Which Riddle Riddle?

#324: Rambling Goo w/ Brendan Jennings and Mark Raterman

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00:01:22

Erin

Okay, gentlemen, your first course is the podcast Hey Riddle Riddle prepared by our chef. It is served over a bed of rice, and I have some Parmesan cheese I can put on top. You just have to tell me when.

JPC

This has the affect of a fancy restaurant, but it feels like it's a bed of rice with parmesan cheese.

Erin

Yeah, I mean, it's the chef made it. It's a podcast. It's a nice podcast.

JPC

Throw it under the bush.

Erin

The chef made it.

Adal

See, there's headphones that accompany this dish. Should I put those on?

Erin

Yes. It's an audio and taste experience. We like to attack your senses here.

JPC

Yeah, we'll do the check.

Erin

What?

JPC

We'll just do the audio check. Yeah, the audio check.

Erin

Is it because this is a burned-down Chuck E. Cheese? Is it the food? Is it me? Yeah, yeah.

JPC

I mean, you go to a burned-down Chuck E. Cheese, you hope it's gonna be like a sex thing. This is a restaurant, not really what we were looking for.

00:02:24

Adal

And that's, we mean no offense by that animatronic bird in a cheerleading outfit. Of course, of course.

Erin

Okay, well, if I can't introduce you in this, you could just go outside, take the headphones with you, listen to the podcast.

JPC

No, we won't be doing that either, I don't think. Okay, great. Yeah.

Erin

Great. All right. If you could give us a five-star review on Yelp, that would be really, really helpful.

JPC

I'm happy to do that, for sure. Fool the next guy, who cares?

Adal

But I will say I was excited when I heard about this dish, because I heard that this dish actually has two very special ingredients. Guests, if you will.

Erin

It's true.

Adal

You might know these farm-fresh ingredients from one of my favorite shows of all time, Cook County Social Club, the improv team. Or you might know them from their work on I Think You Should Leave on Netflix, or from their upcoming phenomenal podcast, Get It to Dutch. It's Mark Raterman and Brendan Jennings. Boom, we were at the eggs.

00:03:24

Erin

They were suffocating in there. My God, we got them just in time.

???

Nobody ordered the eggs. It was not introduced. The Chuck E. Cheese eggs were... Yeah. That's what they're known for, right? Yeah.

Adal

You must get the eggs at Chuck E. Cheese.

???

That's so gross.

Guest1

Thank you for having us. We're so excited. Well, I'm excited, but I'm speaking on behalf of Mark. He's excited too. Speak for yourself.

Adal

I am excited. I am excited. Thank you so much for doing this. Now you two, Brendan, you're in L.A. Mark, you're in Chicago.

???

That's right.

Adal

How are you two doing? Welcome to October, by the way. And what is your relationship with riddles, puzzles, lateral thinking problems, escape rooms, crosswords, daily New York Times games? What do you think of games and puzzles?

???

I love puzzles. I do New York Times puzzles daily. I've gotten in trouble with my wife for doing the crossword too much. So, yeah. Love em. Riddles are kind of a different story, but games and puzzles for sure. What are lateral thinking problems?

00:04:33

Adal

The example I always give for a lateral thinking problem is, very quickly, there's a cabin in the woods, everyone inside the cabin is dead, they all died the same way. There's snow on the ground in front of the cabin, but there's no... Well, that's also an answer to a lateral thinking problem, but it's a thing of like everyone thinks it's a house, it's a cabin, it's a log cabin, whatever, but it turns out it's the cabin of an airplane. So lateral thinking is just like... Yeah. All right.

???

He loves it.

Adal

You have to sort of take a macro view of everything. What's up?

???

Brendan's going to do a lot of listening during the Riddle portion.

Guest1

I'm just going to cackle and be so overjoyed. I'm a simpleton.

00:05:38

JPC

I hate to do this, but I have to go back to something that Mark said. Mark, you said that you got in trouble with your wife for doing too many crosswords. And as a person who has recently gotten in trouble with his wife for doing too many crosswords, what exactly was the nature of this getting in trouble? Were you doing crosswords when you were supposed to be? Hey Riddle

???

We have kids, and so you gotta take care of kids. I don't know. That shouldn't be news to anybody. So, you know, you can get lost. I generally don't get lost in my phone. And this idea, he has kids are baby goats, right?

Erin

Is that lateral thinking? Yes!

???

That is! They're kangaroos. We have a kangaroo farm. But so yeah, I mean, I get so immersed in the crossword, they're really fun. The New York Times, the Sunday, you know, they have the big books, the collection of Sunday crosswords.

00:06:38

JPC

For sure.

???

So yeah, at one point my wife was like, you have to put that book down. And be a father to these children.

Erin

Do you do the mini every day? Or do you do the full one?

???

I don't do the mini. No, I do strands.

Erin

Love strands.

???

Which is the new one. And I do connections and I do wordle. And sometimes I do letterboxed, which I find to be the hardest one. Yeah. But the mini, yeah, the mini's like... I also like KenKen, I think KenKen's really fun and that they have in the actual print edition, but you can't find it, or at least I can't find it on the app.

JPC

I don't think they have it on the app.

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They don't have it on the app.

JPC

Yeah. Yeah, I do the crossword on the app every day and I've only been doing it for like a month and I just like picked it up randomly and my wife is like, huh, we're still doing the crossword, right? Maybe we put the phone down, we stop doing the crossword.

???

Maybe I'll just throw my streak in the fucking garbage. Does that mean nothing to you? It tells you how many days in a row you've played. I cannot let the app down.

00:07:40

Guest1

This is how many days I ignored you.

Adal

And Brendan, what's your relationship with Riddles?

Guest1

I love them. I'm not good at them. I do a lot of puzzle stuff. I love crosswords. Again, not great at them. I do the LA Times and they have their little app. They have a little thing that you start putting in things wrong now. There's a little X. I like that. I want to be told I'm not going down this well for no reason.

???

It's basically like the gutter rails in a bowling alley.

Guest1

I'm really good at Mondays and Tuesdays. Wednesday on, just hold my hand and tell me what to do.

???

I'm old school. I like to write it on the paper. I've gotten into this tap in a way.

Guest1

I like it. I like the tactile feel.

Erin

But isn't it a mess though when you have to erase?

???

Oh, I don't erase. There's no erasing. You gotta draw over it to make it look like you tried to do that letter the first time.

00:08:45

Erin

I thought you just meant that you got it right away. You seemed like a cowboy for a second.

Guest1

Did we just meet Michael Jordan? That was amazing.

???

I mean, yeah, at your best, maybe you can use the felt tip pen and not cross it off. I have a lot of thick letters at the end of it.

JPC

Yeah, I feel like the downfall for me with crosswords is that every once in a while I know how to spell a word except I think an E is an A or like an O is a U or some shit like that. So I'll get to the end of the crossword and they'll be like, sorry man, you just didn't do it today. And I'll be like, fuck you, I know that there's one, I know there's like streak and I spelled it with two Es somewhere in this fucking puzzle.

???

That's the joy of doing it in the paper is that you just put a schwa in there. You don't know what the vowel is. You're like, I get it.

JPC

I'm close enough. I know the fucking word.

Erin

Also, when you do it in the paper, there's no confirmation right away if you got it right. You can just go on your day and pretend you got the whole thing right.

Guest1

Yeah, you got to Google the dork who does it every day and he tells you.

00:09:47

Erin

Yeah, get him.

Guest1

I did it in two minutes. Fuck you. Sorry, can I curse on this?

Erin

Yeah.

Guest1

Oh, yeah.

JPC

Oh Mark, you're good. Erin, no cursing for you.

???

And Adal, you can say... I can say these three words.

Erin

Well, should we get into it? I, as a way to sort of soften the blow, we have a lot of like word puzzles today and not as many riddles.

Adal

Okay, cool.

Erin

Okay. And these first ones come from a person who didn't give me permission to use their name. So shout out to you if you sent these in. Hey, hey Riddle Riddle. The answer to each of the following riddles will be a band name that has the words and the in the title. They are all real band names with the words and the. Example, Catfish and the Bottlemen. It's not a real band name, but the words and in the forced in. Example, Rascal and the Flats. Does that make sense? When I start doing these, it'll make sense.

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Okay.

Erin

Let's just jump into them. Clue 1. A lever, pulley, or screw in the capital of Tuscany.

00:10:51

???

Okay, now, okay, Tuskegee has a capital. Can I guess? Italy, obviously. Florence and the Machine.

Guest1

Yes.

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Wow.

Guest1

Wow. Brandon, where were you on that? Because we're guests, every time Mark gets it right, I get it right too. That's right. Yeah. You guys are a team. Good one, Mark. I was going to say that too.

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I knew you were. That's why I tried to jump in right away, because I always thought you were going to beat me.

Erin

An exotic fish making an owl noise.

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Oh, I guess this one's got to be Darius Rucker's Odie and the Blowfish.

Erin

Yes! Wow. Again! You got... I had on JPC. You guys are supposed to be faster than this.

JPC

Well, I said it. JPC had it. He just dragged his feet. I wanted to put some frills on it. It's true.

???

I knew where you were going.

JPC

Darius Rucker is also a great name. I love that name.

Erin

Pretty good. The empty attraction of acute Edward.

???

Vapid. Oh, Empty Attraction. Vapid, great.

00:11:52

Erin

This one's hard.

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Edward Sharp and Magnetic Zeros.

Erin

Yeah. I said it was hard and then you got it.

Guest1

Come from my boy. He's falling out to the streets and he wants to challenge anyone out there.

JPC

I am absolutely not familiar with Edward Sharp and the Magnetic Zeros. What are they saying?

Erin

I'm like fucking Dr. Spotify over here.

???

Yeah, that song is huge. A lot of car commercials. I want to say that there's not a the in there. I think it's Edward Sharp and Magnetic Zeros.

Erin

I think there is a the.

Guest0

Alabama, Arkansas.

JPC

I can look it up. That's them. Oh, so they're the band that does the car commercials.

Erin

That's exactly right. Okay.

Adal

I do want to see a scene.

Erin

Oh, okay. Go ahead.

Adal

And Mark, you two are a couple who does jingles for cars, for car commercials. And JPC, you're the producer today behind the boards, trying to help them get through a couple car ads. Gotcha.

00:12:55

???

All right. So, hey, just want to let you know, Gare, we're having some trouble with the Honda Civic. Yeah, we tried a couple things out, but nothing's really sticking.

JPC

It's not necessary, and I don't know if you got this in the copy, it's not necessary to rhyme Civic, because I think that's going to be almost an impossible task.

Erin

Okay, I wish you had told us that last night because we've been fighting for like 16 hours.

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I don't want to say fighting. Why do you say fighting? We're not fighting.

JPC

Hey, hey, hey. It feels like fighting. This one's on me. This was my fault. Gary's going to own this one completely.

Erin

Gary, we can't keep blaming our fights on you. It's not fair to you.

???

I don't consider them fights, OK? Because by the end, we have some resolution. We have some compromise. Like, yeah, it gets heated. I'm not going to lie to you.

Erin

Jeff, we're fighting about the word fight right now. Do you see what's happening to us? This isn't a fight.

JPC

It's not a fight.

00:13:55

Erin

Why do you say fight? It feels like a fight. If it looked like a fight, it acts like a fight.

JPC

And it is my fault, OK? Because I know I'm just a producer, but I could pick a restaurant, OK? I know I'm not invited to pick the restaurant, but I could give my input. And the fact that I held that back, that's on me. And so I want you to focus all this passion that you guys have for each other.

Erin

Gary, stop taking the blame. You don't have to keep doing this.

???

And what does this have to do with restaurants, Gary?

JPC

Nothing. This has nothing to do with restaurants. I haven't been in a restaurant with either one of you in such a long time.

Erin

And he's talking about the fight from yesterday where we couldn't pick a restaurant and then we got into a huge fight about it. And now Gary thinks he should have picked the restaurant.

???

Gary, I got a question. Does limit rhyme with civic?

Erin

And be honest.

JPC

My honest opinion.

???

Just knee jerk. Go. 1, 2, 3, go.

JPC

My honest opinion is no it does not. No it does not is my honest opinion.

00:15:02

???

They're not fights!

JPC

We are three weeks behind, okay? The Civic is out. The Civic is out. The Civic is selling like hotcakes, okay? But there's no jungle.

Erin

Okay, answer this question. Riddle me this, Gary. Does Civic rhyme with Hivic? And is Hivic a word?

???

There's a one right answer, Gary. Please don't make me get involved, okay?

Erin

And this is you choosing between the two of us.

???

I'm gonna say there's two right answers to this one.

Erin

um to two questions it's two it's a question it's a two-part

JPC

Yes, it rhymes. That's the first part. And I'm getting a shaking no from both of you. I got that one wrong?

Erin

Yeah.

???

Hivic and Civic rhyme. Hivic and Civic rhyme.

Erin

And we didn't even have to sing. My favorite kind of singing. Oh, thank God.

JPC

That's bullshit. God damn it.

Erin

Oh, man.

JPC

How dare you try to trick me in an improv scene to make you not sing.

Adal

Brendan sent me a text and said, Hey Adal, can I chime in and sing Help Me Honda?

00:16:05

Guest0

This is, I think, slightly after your guys' time.

???

JPC, you might have been a victim to this, but we've all been through the IO machine, so you'll find this relatable. One time in, like, 2016, Sharna, like, woke up.

Erin

And like decided that she wanted to fix how people were doing heralds. And she made us all go and do a workshop with her. And it was like four herald teams at a time. And it was mostly about how we should be singing more. Some of the most painful moments of my life were in that room. JPC, do you did you have to do that?

JPC

Yes, I had to do it, so of course I did not do it.

???

Okay, perfect. You might know this, Adal for sure and Brendan, you would know this, that the old trick was if your team was about to get cut and Sharna was going to come watch your show to sort of determine whether you should get cut or not, you would sing a song at some point and then she would come out back afterwards and be like, you guys are great, we're going to extend you guys on the schedule. So this is way before 2016, but everyone already knew, like, we got... Alright, get your voices ready tonight.

00:17:29

Guest1

We're very close to the bloodbath.

Erin

This will buy us another year.

???

This will be on the schedule.

JPC

We have two people on this 10-person team that can sing, so they're going to be doing a majority of the show tonight. We're her dogs going on stage while you were trying to do improv characters?

???

stories and either you took classes and you would do scenes with her dogs or you were Upstairs at the Del Close and yeah, do you think that made us better or worse? That was another one early on you kind of like sweated through it because it's like well if I fucking crush the scene with the dog I'm gonna be here forever Dude, if you had pitched dog prob to Sharna you would have never you would have gone on every night of the week singing dog prob automatic

Adal

Also in the old cabaret theater downstairs, the challenge of a new Herald team was like, don't let the audience be able to hear a frozen pizza ding from the oven. So there's a popcorn machine in a frozen pizza oven, whatever that is. And if you could hear the ding of the pizza being done, you knew your team was going to get cut.

00:18:49

Erin

The bartender makes like a cutting gesture from the back. That's so sad. Oh, we got a couple more of these. Okay. The reptilian magicians encounter the Emperor of Turkeys. When this man free fell, he landed on a major organ, destroying it.

JPC

Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

Erin

Yeah, I'd like to see a scene. The four of you are Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, you can decide who's Tom Petty, and it's like right before you record Free Fallen.

???

Tom, um, quick question, bud. What, uh, what's this one about?

Adal

Yeah, Tom, I had the same question. Yeah, Tom, Tom, what is, uh, I got the lyrics, but what is this one about?

JPC

I got the lyrics. Well, actually, all I got was my part. Which is just tambourine on this one and I was wondering if maybe I could... Let me guys ask you something. You guys ask you something.

00:19:52

Guest1

Is this band called Tom Petty and the guys who ask him fucking questions?

Adal

No sir. No sir. No sir.

Guest1

So then let's just jangle jangle this thing out and get out of here.

Adal

Hey guys. Hey guys. Yeah. I feel like when he was in the Traveling Wilbur he was like, you know he didn't talk to Roy Orbison this way. I feel like we should make a stand.

JPC

I mean, we're all replaceable. What are we going to do? We're not even like the Heartbreakers.

Erin

Alright, let's do this thing.

JPC

Oh, shoot. Jesus Christ. Okay, here we go.

Erin

Alright, Tom Brady and the Heartbreakers, if you fall in, take one.

Guest1

I'm a bad boy, talking about mama's little baby with a horseshoe foot. I can't. Where's the bass?

Erin

Okay, and cut. Yeah, sorry. Tom, we didn't count anyone in. You sort of just jumped into it. I feel like not really sure what you're singing.

00:20:53

Guest1

Who's this? When we did Will Barrett's man, we just went. This is Phil Spector, the audio engineer. Yeah, my name's Phil. Wallace Sound. You're a great man. Nothing bad's ever gonna happen to you.

Erin

Thanks, man.

Guest1

Say it back.

JPC

Say it back or something might happen to him. Say it back, Phil.

Erin

Are we married to the lyric, little baby with a horseshoe foot?

Guest1

Are we married to that? I'm going to correct all that afterwards. That's all going to get green screened in. I'm going to fix all that on the green screen.

JPC

Tom, you mentioned where's the bass. Again, you have me playing the tambourine on this one. I'm usually the bass guy. Would you mind?

Guest1

I want you jingling, jangling. I want someone else playing bass. That's how you did it in the Wilburys, man. Everybody was doing something different. I guess. That's what I want to capture on this record, man.

00:21:55

Adal

I want everyone to know Tom was the wildest Wilbury. Okay. Yeah, I'll play like a Jeff Lynne-esque guitar riff for this next one.

Erin

And take two. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Free Fallin', and action.

Guest1

Two, three, four. There's a bad boy holding up Elvis. He's a guy out here rambling goo.

Guest0

Hey guys, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck is that about? Rambling Goo? A guy who's holding up Elvis? Like a bank robbery?

Erin

Let's just cut there really quick. You guys, you're mostly shrugging. You're not really playing your instruments. It's a lot of shrugging. So the sound's dropping in and out. Also, Tom, I know we had a deal. You promised you'd let me know if you got another head injury. You promised. You pinky promised even.

Guest1

These boys tried to kill me man. Bob Dylan and George Harrison had each one of my legs and they dangled me out of an aeroplane. Tom.

00:23:05

Guest0

Tom.

Guest1

Tom. Tom. Tom. Good boy, TP. I fell out of an airplane. Low height, man. Fell through clouds. Is that what this is about? Were you free-falling? Was it like a free-fall report? Oh no, this is about how relationships gotta get away from you.

???

Oh.

Erin

Okay, take three. And rolling.

???

Can somebody count us in? It doesn't have to be you, Tom. I just don't know when I'm supposed to start with this name shaker.

Guest1

And a one, and a two, and a three, and a four, and here we go. One more time. I'm an old man hanging out south side, printing goat head. Got into my soup.

Erin

Cut, print, perfect.

Adal

Perfect. And that was how Rolling Stone's Goat Head Soup was recorded.

Erin

They were in the room next door.

Adal

Uh-huh.

Erin

I know it's a little early but I think we gotta take a break there because I'm exhausted from laughing. So we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be back right after these messages. Adal GPC, have you noticed my new business suit? Whoa, Erin, suspenders?

00:24:20

JPC

Wow, Erin, that's going to look even better when you're wearing it. Exactly. But laid out on the bed like this, you look tall.

Erin

Thank you so much. I'm an entrepreneur. I'm an entrepreneur.

JPC

Erin, what is this change in you? Something is new. What is going on?

Erin

Well, I discovered Found. It's business banking designed for small business owners just like me, an entrepreneur.

JPC

Just like me as well, huh?

Erin

Yeah, I guess just like you as well, but...

JPC

Yeah, isn't Found designed for small businesses and solo entrepreneurs, so it's, in my opinion, the only financial tool you need? Shouldn't you say goodbye to switching between multiple finance apps and tools, Erin?

Erin

Oh, so you've heard about it.

Adal

Yeah, I have. Now, Erin, obviously you wear the pants in the group, but correct me if I'm wrong, Found is the all-in-one, easy-to-use app. Found lets you manage your financial tasks effortlessly, manage your money, track your spending, buy suits and suspenders, invoice your clients, and even handle your taxes so you can focus on running your business?

Erin

So I'm not the only entrepreneur. I'm not the only entrepreneur.

00:25:24

JPC

She keeps saying the word. I don't know if she knows what it means. With Found, you'll save hundreds or even thousands of dollars on bank fees and app subscriptions because Found has no hidden fees, no account maintenance fees, no minimum balances, and there's no paperwork or credit checks when signing up.

Erin

And you can instantly send professional invoices and pay your contractors for free. Check out some of Found's 30,000 positive customer reviews. I thought I was the only entrepreneur. And see why over 500,000 small business owners like me chose Found. I thought I was the only entrepreneur.

Adal

So if you want to be an ontypreneur, or whatever Erin is saying, try Found for free at found.com slash riddle. Sign up for Found for free today at f-o-u-n-d dot com slash riddle. Found is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services are provided by Pyrmont. Bank member FDIC. Found's core features are free. They also offer an optional paid product, Found Plus.

Erin

I'm an ontypreneur.

Adal

I think she thinks it's a sandwich.

00:26:25

Erin

It's not?

JPC

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Adal

Hi, Erin, GPC. I would like to formally invite the two of you to be my dates for the local square dance. Oh, wow. You printed up an invitation and everything. This looks very professional, Adal. And I'm wearing a little cowboy outfit, and we like that.

Erin

Oh, and I see that you made a website using Squarespace, AdalRifaiSquaredancingPartyVeryReal.com.

Adal

Try to keep it succinct.

JPC

Adal Rifai, Square Dan, Erin, Harold, help me out at any time with this?

Erin

Adal Rifai, Square Dan, VeryRealSquareDanParty.com. Yes.

00:27:27

Adal

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Erin

Uh-huh. And it also looks like you can upload video content, organize your video library, and showcase your content on beautiful video pages. You can even sell access to your video library by adding a paywall to your content. Look, I'm going to play this video. Oh, it's you teaching us how to square dance.

Adal

All right, everyone, addle up and ride.

Erin

You're crying pretty hard.

JPC

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Adal

Hmm. It looks like I'm crying in the video because not enough people know about Squarespace.

00:28:29

JPC

Hmm. Yeah. It actually kind of looks like you got square dance in your eye. That's why you're crying.

Adal

I don't know how you get square dance in your eye. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, it looks like that's what it was.

JPC

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Adal

Erin, do-si-do.

Erin

Okay, I will be there, Adal. I will be your date. GPC, you coming?

JPC

No.

Erin

Great.

JPC

This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Erin

Oh my gosh, you guys are dressed like a skeleton and a zombie. It really freaked me out.

JPC

What? Oh my god. Look at what we're wearing.

Adal

Oh, yeah, I have brains on the outside today.

JPC

Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I had chicken wings before this and did an awful job cleaning up.

Erin

Well, you guys look super scary, but can I tell you what's even scarier?

00:29:30

JPC

What's that? I'd love to hear.

Erin

Some of the stuff that I'm facing in my own life.

JPC

You're talking about like fears and anxieties and stuff like that, right?

Erin

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

JPC

Big time.

Erin

And therapy is a great tool for facing your fears and finding ways to overcome them. That's why I use BetterHelp.

JPC

Oh, now BetterHelp, Erin, that's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule, right? It's the one where you just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist and switch therapists at any time for no additional charge? If you're thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try? That's BetterHelp?

Erin

Uh, yeah, sorry, what did you say you had for breakfast?

JPC

Well, it wasn't really breakfast, it was chicken wings, it was a couple days ago. So you're no longer a vegetarian? Okay, so it was chicken wings, and I'm spelling it K-H-I-C, it's like a cute, kitschy, there's bones in it, though.

Erin

I use BetterHelp, and that kind of therapy works so much better for my brain. Being able to message my counselor anytime when things are actually happening is so helpful for my mental health.

Adal

Ooh, yeah, and therapy, especially this time of year, can help you learn to accept all parts of you so you can take off that mask. Not the Halloween mask, but the other mask. Because masks should be for Halloween fun, but not for our emotions.

00:30:41

JPC

And also, therapy isn't just for addressing one specific thing. It's for helping you learn positive coping skills that you can use all across your life. It's about setting boundaries and then deciding where to employ those boundaries.

Erin

So overcome your fears with BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com slash Riddle today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash Riddle, R-I-D-D-L-E.

Adal

Erin, what are you going for for Halloween? What are you going as?

Erin

I'm dressed like a witch right now. You guys didn't notice? Oh.

JPC

Okay, let's move on.

???

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00:32:03

Erin

All right, so we are back from break and we have Portugal and the Man. No, we're done with those riddles. Unfortunately, I'm sorry, we finished those. But if you have ones like that, please submit them to hrrpodcast.gml.com. Speaking of emails from listeners, these are from Matt. And these are famously dubbed the Anthony Birch-esque riddles. Friend of the show Anthony Birch was listening to the back catalog and heard Anthony's pop chain riddles and wrote you some.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Thanks for the show. So here's a warm up for reminders. American Pie to Beauty and the Beast. And we have to get between those two titles. So the middle one would be American Beauty. So it'd be American Pie, American Beauty, Beauty and the Beast.

Adal

We'll just tell your mother that you ate the pie. Erin, remember that line?

Erin

No.

Adal

We'll just tell your mother we ate the pie.

Erin

Is that from Beauty and the Beast?

Adal

Eugene Levy?

00:33:04

Erin

When the clock fucks that pie?

JPC

Beauty and the Beast is like, well tell your mother you ate the clock.

Erin

Okay, the first one. The Dark Knight to Naked and Afraid.

JPC

Okay, this has got to be the movie Naked Knight, which, that has to be like a Jason Bateman movie, right? I'm thinking like early 2000s?

Erin

Yes. No. No, that's not true. Fuck. That's nothing. That's nonsense.

JPC

Naked Lunch, Dark Knight to Naked... And it's one movie that has like, so if it's Dark Knight, it'll have like dark or night in it.

Erin

And then it will have afraid or naked in it.

Adal

Are you afraid of the dark?

Erin

Is that a movie? Yeah, it's kind of close. Reword it. Are you afraid of the dark? Are you afraid of the dark? To Naked and Afraid.

JPC

They made a movie out of that?

???

Yes.

Erin

The next one is The Great Mouse Detective to Good Will Hunting.

Adal

The Great Mouse Detective.

00:34:05

JPC

This is harder for me personally to say.

Erin

I'm not sure what this movie is.

JPC

That's never good. Detective Goodwill.

Erin

Detective Goodwill hunting?

Guest0

I do need to see a scene.

Adal

Is this mouse hunting? I gotta see a scene. GBC, you are in need of help and you have hired Brendan who is, what was it, detective? Detective Goodwill. Detective Goodwill.

JPC

Yeah, so as you can see, this is where my mother keeps her jewelry. I can see that.

Guest1

Just a little levity. I'm sorry she's dead. She looks like a fine woman.

JPC

No, no. Uh, yeah. Oh, I appreciate that. She is, she's not dead. Uh, she's alive. Um, but her jewelry's missing.

Guest1

Oh, I should've been here.

JPC

I should've been here.

Guest1

I only, I saw dead people.

JPC

Oh, I, I'm sorry, Detective Goodwill. I, I was under the impression that you, this is a robbery and you, you also did, you did robbery as well.

00:35:08

Guest1

I don't do that anymore. That's what I did when I was coming up, when I was a junior detective Goodwill. Now I only do bodies. They tell me stories. The body's telling you stories. Oh yeah, I got a thing. I sit with the body all night long and I kind of figure it out. Me and the body.

JPC

My mother was here when it... I'm not sure if you could do like an interview instead, because she's alive.

Guest1

She's alive? The thing on the bed?

JPC

Yikes.

Guest1

Am I talking too loud?

JPC

No, she's awake. Mom, you're awake, right? Yeah, I'm awake.

Guest1

That's only happened once before.

Erin

So I mean, I'm a little bit under the weather. I have a cold. That's why I'm in bed. But I didn't know I didn't think I looked like a corpse. My jewelry got stolen.

Guest1

Oh, someone stole your jewelry. That's terrible, man.

Erin

Yeah.

Guest1

May I ask, have you been seeing any suitors?

Erin

Um, no, I mean, my husband died a few years back, and I've been kind of alone. Lonely, you could say, since then.

Guest1

Let me ask you a question. When he passed, did he reach out and grab jewelry off your neck and yank it into the grave with him?

00:36:13

JPC

He did. But that was years ago.

Guest1

That was years ago.

JPC

No, we got that back. Oh, okay. Yeah, we got it out of the grave after he yanked it.

Guest1

What are we missing now? Like a big pendant with your initials on it? Yeah, exactly. Snoop Doggy dog chain? Yeah, both. Do they look like this?

???

Yeah, they look the same. That's them.

Guest1

Oh my gosh. You're not gonna believe this. When I came in here thinking I was looking for a dead body, I done picked them up. I done picked them up and put them on. That's the thing. I do detective work. When you come in and you find a body, it's a free go. You're allowed to take whatever you want. You like the shoes they're wearing?

Erin

Are you sure about that, Detective Goodwill?

Guest1

Oh yeah, that's why you get into the detective game. My whole house is furnished with dead people shit.

Erin

Yeah, you're jingling and jangling. What else did you take from us, Detective Goodwill?

Guest1

I got these nipple rings that you had. I put those right in. Didn't have piercings.

00:37:15

JPC

I don't know. I don't think those are ours, Detective Goodwill.

Erin

You're bleeding through your shirt.

Guest1

They're very cool. See, one of them's Smurfette, and the other one's Brighty Smurf. They're both Smurfette.

Erin

Oh, brother. Okay. Imagine not feeling well.

Adal

Imagine not feeling well. Somebody comes in the room and says the thing, calls you the thing on the bed. Man.

Erin

Man, that sucks. That would hurt my confidence. That would rattle me a little bit.

Guest1

There's a good chance that all of us one day will be a thing on the bed. Mix it up. A really good chance.

Erin

So this I'm having a moment where I feel like I've jumped timelines After looking up what this middle movie is and I'm gonna let you guys know but you you're all a tiny bit older than me So this might be familiar to you. I'll give you a hint. It came out 26.

Guest1

We're all 26. You're all This one this movie came out in 1997 I

00:38:15

Adal

97. And remind us the two movies again?

Erin

Yes, the movies are The Great Mouse Detective to Good Will Hunting. Christopher Walken's in it, Nathan Lane is in it.

Adal

Oh, The Birdcage.

Erin

No.

Adal

Mouse Trap.

Erin

Yeah, no, Mouse... Oh, Mouse Trap. Not Trap.

JPC

Oh, Mouse... I feel like I know that Nathan Lane was in a mouse movie. Mouse Hunt?

Erin

Yes, it's Mouse Hunt. It's a slapstick black comedy.

Guest1

I do remember it, it's very funny.

Erin

It is?

Guest1

Yeah, it is good. My kids used to watch it all the time.

Erin

Oh my god!

Guest1

It's like a Disney kind of thing. Is that what it was? Yeah, it's like somebody buys a house and the mouse is very goofy. He makes them do silly things. It's like Home Alone with a mouse.

Erin

Yeah, it looks like Home Alone with a mouse. Huh.

JPC

That was the pitch. What was it, 97? Yeah, that makes sense.

Erin

Yeah. Okay, cool. I'd like to see a scene. Adal and Mark, you are in Mouse Hunt, and whatever your best guess at what that movie is, give me a scene from it.

00:39:20

Adal

Sure. All right, it's time to put all our cards on the table. We're both in love with this mouse. Alright, we just have to be gentlemen about it. One of us has to bow out. Okay. Well, I think it should be you. I think it should be you. Okay. Okay, let's maybe do like a pros cons list. So I'll go first. What I bring to the mouse would be steady job.

???

Oh, low blow, Dave. Low blow, right out of the gate? Fine, okay. I bring freedom and spontaneity. Okay, interesting for a temp.

Guest1

Ding dong, did somebody order a pizza?

Adal

Oh, the mouse is here, the mouse is here.

Guest1

Here we go, here we go. I've got a pizza for one Mr. J2 Mouse.

00:40:22

Guest0

That's my best Christopher Walken, by the way. Okay, let's open the door here. Oh! Hi. Hello. Hello. I got a pizza. You sound a lot like Detective Goodwill. Yeah, have you seen that movie, Detective Goodwill? Detective Goodwill?

Guest1

Hurry up, we got more pizzas to deliver!

Adal

That's Nathan Lane. That's... Wait, why is Nathan Lane driving you around? Do you not have a license?

Guest1

I lost my license.

Erin

Christopher, you promised if you had a head injury you had to say, you had to tell us if you had a head injury before coming on to set.

Guest1

Last night I was out with Al Pacino and De Niro and they hung me one leg out of the other of an airplane.

Erin

I can't hear this excuse again, Christopher Walken.

Guest1

Was it for a movie?

Guest0

Hey guys, hey guys. Yeah, what's up? I feel like Walken has lost a step, right?

00:41:25

Guest1

You're telling me. He's driving me crazy.

Adal

Nathan. Oh, Nathan, yeah, come on in here.

Guest1

Yeah, Nathan, you're doing great.

???

You're, I mean, infallible. You're with him the most. I mean, do you feel like maybe we should get him some help or something? He's just non-stop rambling.

Guest1

He's insane. He thinks the little blue dog-eye voice on that cartoon here in 1997 is real. Tell us the name of the show. I can't remember. Teacher's Pet. Teacher's Pet, I think.

Erin

Oh my god. Okay.

Guest1

Do you guys remember when Sharna had that workshop where they taught people to come in and ruin improv scenes?

???

Called Walk On, Walk On, Walk On, Walk On. Sweep at it. Walk on Walk-On. Christopher Walk-Ons.

Erin

I'm not kidding. I know a thousand improvisers that would pay $300 to take that workshop from you guys.

Adal

That's 100% a DCM show at like 2 a.m. is Christopher Walk-Ons.

00:42:25

???

There was in Washington D.C. my old improv group did walk improv as part of a big like 24-hour, yeah.

JPC

Brendan, I want to ask you a question, and I think I already know the answer, but was Christopher Walken the pizza delivery man in the movie Mouse Hunt? I don't remember.

Guest1

Okay, great. I fully remember Nathan Lane being in it. I do not remember Christopher Walken.

Erin

Was he the mouse?

Guest1

Maybe.

Erin

Could be. Okay, we got a few more. The Land Before Time to The Devil Wears Prada.

Adal

The Land Before Time to Devil Wears Prada.

Erin

This is another movie I'm unfamiliar with.

JPC

Yeah, wasn't it Devil- Was that the elevator one? The devil was the elevator one?

Erin

He had an elevator movie? Have I jumped timelines?

JPC

Maybe he just produced it.

Guest1

Maybe it wasn't one that he like- Yeah, I think he wrote it and he was kind of on the bad end of things and he produced it. But it was like called Devil Maybe. I know what you're talking about. Devil Maybe.

00:43:34

Erin

I think that might be with Ryan Reynolds. It's a rom-com.

Guest1

You couldn't decide if the elevator was stopped because of mechanical issues or if the devil was doing it.

JPC

I don't know. I mean, this does look like the devil's handiwork, but it's an old elevator, too.

Erin

I'm going to give you this one because, again, I don't know this movie. Before the Devil Knows You're Dead.

Adal

I've heard of this. I've heard of that one.

Erin

You should be able to get this next one.

Adal

Okay. Okay.

Erin

This has two links in between and they're both TV shows.

???

And they're both Star Wars.

Erin

And they're both Star Wars. I'm going to give you two movies and then the interlink between them has to be two different TV shows. Okay. The movies are Men in Black and Girl Interrupted.

Adal

Okay, what's New Girl is the show? Mm-hmm. Is New Girl one of them?

JPC

Oh, New Girl?

Adal

Okay.

Erin

That New Girl is the one right before Girl Interrupted, so we need to do Men in Black. Orange is the new black? Yes.

JPC

Orange is nice.

Erin

Nice.

JPC

Got it. Okay, that's very good.

00:44:36

Erin

This one also has two chains, Back to the Future and 28 Weeks Later.

Adal

Are they movies or TV shows?

Erin

They are movies.

Adal

Okay. Back to the Future.

Erin

has a silly little thing in it.

Adal

Is 20... 20 dresses, is that a movie? 27 dresses. So close.

JPC

And it's 28 days later?

Erin

28 weeks later.

JPC

28 weeks later.

Erin

But I'm saying that kind of as a hint.

Adal

So it's 28 days later of the connector?

Erin

And then there's another connector before that. And what was the first movie? Back to the Future.

???

Back to the Future. Oh, what is Days of Future Past? Oh, that's the X-Men. Nice one.

Erin

Nice, that was incredible. I'd like to see a scene, you are all X-Men, and you're just like really hoping that your next movie is not a flop.

Guest0

I feel like we really need to, like, show our flaws. I feel like a lot of the movies we're doing, eh, things are too sort of, um, uh, gussied up, bubs.

00:45:41

Guest1

That's easy for you to say, you're Wolverine. Snail Guy doesn't even show up in half of these comics. I don't even know why I'm here. I think I'm a joke. No, no, you're not a joke.

JPC

You're... What? No. Snail Guy, you're comedic relief. That's totally different from being a joke. You're levity. You're the moment of levity.

Guest0

I am the joke. I am the joke. No, no. When you say snail trail, everyone loves it. Everyone loves it.

Guest1

I don't think the kids are going to get that one.

Guest0

And, and Brick Wall, Brick Wall, you bring so- you impede so many paths.

???

I know, I know, but I feel like all I- I just end up in front of stand-up comics in every scene.

Guest1

These movies aren't good, can we say that? I know- They're not good.

???

My scenes aren't any good.

JPC

Well, they're not supposed to be good. They're supposed to make, you know, they're supposed to turn a profit. They're profitable, you know.

???

They're not supposed to be good? Can I quote you on that?

JPC

I mean, you can quote me. I'm just some asshole X-Men extra, you know? Nothing that I say makes any difference one way or the other.

00:46:45

Guest0

Don't say that, megaphone. You're essential to the team.

JPC

Oh, come on. At most, I'm just, you know, I'm a hype man, basically.

Guest1

Let's be honest, guys. It's 1997. Who do you think is gonna have their own movie? Is it gonna be Wolverine, the fuckin' wall guy, megaphone, or a snail? It's gonna be Wolverine! It's a toss-up.

Guest0

Toss-up for sure. Toss-up for sure.

Erin

Hey sorry guys, I'm wall guy's agent. I don't mean to just walk on set like this, but you got it. Jerry Seinfeld. He called. He called.

Guest0

Oh, there we go. Congratulations.

???

Okay, I told you Deb. I don't want that gig. Haven't we had this conversation? This was an episode of Seinfeld.

Guest1

The agent could never get him the right bookings.

Erin

This is hilarious.

???

I'm living his life. I mean, what an insult to injury right now. Didn't we have this talk? This is what they mean about right what you know. Right what you know.

Adal

So sorry to interrupt everyone. Snail Guy, it happened. What? Snail Mary is getting made. When you're a nun in witness protection, Snail Mary is happening.

00:47:54

Guest0

Oh, congratulations.

???

Wow. Great. Bully for you. Wow, that's awesome. This is fantastic.

Guest1

Now that's a movie.

Erin

Now that's a movie.

???

Yeah.

Erin

What do you mean you want better than Jerry Seinfeld? It's 1997. He's a god.

???

I understand. Do I have any dialogue or just stand there while he tells jokes in front of everybody?

Erin

Well, there's going to be a spotlight on you and then his shadow is going to be on you.

???

Oh, great. Kind of a spotlight on me. I sort of inadvertently get shined on.

JPC

Has anyone seen my agent? Is my agent on set today or do they have any news? You have an agent? For Megaphone? It's an agency. I don't have a specific agent assigned to me, but I'm with an agency. Has anyone seen anyone from my agency?

Guest1

Hi. Is one of you Megaphone? Hey, my name's Drew. I'm an intern. The agency sent me over. They just wanted to make sure you were here.

JPC

Yeah, I'm here, okay? I drove myself today.

Guest1

Do you need a bottle of water? Do you need some gummy worms?

00:48:58

JPC

You get three DUIs and suddenly they have Drew checking up on you at all times and all hours of the day.

Adal

After that, I presume that Wolverine calls his agent and he's like,

Guest0

Listen, everyone else is getting work. What else do I have to do?

Erin

Do we want to keep going? Are you having fun with these? Should I switch it up and do something else? How are we feeling?

Guest1

I love listening to you guys nail it.

???

What's the next riddle? Is there another category?

Erin

I can keep doing more of these two-chain ones for a little bit, or I could switch to a different kind of riddle.

JPC

All right, switch it up.

Erin

Switch it up. All right, give me one second.

JPC

These are from Zev from Toronto.

Guest1

I've made some phrases for when you have to leave a function.

JPC

I will write out the first part and you have to guess at the punchline. Example, I guess it's time to make like a tree and

00:50:07

Guest1

Leave. Leave.

Erin

Exactly. Okay, are we ready?

Adal

Yes. Yes.

Erin

Make like the Autobots and... Transform.

Adal

Roll out?

JPC

Roll out, yes. Transform is there, though. There's something to transform.

Erin

Make like Humpty Dumpty and... Have a great fall.

Adal

Be grateful. I think that should be a greeting card. Like, I am grateful for you. It's Humpty Dumpty.

JPC

Make like Humpty Dumpty and do crack.

Erin

Yeah, you have the right word in here, but I would imagine a British person saying this when they left a party.

JPC

Crack on? Crack on!

Erin

Make like a Jordan Peele film and get out.

Adal

Nope.

Erin

Yes. And nope. Make like a jackhammer and

00:51:13

Guest1

I'd like to see a scene.

Erin

Brendan, you are a jackhammer and you just had a one night stand with JPC and you're waking him up on a Saturday morning in the bed next to him.

Guest1

G-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-

JPC

Oh, wow, yeah, sorry if I, was I snoring? Sorry if I was snoring, I was also out of it.

Guest1

My whole job is snoring.

JPC

Yeah, yeah, you know what, why don't we, you wanna go out and get some coffee, leave my apartment? Let's go leave my apartment together and get some coffee?

Guest1

I want another little round with you.

JPC

I actually think I'm good on rounds. I think, yeah, on an empty stomach, I'm not even sure.

00:52:16

Guest1

You worked me so hard last night, and I want another taste of that.

JPC

on the show. I'll say it this way, you go very hard, and it's not always the most... Thank you, thank you. I'm not sure if we're, are you open to feedback or at all? Oh god, this always happens, you're breaking up with me? Well no, that's the good news is that we're not together at all, so it doesn't need to be a breaking up. I can be soft, I can be soft. I don't, I don't believe you, I just don't believe you. Tell me something. Do you believe that a jackhammer could ever find love? Um, you know, yes, I do. I think anyone and everyone can find love. I hope that I can find love one day. Write a song about me one day, Billy Joel.

00:53:34

Guest1

No way Billy Joel didn't fuck up jackhammering.

Erin

That is historically accurate. You can sue us.

Guest1

That's what that had to be a big shot was about.

JPC

That's what it was like. Hey Riddle Riddle.

???

Back in the 90s, when there was no social media, there was two rumors flying around the US. One was that Richard Gere put a gerbil up his butt and it got stuck.

Adal

The other was that Rod Stewart had to go to the hospital to get his stomach pumped and they found like 16 gallons of semen.

???

I also heard that about Billy Idol. They also tried to throw that on Jewel.

Guest0

I actually heard that about you in college.

00:54:38

JPC

Erin, Casey says, Erin, you literally learned this on an ep like three months ago.

Erin

Well, my brain's working great because I actively forgot it. It sounds like my brain's taking really good care of me.

???

This is also the same rumor that went through every single middle school, which is one person was masturbating in the bathroom and the frozen hot dog routine. This is the same thing.

Erin

Same song and dance.

???

Same song and dance. You just, you know, switch the names out. And if that was you in middle school, right?

Guest1

Yeah.

JPC

hrpodcasts at gmail.com.

Erin

Is that what Mousehound was a butt about? A butt?

Adal

Mountain Dew makes your penis small.

Erin

I mean, there's so many... Christopher Walken put that mouse up his... butt, I bet.

???

Richard Gere and Rod Stewart in Gerbil Hunt.

Erin

Make like a jackhammer and... hit the road.

???

Hit the road. Make like Team Rocket and...

00:55:44

Guest1

Team Rocket. That's a Pokemon thing. I know that. My son would be proud.

Erin

Get him in here. Call him at school. Let's pick him up. Make like a banana and... Split. Classic. Make like a baby and... Throw up.

Guest0

Let's make like a baby, eh?

Adal

Yeah, it's a French tourist trying to have sex.

JPC

Let's make like a baby. Make like a baby. Make like a baby and, yeah. Grow up. What do they do?

Adal

Scream? Raw? Nap?

Erin

This is kind of like a... Make like a baby.

JPC

Suckle?

Erin

How do they enter the world?

JPC

Get... Born? Make like a baby and... Oh, get born. And you get Jason Bourne.

???

Wait for a cesarean?

Erin

Yeah.

???

Cut it out.

Erin

Oh, cut it out. No. What part of their body comes out first? Head out. Yeah, and head out.

00:56:48

JPC

Head out.

Erin

And head out. Do you like that one, guys? Do we love it? Do we like it or love it? Those are the only options.

JPC

Take a baby and eat a little bit of meconium before you head out. Yes.

???

I'm going to say like if those are my two options. Yeah.

Erin

Okay, great. Perfect. All right, let me pick up some...

???

How many categories do you have at your disposal?

Erin

What would you guys say?

JPC

What are your favorites? I feel like the question was supposed to you, Erin. I don't know how I'm supposed to answer that.

Erin

I feel like in general, there's probably 25 different types of riddles and puzzles that we cycle through.

Adal

We sourced a lot of riddles and lateral thinking problems from books, and then that well started to dry up. So then listeners started to send us their home-brewed games, and they're a little different from straight-up riddles, which we appreciate. That's very kind.

00:57:52

???

I'm glad you appreciate it. I'm just joking. Just had to take a jab.

Erin

I am going to try to find some of my favorite kinds.

???

Okay.

Erin

Give me one second.

???

I'm going to do the crossword while we wait.

Adal

Mark, your wife would be mad. Now let's say that while Erin's doing that, let's say Brick Wall and Snail Man team up. What kind of crimes are they fighting? Who are they fighting? What's the arch nemesis of a brick wall and a snail?

Guest1

I feel like a brick wall and snail actually kind of go well together on a cold night.

Adal

It's like Withnail and I, brick wall and snail. I feel like that's a good duo.

Guest1

I think it's like, yeah, stopping petty crimes. So like a guy tries to steal some shoes off a back porch, the wall's there to stop him, and the snail's there to kind of gross him out for a little bit.

???

Yeah, and everybody's moving really slowly. So our arch nemesis would be like a glacier. Or like a stopped train or something.

00:59:00

Guest1

Is this a riddle? You ever hear that thing about like, you could have a billion dollars, but for the rest of your life, a snail is chasing after you. And if it ever catches you, you die. So then like your whole existence is just to be like, the snail never stops moving. It never stops coming from you. It always knows where you go. So basically your life is like flying from New York to Los Angeles.

Erin

I would take that deal.

Guest1

Yeah. You would go for it?

Erin

Today we're

Adal

Yes, yes.

Guest1

It's because you were naughty to get that billion dollars.

JPC

I'd take the billion, I'd draft up like an airtight will with an estate and then I'd just touch the snail and I'd be like, you know, at least my wife and my kid are going to be taken care of, you know? That's really nice. And what do I care, you know? I'm here, I'm not here. It's all the same. It's all a wash.

01:00:08

Erin

I'd like to see a scene. This is exact circumstance. Mark, you are the snail and Brendan, he's finally caught up to you.

Guest1

I've been waiting for you. I'm finally done. I've done everything a rich man can do. Good God, I came all the way from New York.

???

Yeah. Jeez. It's a hell of a journey, isn't it? Jeez. 78 years. I feel like you basically outlived, you know, life expectancy, and I'm- I'm way past life expectancy, but I gotcha! I gotcha.

Guest1

Thank you so much for this wonderful life. This billion dollars went to many wonderful things, and now I'm ready to go into the great ever after. And how do you do this? You got a billion? Oh, yeah. Yeah. A billion with a B? Yeah. What? These are modern times. A billion's basically ten hundred million nowadays.

???

Huh. In the old days. I'll take your word for it. Not so good at math. Damn, I didn't get anything. I didn't even come up with this thing. You get amazing superpowers.

01:01:16

Guest1

What? Do I? You can't be killed. You get to travel and kill a great man. It's me. I got paid four leaves to come all the way over and touch you. That's it? You just touch me and I go? You don't eat me? You don't crawl down my throat?

???

No, I'm a snail, man. I'm a snail.

Guest1

I didn't do nothing. All right.

???

Well, I'm ready to go. All right. Well, I do, I do have this knife.

Guest1

Oh, there you go. So now it's got to be brutal, huh? Well, I'm open. I thought you were just going to touch me and I'd go. I don't want to be stabbed. You know what? Fuck this. I'm going back to New York. No, no, no.

???

Hold on. Listen, I had this knife. I mean, I touched you already. Okay. I didn't make the rules. I didn't even feel it.

JPC

It is I, Death, coming to claim a soul. You, Snail, did you touch him? Yeah, touched him. Okay. Finish up and... You gotta eat him.

01:02:21

Guest1

Oh, I knew it. I knew it.

JPC

Well, yeah, you didn't think you just had to touch him, right? You gotta eat him. I'll hold him. Come here, motherfucker. Come here. Motherfucker! I got him down on the ground.

Guest1

You get him. You get sworn at by Death.

???

I'll be there in a minute. I'm coming.

JPC

All right. Hey, sorry about this, man.

Guest1

It's my least favorite way to do this, but you got a nice gentle firm touch.

JPC

Yeah. Are you comfortable? I don't just if you stop wiggling, I don't have to hold you like this. Your eyes are so dark and vacant. Not gonna happen, man. Everybody tries.

Erin

So I pulled up some of my favorite riddle. I think we've maybe done these on the show before, these exact ones, but these are from Julia, but I'll give you guys a couple just so you... These are called Hink Pink's. The leg joints of a pollinating bug.

Adal

Bee knees. Yes, bees knees. So Hink Pink, the answer's always gonna be a rhyming, two words that rhyme, right? Did you remember that one, Adal? I don't remember that one, but I remember Hink Pinks always rhyme. He's always talking about bees' knees. I told you, I'm from the 1920s.

01:03:27

Erin

We found out that honey today is basically bee throw up. We found that out right before you jumped on the recording. Fun fact, the point of the day where one would watch a silent performer.

Adal

Mime time.

Erin

Yes.

Adal

Which sounds like another shitty X-Men.

Erin

A speedy form of transportation for a witch.

Adal

Zoom-broom.

JPC

Zoom-broom.

Erin

Yeah, everyone got that one. A violin-solving puzzle.

JPC

A violin-solving puzzle. Violent or violin?

Erin

Riddle-fiddle. Violent. Riddle-fiddle.

JPC

Riddle-fiddle.

Erin

Violent.

Guest1

Violent. Murder-sherder.

Erin

That definitely rhymes.

Adal

I do want to see one final scene to sort of take us out. Brendan, you just said Murder Shirtle? Murder Shirtle. Murder Shirtle. Murder Shirtle, sorry. This is Murder Shirtle being recorded by the Traveling Wilburys. Of course, Brendan, you are Tom Petty. Erin, you'll be Bob Dylan. We'll have Mark be George Harrison. And JPC, either Roy Iverson or Jeff Flynn.

01:04:35

Guest1

Right. That was fucked up, you guys throwing me out that airplane.

Erin

Shut up and sing!

Guest1

One and a two and a one and a two.

JPC

Hey, can I just say, I feel like my talents are being wasted on the tambourine. Would it be okay? Can I pick up another instrument?

???

I've been tambourining, I've been doing it. There's a little bit of life around.

Guest1

Sorry, this is Kyle in the studio.

Adal

Just real quick, can we not have Dylan and Petty back to back? I just feel like when I mix this, it's going to sound insane.

Erin

What are you talking about, man? George, you're up.

???

I'll try my best. My Liverpool accent is the same as my Bob Dylan accent, just parenthetically.

01:05:39

Erin

Okay, everybody give it a shot. It's really fun. Everybody sing it. One, two, three, four.

JPC

Hey Kyle, Kyle, everyone is the people of the Traveling Wilburys. It's not Kyle the technician. I'm sorry.

Erin

Come on. Thank you so much for coming on the show. It was a blast. Thank you so much. Where did we find you?

???

We have a show called The Traveling Dylans. Everybody plays Bob Dylan. Oops, all Dylans. We do have a show called, a podcast called Get It to Dutch, A Screenwriter's Journey, which you can check out anywhere you get your podcasts. It's so good. Listen to that.

Adal

Yeah, I will say it's one of, I very much enjoy listening to podcasts. It's one of the few podcasts, maybe there's been five or six all time, that have made me laugh out loud. Like, I'm rewinding constantly because I'm laughing so hard I'm missing stuff, so. That's so nice. High praise, thank you. Yeah, yeah.

01:06:52

Erin

Hard agree.

Adal

Could not recommend it more. Thank you so much. That is Get It to Dutch. Anything else to plug, promote?

Guest1

If you're in LA and we're doing shows, come see us. Follow us at Cook County Social Club on some sort of Instagram or whatever. I'm barely on it anymore.

???

And then yell at the artistic directors at your local improv theaters and say, you have to have Cook County Social Club come to your town. Only because Brendan loves to travel. Oh, I'm so good at it.

JPC

I'm going to go to I-O and like go into Plok and be like, hey Plok, I got the inside line. You ever heard of Cook County Social Club? Let them know. You should have them.

Erin

And if you're anything like me, go to youtube.com and watch all of Cook County Social Club's improv shows that are online. When you guys did Cage Match in like 2014, because I watched all of them before I moved to Chicago. I went, this is how I'm going to learn how to do improv.

???

What about you Adal, anything to plug?

01:08:11

Adal

I highly recommend go back and listen to Handle with Care by the Traveling Wilburys. Roy Orbison's voice cuts through all the other mumbling and it's just such a... Roy Orbison was just what a treat and a treasure. Go back and listen to his stuff.

Guest1

He was the guy that all that group looked up to. He was the intimidating guy, which is amazing.

Adal

There's also a black and white concert that's Roy Orbison, Tom Waits, Bruce Springsteen, someone else, but try and find that online. It's a very good, very good live special concert. JPC, do you have anything to plug or promote?

JPC

Yeah, I am I'm stepping in as the new producer for world news tonight at io so that's every Saturday at 8 p.m So if you're in Chicago, and you want to see a show on a Saturday night at 8 p.m. Under those very specific Circumstances come and see world news awesome Aaron anything to plug nah.

Erin

I got nothing good good stuff Jupiter though, that's how we episodes okay, just pull that cord wait

01:09:23

Guest0

Are any parents in the field today?

JPC

Hey there Bajas and Blasts, if you liked that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. The gang goes to a haunted house. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com slash heyriddleriddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month, or start your 7 day free trial, or the review crew for $8 a month, plus you get those ad free episodes. See you there!

???

That was a hate gum podcast.