.

Adal

Tom Holland and Zendaya were on LL Cool J's Lip Sync Battle show. No, I'm good. Tom Holland did a whole dance.

JPC

I'm done. I'm already here anymore.

Adal

Okay. I'm all good. It's unbelievable. It's truly one of the best things that's happened in the last 40 years. Erin, I think you have a good idea with a burlesque show with the girl from The Ring.

Erin

That's just me when I've gotten out of the shower.

JPC

That's just me on a Tuesday. Was The Ring the one with the videotape, the cassette? Yes. Oh, but she's from a well originally?

Adal

She was killed and buried in a well maybe? Awesome. Great place to do that.

Erin

Somewhere on the earth right now, there's a guy saying that having sex with me was like watching The Girl from the Ring in a burlesque show. He's saying that right now at a bar somewhere.

01:01:53

JPC

About you? If anybody's out there trying to think of a place to dispose of a body, gotta be near a water source. Oh my God. Game changer, putting a body near a water source. That's gonna be good. That'll be great for everyone. You guys wanna do one more riddle? Yes, please. Why not? Fine. It is to feel, I don't know why I said it like that, fine it is to feel when a current of water flows around me and I vibrate. Fine it is to feel when a current of air flows around me and I vibrate. The first is quiet, the second sings.

Erin

Wind chimes.

JPC

Oh, the first is quiet and that's water. Yeah, I guess that that would work for wind chimes.

Adal

That sounded like the... JPC, you sounded like the weirdest wolf. You went, oh. Oh, interesting.

JPC

I didn't eat JPC and I'm not anyone's grandmother and how delicious and all that.

Adal

Did you say Winteresting? Winteresting.

01:02:53

JPC

It is not wind chimes.

Adal

When water goes around it, it vibrates. When air goes around it, it vibrates.

JPC

Yes, but the first is quiet and the second sings.

Adal

Um... Okay.

JPC

I will say, wind chimes are a great guess, but this is something that is found in nature. It is not a... It is not something that is man-made in... Leaves?

Erin

Trees?

JPC

Leaves and trees.

Adal

Let's see. No and no.

Erin

Caves.

Adal

Caves? It's like human vocal cords?

JPC

Ah, interesting. No, it is not human vocal cords.

Adal

No one can hear you scream underwater.

JPC

That is so true. Although the little bubbles come up, and you can hear the screams from the bubbles popping.

Erin

You can hear people scream underwater. You do that thing when you go under with your cousin, and they're like, what did I say underwater? And they're like, be-ba-ba. And then you have to go up, and you have to say what you thought they said.

Adal

I would have tea parties at the bottom of the pool.

01:03:56

JPC

I've played that cousin game before. I don't know what fine it is to feel, except that the... Is this like a creature? It's not a creature, no. Something that grows, I would say. Something that grows and exists kind of in nature. You would find this in a river, probably, or a pond, a creek. Sometimes it is a person's first name. I've known at least one person with this as a first name. Brooke. It's not Brooke. Brooke is an excellent guess. It's something that would probably grow in a brook, I guess, as well.

Erin

Gross.

JPC

No?

Erin

Reads.

JPC

Erin, you are like four for four today. It is a read. Nice.

01:04:57

Erin

I'm exhausted.

JPC

And now Erin, I have a read for you. You're a Korean water ghost ass looking wet burlesque. You've been read. And you've been read, Erin. And how about that? And Casey, could you read us maybe a voicemail theme if you have one?

???

I am the very model of a muddy Mr. Monkeybones. I only speak in gibberish or slightly hunky-tonky tones. I fuck the kings of England and I drink all of their French cologne. I have a bunch of robot and I named him Little Skunky Drone. I am a very distant relative of Mr. Al Capone. I do not like to talk about it, so please just leave it alone. I'm part of SAG but I have never ever paid my union dues. I'll steal your feet right from your legs and then I'll mail you just the shoes.

JPC

Thank you to Michael for that one. That one was titled, uh, Modern Mr. Monkey Bones and the email says, Modern Mr. Monkey Bones, 30 seconds exactly, which I love. I love reading that in the email.

01:06:01

Adal

I bet that took 10 takes to get that to 30 seconds exactly.

JPC

That was excellent. Thank you so much for sending that in, Michael. Again, you can send those in, hripodcasts at gmail.com. Casey, what about a voicemail? We got one of those too?

???

Hi, my name is August and been a long time listener of the whole show for two years since, you know, COVID happening. And, you know, I have to ask you for advice if this ever gets through, but how do you guys deal with a bad roommate? Hey Riddle Riddle.

JPC

All right, just to be clear, August is not asking us how we would kill their roommate.

Erin

I was going to say August backpedaled. They were like, how do you kill them? I mean, not kill them. I don't want to incriminate myself on a Riddle podcast.

Adal

I like to think that, because there's a bit of a pause between they're like, how do you, and there's like maybe five seconds of dead air before they said the question. I like to think they were in their apartment with their roommate and they were walking to the other room. They're like, let me get out of this room.

01:07:10

JPC

Wait till the door closes before they, the kill is on their lips, but they're like, Okay, they're in, I can't say kill my roommate on the phone because they'll know what I'm talking about.

Adal

To me, I mean this worked, I mean in college especially, to me the number one thing to do, food to me is the number one way, if you fuck with someone's food, that is the best way to get them to not want to live with you anymore. Got it. So I'd recommend, wait till your roommate, hopefully they eat Oreos, wait till they buy some Oreos, preferably double stuff, if you can sort of plant that idea in their head. We're back.

JPC

That makes a lot of sense. Now, you would just eat the middle part out, right? Yeah. Okay, because I was thinking maybe you could replace it with something that would be, like, disgusting. Frozen mayonnaise?

01:08:19

Adal

Medallions of mayonnaise?

JPC

Brother, that would not work on me. I would eat a fucking mayonnaise Oreo.

Erin

Ew, ew, no.

Adal

I should say my dad won the medallion of mayonnaise in World War II, so.

JPC

I'm sorry, Erin, that I was born in the Midwest and that I would eat a mayonnaise Oreo. I'm sorry that that is a true thing about me.

Erin

Having been a bad roommate and having had bad roommates, I would say bad roommates count on one thing and they count on you not speaking up or defending yourself. Bad roommates really take advantage of people not liking conflict and not saying things out loud. So I would say be so honest constantly and Be like, really stick up for yourself because one of two things will happen. They'll get freaked out and they'll move out or they'll change their behavior. Don't be like passive aggressive and leaving notes and sighing when things happen. Be like, hey, this really upset me. I think it's messed up and you've done it a lot and I've asked you not to. And I think either way you will land in a better place.

01:09:22

JPC

Yeah, I think that's a very good thing to remember is that people sometimes worry about, well, I don't want to blow up my spot and make my home life difficult. But it sounds like your home life is already difficult, right? Because if you've got a person not respecting you, kind of walking all over you, it's like, what do you have to lose at that point? You have to think practically. I would say that also, we live in some bad times. But feel free to weaponize that to your advantage. So what I would do is I would go find your roommate's wallet or ID or something. Go ahead, throw that away. Then call immigration on them and just Hey Riddle Riddle. Pretty unpleasant things. So, you know, just keep that in mind if you feel like you want to weaponize the current situation to your advantage out there. And I hope nobody evil is listening to this because that advice could be really pretty terrible extreme. You know what, Casey, go ahead and bleep everything that I said.

01:10:29

Erin

Just to be safe, the whole episode.

Adal

Let's talk about how to get rid of a bad Santa, Thornton, or a bad teacher, Cameron Diaz. Erin, do you have anything you'd like to plug?

Erin

Yes, I actually would. I want to plug, and this is going to sound so insane, but The Viv, which is a hotel in Anaheim, California. I was recently evacuated during the Los Angeles fires.

JPC

Not recently.

Erin

I'm going to put some links in the bio of this episode of places that you can donate and help out.

JPC

Well, this is my episode, Erin, and it comes out way after the fire.

Erin

Oh yeah, we'll probably be all set by then. The city will be rebuilt and everyone will sort of be okay by the time this comes out. I was super stressful with a dog because a lot of the Airbnbs and hotels don't allow for pets and animals, especially ones of Lou's size. But the Viv in Anaheim, it's right next to Disneyland. If you're ever planning a trip to Southern California or ever going to Disneyland, please give them your business because they were so hospitable and weren't taking advantage of the amount of people that were displaced. They were giving people resources. Every single person was so kind to me. And I had an incredible stay. And I just, it really was like a lovely bit of golden light in a very stressful week. So please give The Viv in Anaheim your business.

01:12:02

Adal

That's great. Is that VIV?

Erin

Yep. And the food was incredible. Like I ate three meals there and it was like unbelievable. I would go there on staycation if I ever do that in LA. It is like 10 out of 10. They're so good there. So please give them your business.

Adal

Noice.

Erin

Adal, anything to plug?

Adal

Yes, I want to plug Hello From The Magic Tavern. You can listen to that wherever you find podcasts. It's a term we have to say. We also have a Patreon, patreon.com slash magic tavern. So if you have patrons, go check out our Hey Riddle Riddle Patreon, patreon.com slash Hey Riddle Riddle. Some of our favorite episodes and content over there. And JPC, do you have a review to read?

JPC

Oh boy, you know I would love to read my ass a little bit of a review. Uh, this one's coming from craigrex01. If you have a review that you would like to be submitted on the- or read on the show, submit one wherever you leave five-star reviews. I might read yours. Hey, this week I'm reading this one. Explain this, Hey Riddle Riddle. Hey Pop, can I have some money? asked Dana. The Electric Ear Splitters are giving a concert here in town next week and I really want to hear it. His father put- Famously the first riddle we've ever done. From the blue book, right? Yeah.

01:13:39

Erin

Whoa.

JPC

I guess if you want to hear that riddle explained, listen to the show Hey Riddle Riddle. You can kind of start from the beginning and you'll probably get to it pretty quickly.

Erin

I was 26 years old.

JPC

That can't be right. And now you don't look a day over 40.

Erin

Well, I'm 33.

JPC

Well, then what I said is awesome.

Erin

Jupiter, let's not make this any longer than it needs to be.

???

I'm frightened to record the podcast today because JPC is in a mood.

???

Okay, time.gov, let's go at 45. Your favorite president. Wow.

01:14:45

JPC

Time. Great. Would it be worth it, Casey, to just make us sit in silence for like five extra seconds just to say 50? Just to say like a number that doesn't have a president yet? I feel like you do it to yourself sometimes. Okay. Like you see 45 and you say, let's go.

???

Okay, hold on. Many times I have said numbers that are not presidents and you guys find a way to say my favorite president. So don't act like this is on me.

Adal

Every number's a president. Every number's a president, Casey. It all circles back. I mean, 48 through 60 will be Trump.

Erin

The next 20 are Trump, guys.

Adal

Let's be so for real. Yes, 100%.

JPC

Eric's to Barron's. Hey there raccoons and gators, if you liked that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. We bring you to W99.5 The Bog for some radio station improv. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com slash heyriddleriddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your 7 day free trial or the review crew for $8 a month plus you get those ad free episodes. See you there!

Erin

That was a hate gum podcast.