Which Riddle Riddle?

#309: I'm Actually Quite Cool! w/ Rekha Shankar

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1, 2, 3, 4, Hey Riddle Riddle!

Erin

Adal, do you have any 4s?

Adal

Go fish. JPC, do you have any 3s?

JPC

Go fish. Erin, do you have any 2s?

Erin

Yep, I got one 2. Here you go.

JPC

Oh, uh, okay. I guess we should have been more clear. We're playing with money, Erin, but the money is for betting. It's not... Like, obviously, there's no $4 bill or $3 bill. Like, you don't have to give me your $2 bill. This is... That's more for... Huh. For betting for the game.

Erin

Okay.

JPC

Because I can see that you do have a bunch of $2 bills that... I don't know. What is this, like, from, like, a birthday card from a grandma? What is this from?

Erin

It's exactly what it's from. This is the only place that they make sense and I can use them.

JPC

That makes sense. That makes sense. I'll just take the $2, but just for next time know that it's, it's, yeah.

Erin

Okay. All right. Let's see. Adal, do you have, what do I want? What do I want? What do I want? Any riddles?

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Adal

Oh, I think I do. So I guess I pass them to you and you become old man puzzles. That's incredible.

Erin

No, actually, I'll take it back. Do you have any jacks?

Adal

No, go fish. JPC, do we have any guests?

JPC

I mean, I really have to answer this because I'm looking at my hand and I have to answer this. I did want to ask Erin if she has any 20s because I can see a crisp pile in front of her. Yes, we do have a guest. We do have a guest on the podcast today. So I... Fuck! And Rekha, welcome to the show.

Rekha

Oh my god, thank you for having me. And it's so nice to see you guys play a game up top. Yeah.

JPC

Yeah, I mean, you're UCB, you're maybe not familiar with like the IO school of improvising, but yeah, that is what we call a game. We use Go Fish as like an opener for our organic heralds a lot of the time. Yeah.

Rekha

Oh my god, that's really innovative and cool.

JPC

Thank you. And also, I know it's hard to tell. I did level one with Sharba Halpern, so if that name means anything to you.

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Rekha

Oh my god, Sharba Halpern?

JPC

Yeah, Sharba Halpern did teach me how to do improv.

Rekha

Oh my god, Sharba Halpern, friend of Delmo's, yeah. I remember, kings of improv.

Adal

Rekha, we do have to ask, what is your relationship with, what is your feelings towards riddles, puzzles, lateral thinking problems, escape rooms?

Rekha

Okay, so I fucking love riddles. And I love word puzzles. I used to be a competitive punter.

Adal

Whoa. And do you go to Austin or where's that?

Rekha

I did go to Austin.

Adal

Holy shit. How was it? How'd you do?

Rekha

I placed fourth in the first one and fifth in the second one. So for me, pretty good. I'm sure some people will be like, you fucking dork. No, that's not good. But I had a great time both times. I was a ponder dome person in Brooklyn, New York. And in terms of escape rooms, listen, I love all of the things you listed. Does it mean I am good at all of them?

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Not at all.

Rekha

Not at all. I'm the person that goes to trivia because I love just being there. And I might know one out of every 30 questions, but I love to be there. I love to play the game. I don't need to be great at it.

JPC

That absolutely rules. Rekha, Adal has talked about this pun competition.

Rekha

You're the first person I've met that isn't someone in the Brooklyn punning community that knows what it is.

Adal

I love puns and I've wanted to, not even, I mean, it would be fun to compete but I also would just love to watch it.

JPC

Adal, it's okay. You're with friends. You can say that you would love to compete. I'd love to compete. I mean, there's no reason to say like, oh no, I'd love to, I'd love to fly on a plane.

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I'd just love to kiss the feet of anybody there. Fly on a plane. Yeah, you won a pun, man. You won a pun.

Adal

Could the chef bring out a steak? I just want to see it.

JPC

I just want to see what one is.

Rekha

I don't deserve one.

JPC

But so, okay. So as far as I understand this competition, you go, you don't bring your own puns. This isn't like, or okay, please.

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Rekha

There's two things you could do there. One event is called Pun Slingers. That's the event you're talking about that's like a spelling bee where they give you a category and you go back and forth with puns until someone messes up and there's a referee there to determine if it's a pun, if it's a repeated pun, if it's a cliche, whatever. Then there's a second event, this is the one I did, Punniest in Show, where it's a little more stand-up. You come in with a three-minute routine of puns based on a topic of your choosing, and then you get scores like you're in the Olympics of 10, 9, whatever, by a panel of fairly old people.

Adal

No!

Rekha

No, young people enjoy puns too!

Adal

It's not a bunch of teens who love puns. Puns aren't bad jokes, they're hip.

Rekha

No, it's not the nighttime sexy punning you're thinking about.

Erin

Wait, I'm, okay, I have so many questions about this. I'm so deeply interested in this. I want to know what your topic was when you did it. And then also with things like improv festivals and like niche interest festivals, it ends up being sort of like a fuck fest where everyone's hooking up and trying to meet people. I don't know why, but my gut is telling me that there's a lot of flirting happening at this podcast.

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Rekha

It's just condoms everywhere. So to answer your questions, so firstly, I would say that... And no, we're not asking who did you fuck at a pun festival.

JPC

That's not the kind of podcast we are. Yeah, no, no, no.

Rekha

And I think you could be. I think you actually could be. So my topics were... For the first year I did it, which was 2014, my topic originally was going to be classic rock music. But I literally, I was telling my friend I was going and he was looking at the website and he saw the judges panel and he's like, huh, all the judges are like, really old. I think like the youngest was the guy who hosted it. And he was like, maybe in his 70s. Oh, holy shit. The youngest?

JPC

What is this, the U.S. Senate?

Rekha

Hey! So I was like, crap. I don't think jokes about America are stealing. I don't know how these are to hit. The foreigner joke might hit pretty well, but not for the reasons I want. This is so psycho. I'm coming in very hot onto this podcast because I'm going to sound fucking psycho. I was like, okay, I gotta change my routine. I don't know what to, but I'll change it. That night I had a dream that I was doing sandwich puns. And they were good. They were fucking good. And I never had a dream about puns. I'm actually quite cool. I've never dreamed like that before. But I woke up in the middle of the night and wrote it down. And I used like half of those in my routine. And I did a sandwich routine. Do you remember?

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Erin

It was like Paul McCartney dreaming yesterday.

Adal

And there's a documentary you can watch on Disney about your process?

Rekha

Yeah, exactly, it's three minutes long.

Adal

Rekha, do you remember, is there anywhere we can watch this online, or do you remember just one, like a gem of a pun? I was gonna ask you your favorite of these puns.

Rekha

Yes, you can watch it online if you Google the O. Henry pun-off, and then look up my name, Rekha Shankar.

JPC

2014, fourth place.

Rekha

Yeah. You might find it in The Grey Lady, Lost in Globes, you might find it everywhere, See Smith. A pun I was really proud of, ah, it was like The whole theme of my set was like, that I used to be a criminal and now I've reformed. And then I folded in a lot of puns into this long story.

JPC

And in the middle- And these are sandwich puns too, right?

Rekha

They're all sandwich puns. Yes! In the middle of it- Reformed criminal sandwich puns. Oh, I love it. Exactly. In the middle of it, I was listing some of my crimes. And I was like, you know, I used to pretend to give fake spa services. I was a crock monsieur. And then I said, I even told a lady I had, I told a lady what I told her was a rare Amazonian songbird, but it was actually just a plebeian jay. I was very proud.

00:09:55

Adal

Plebeian jay, holy shit.

Erin

This is sophisticated shit.

Adal

That's fantastic. I fell in love with the competition as strong since I've never watched it. But I had heard years ago, I don't know if the person won, but somebody had used the pun, I went to the cherry store and then I went to the microphone store. Bada bing, bada boom. And I was like, what a phenomenal setup panel.

Rekha

Do you know the name of the person? Was it Jersey Jodowski? Because that sounds like a really good joke he would make.

JPC

We're like having a competitive eater on the show. I don't really remember the story, but this like really thin guy ate like a hundred hot dogs or something. They're like sweating and being like, he's Kobayashi. He's Kobayashi. I don't want to sound like a fucking loser.

Adal

I do love Rekha notices the nuances of like, play that chord again. Is that Jimmy Page? Is that Les Paul? It almost sounds like Robert Johnson.

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Rekha

Oh my God, because that could also be Tim Donnelly. What's funny, and then Erin, your second question was about the social culture. I will say the first time I went in 2014, I went with my father, and we stayed at his friend's house. And I did, I, there was no romantic element whatsoever to this trip, as you can imagine. My dad didn't know what I was doing. He's an immigrant, and so that makes sense to me. He came and only watched my set. So the competition is about nine hours long.

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Whoa. Wow.

Rekha

Because the punslinger part goes until someone just messes up. But you have the best punters in the world. So people aren't messing up. They just go forever. And my section is much shorter because it's like all timed press, like routines. So my dad came to Austin with me. It's very sweet. Watched me do three minutes of stuff about sandwiches, and then left without seeing me, because I didn't see him when he left. He went and went to the Lyndon B. Johnson Museum by himself for the rest of the day.

00:12:08

Adal

What a dad thing, the most dad thing in the world to do.

Rekha

He had the rental car. And so afterwards, everyone went to go hang out at some bar. And there were, I thought we were just going to hang out and have fun. And I really liked the Brooklyn people I was traveling with. I just didn't know a lot of the other people there. But we get there, and there's just board games. I was like, oh, we're going to play games? I just wish to chat.

Adal

I just wish to chat.

Rekha

I love board games, but it's outside. We were just outside for nine hours doing this. I'm very tired. And I am what you would consider a dumb punner. I'm not. I have a Latin. I studied Latin. I know linguistics. Everything I say is stupid.

Adal

Oh, Rekha, you're after my heart. I am the dumbest of punners.

Rekha

I'm so dumb. It's like these people like really do things like bada bang bada boom. I could never in my life. And I really respect that game. But I can't go after punning and go and go and go perform board games. I just wished I wanted my little quesadilla. And instead of playing the board games, we played punning games actually. So there's a game called Hey Waiter. We played it for so long. I texted my dad, I was like, can you pick me up? Because I was just like, I'm getting really tired. I can't do this anymore.

00:13:37

Adal

You went from work to work.

Rekha

And then the second year I like gauged my expectations more. Still was there with a few Brooklyn people I really like. And I did the topic of countries and did a routine on that and got fifth place for that. So I felt pretty good. And I was with a lot of people that like, like, I think my friend Jersey might have gotten like first place that year or something like, you know, it's a really fascinating environment. I was not part of any hookup culture if there was any. But you meet a lot of trivia buffs, like people that have been in Who Wants To Be A Millionaire, on Jeopardy, it's like a totally different world that again, I'm the person that watches Jeopardy. And I'm like, waiting for like, I hope they do TV sitcom theme songs. I hope they do wordplay as a category. One time my grandfather, we were talking about something and I like accidentally forgot that like April had 30 days instead of three or whatever. And he's like, your general knowledge is very poor. And I'm like, exactly. That's the energy I'm bringing into this podcast. Good insight, grandpa. Exactly. Really long answer to your question, Erin, but I had no romantic connections whatsoever at either of my lives.

00:14:46

Adal

That is so funny. Incredible. I very much look forward to this weekend pouring over some YouTube videos and I'm excited to watch your routines.

Erin

I love a niche documentary. Me too! They're my favorite. Spellbound, yeah. Spellbound the best. I just want one about the pun competition.

Rekha

So there's been a few that have been attempted to be made, like, born to punt. There's been, like, a few I've heard of. I don't know where they are, because I would absolutely know the people in it.

JPC

The subject matter of each one of them turns out to be, like, a really bad murderer, and so they have to can the whole documentary.

Rekha

Exactly. They need to find the stable punters.

JPC

Yeah, because they're like, this guy's great at puns. It's like, oh, he's also doing, like, cut-out letters from the newspaper.

Erin

Or they're all in their 80s and they can't make it to the end of the documentary.

Adal

Octogenarian judges. Octogenarian judges is an oxymoron. Rekha, we do legally have to get to... So sorry.

Erin

No, no, no, this is us.

Adal

Rekha, here's the thing. Everything you just said, your story, your process, was so joyful and so much more entertaining than what this show is that we don't deserve it, and you should start your own pun-based podcast that I will listen to every episode.

00:15:56

Rekha

Oh my god, I'm gonna get one listener? Awesome. Maybe three.

JPC

I was like, didn't I, Adal, I was like, didn't I just text you a pun yesterday? And then I remembered the pun that I texted you and I was like, nope, maybe not for the show.

Adal

But it was fantastic. Here we go. We're gonna do just some quick warm-up riddles and we'll go from there. I have eight to spare and I'm covered in hair. What am I?

Rekha

A spider? Yeah, I was gonna say spider.

Adal

Very good guess. It's not a spider. I have eight to spare and I'm covered in hair. What am I?

JPC

Is this the Octomom? Because that's fucked up, Adam. It's fucked up to do the Octomom again, as an answer to a riddle.

Erin

The thing that's right in the center of the zeitgeist right now.

Rekha

That's really, really... That's low-hanging fruit. We were all just talking about her.

Adal

If the royals call their kids spares, then we can... I guess the royals don't say it. We say it about the royals, I guess.

Rekha

You don't think they say it about themselves?

Adal

Maybe.

Rekha

Someone called Prince Harry that, which is why his book was called Spare.

Adal

Oh, his book is called Spare?

Rekha

Yes, because it's the heir and the spare.

00:16:57

Adal

Okay, I guess they do say that then.

Rekha

There's something about his dick in that book, right?

JPC

He talks about his dick for a while in the book. He got frostbite on his dick? Yeah. Or like he frostbit his brother's dick or something?

Rekha

He frostbit... Alright, I don't need it said back to me.

JPC

A simple no, that's not what it was, would suffice.

Adal

I do want to see a quick scene. Let's say Erin and Rekha, you two are the children of a royal family. One of you is the heir, one of you is the spare, we don't know which. And you are having a discussion at your parents' funeral.

Erin

I think you're the spare. Okay, you are ten years younger than me. Uh-huh. A foot shorter than me. Uh-huh. And you're inching to me closer and closer with a knife. Eh?

Rekha

So what? So what? So my brain's got a little rattled? I think your brain's a little too attacked, and that's why you're the spare. You'll run things like it's always been run. I'll give it a little creativity.

00:18:03

Erin

How did we get all the same schooling, and you talk like this, and I talk like this?

Rekha

What did they do to you? Well, I was tuning them out and I was listening to me podcasts. I listen to a lot of podcasts. Podcasts where, you know, men, you know, use axes to make different things in their houses and, you know, they eat raw meat and stuff like that.

Erin

Hmm, I'm beginning to think you're a little bit of a threat to me. You seem sort of like a woman of the people. I'm gonna just keep inching away from this knife. You know what? I'm gonna take over as queen. You can be a chimney sweep or whatever it is that you're doing with your time.

Rekha

Oh wow! Oh wow! Real nice dig there, sis. Real creative. Really what the country needs. Your typical spare behavior. With your eaten education and your nice clean clothes.

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And now a reading of the will, where it will be revealed which of the twins is the heir and which is the spear.

00:19:07

Rekha

Oh, I'm gonna love this. I couldn't read it myself, but I'm gonna love what they say about you. What? They weren't sure that I would live.

Erin

They did not have a solid backup plan at all.

Adal

See?

Erin

That's the new queen, everybody. Perfect.

Adal

I love any time, if I watch Love Island or any of those, like the British versions, it's like, it'll be like the most chiseled, handsome man you've ever seen in your life. And then he's like, I love watch this babe. Come over here, sit on my lap. And you're like, whoa, looks aren't everything.

Rekha

I think Louis Vertel had a joke that I think is so true, which is like, in England, from the American's perspective, it seems like if you live on a different street, you have a different accent. It's not just like, I'm from Sussex, I'm from London. It's like, I'm from Main Street, I'm from Bridge Street. So I sound like that shit, you sound like this.

Adal

I have eight to spare, and I'm covered in hair. It's not a spider, but it is a creature, animal.

00:20:12

Erin

Hey everyone!

Rekha

An octopus with hair would be so cute. Is it like a pregnant dog with like teats? Could that be it?

Adal

Rekha got it. It's a pregnant dog with teats though. That's a caveat. Think about, so if it currently has eight to spare, that means in total it has... More.

JPC

Dude, this is a cat. This is a cat. Nine lives.

Rekha

Nine lives.

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That's good. Yes, yes, yes.

Rekha

But that's fucking fake, right?

JPC

Yeah, no, it's fake. I've killed so many cats. Yeah. First time, first cat into a two-man league.

Erin

I'd like to see a scene. Rekha, you are a cat and you're hanging out with your cat friends, Adal and JPC, and you suddenly realize that you think you might actually be on your last life. Okay, beautiful.

00:21:15

Adal

Jumped all the way from the bookcase, right? And as I'm falling, I'm turning, I'm turning, boom, all fours, right on my seat. From the bookcase? From the bookcase.

Rekha

Oh my god, so did you even have to use one of yours, dude?

Adal

Now let's

Rekha

You know, I think it's a talking bass bass on the wall, but it looks like it's real. I'm not sure.

JPC

It's not. Yeah, it's not.

Rekha

Well, I want to try to get closer to see. So I've been climbing up on the refrigerator and jumping. So I did that. What? Well, I did that yesterday morning.

Adal

Yeah, we watched you eat shit. You broke your neck real hard.

Rekha

I ate absolute shit. So then I said do-overs.

JPC

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the god of the cats came around, stitched your neck back together. Exactly.

00:22:18

Rekha

So I did do-overs. Absolutely missed. I aimed so poorly. I think because I had gotten hit. I had double vision. I was aiming for the second pass. For sure.

Adal

Went right in the garbage disposal.

Rekha

Exactly. And she had just had a bunch of stuff in there, soups and stuff that didn't work out. So she had turned it on.

Adal

So I was toast. To blend up the soup. What's with Melissa and soups, by the way? Table that. Let's table that.

Rekha

Table that because it is a concern. This liquid diet is not working for her.

JPC

Well, you know what I think it is is I think it's a breakup thing because it's like suddenly I don't see Gary anymore at all and it's everywhere. What could this be?

Rekha

It makes me feel bad like she thinks she needs to like only drink stuff and that she can't eat because she's single now.

Adal

Wild. She deserves better. She deserves the world.

JPC

There's a whole fucking bunch of fucked up things like in Confluence there, and I want to like kind of sit her down a bit. By the way, Gary was a piece of shit.

Rekha

I know. So I actually, okay, this is so funny. When Gary was leaving, I tried to get him, you know, because he's rude.

00:23:20

JPC

Yeah, didn't he kill you like six times?

Rekha

Yeah, there was the car, there was a scooter. It was his hoverboard.

JPC

Oh my god, Oreo. Pick a transportation method, Gary. Yeah, Gary. I mean, it's all of these eclectic with this transportation. Unicycle. Gary six times, two times on the fridge. Oreo, I think you're on your last life.

Rekha

No, no, no.

JPC

That's crazy. That's eight. No, that's eight.

Rekha

I think you're on your last... That's literally crazy. I was born like three weeks ago. That would be crazy if I use them all up. If I use them all up now.

Adal

That might be a record. You should contact someone. That might be a record.

JPC

I mean, I was born eight weeks ago and I'm a grandma. It's not the wildest thing in the world.

Rekha

Oh god, they're getting younger and younger. Wait, that's so messed up. I'm on my ninth?

Adal

Yeah, and Oreo, you're walking across the toaster. Just be so careful.

Rekha

Why? I want the crumbs! Oreo, just wait! Melissa doesn't eat out of here anymore because she's gluten-free because of depression. I want the crumbs that are left in before she gets rid of them.

00:24:24

Adal

Oreo, careful. You're pawing around real deep. You might hit some sort of- Come on.

JPC

Oreo, don't get a fork out. Don't put a fork in the Oreo.

Rekha

But this is a chunk of bread. It's a chunk, please!

Adal

Oreo, ground yourself. Ground yourself. Oreo, why are you wetting the fork?

Rekha

Shooting the plug with a gun to make it pop up and go in the outlet?

JPC

That's a one in a million shot. We will now read Oreo's will. I know that Oreo's two children are here today.

Rekha

I'm the spare. I know it. I'm the spare.

JPC

You're obviously the spare.

Rekha

I knew it. Hooray!

Adal

Aw, Oreo. So sad. I have no fingers, but I can still point. I have no arms, but I can still strike. I have no feet, but I can still run. What am I? It's a clock.

00:25:36

Erin

That's incredible. That's really good.

Adal

Clock.

Erin

Don't be impressed because so often I mean, we've been doing how many episodes are in are we?

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309?

Erin

Holy crap. So that's a lot. I know. And so often the riddles are like shadows, echoes, time. Yeah, a glove. So it you run through them in your head every time.

Rekha

I was recently I did an improv show in Ireland and I was on a bus. Wow. I could probably jump in there, right?" And I was like, no, you can't. That is crazy person behavior. Do not. It's an hour bus ride to house. Do not jump in there. Because there was one that was like, the answer was time, and they just weren't getting it. And I was like, my God, guys, it's time. Let's move to the next one. It's time. What are you doing? That's so funny.

Adal

Rekha, you said that exactly right, where doing riddles at each other, that's the correct term, because it's not enjoyable. You're doing it at somebody. Yeah, it's a challenge and they're just challenging themselves. Here we go. Kings and queens may cling to power, and the jesters may have their call. However, I can defeat them all.

00:26:59

JPC

Ace? Yeah, the ace, right?

Adal

Ooh, Rekha got it. It is an ace or aces. That's fantastic. Or twos if you're playing with wild cards.

Rekha

Yeah, actually. Or if it's uno if you have like a river. Yes, yes, yes.

JPC

My apologies. Adal, is it the noble draw four? I mean, come on, do better than the draw four.

Adal

I haven't played uno in a long time.

Rekha

Me either, actually. It was a Connections answer, I think, yesterday. Oh! If you play New York Times Connections.

Erin

I missed today. I hate when that happens. Sounds like a Paul McCartney song. I missed the day.

Adal

I only exist when you are here. Where you never were, I can never be.

Erin

I hate ones like this.

Rekha

Is the shadow... Yeah, this one feels very shadow coded.

Adal

Shadow is very, very close.

Rekha

Body odor. Reflection. Shadow is close.

JPC

Is it sissy? What were some of the other animals from... What's its fuck? What's it called? 101 Dalmatians? No, no, no. Shadow was the dog. Homeward Bound. Homeward Bound.

00:28:08

Rekha

It's Homeward Bound.

Adal

Milo and Otis.

Rekha

It's Homeward Bound. Is it Homeward Bound? I can never exist or you know it.

Adal

Answer's Homeward Bound.

Erin

I'd like to see a scene. GPC, you're looking at the mirror and Rekha is your reflection.

JPC

Okay, wallet, keys. Oh, I'll just check my teeth. Oh my god.

Rekha

You got stuff in your teeth, my dude. You're looking bad.

JPC

What's going on?

Rekha

You're looking straight up bad. You can prepare yourself as much as you want with your wallet and keys, but you're looking straight up bad.

JPC

Is this a joke mirror or what? Or is there a cartoon dog looking back at me?

Rekha

I'm the first freaking real Miriam ever me. You look straight up bad today.

JPC

Okay, I'm dreaming. This is a dream. This is the most obvious dream I've ever been in. I'll just wake myself up. I'll cut my pinky off. Oh no! Why did I start there?

Rekha

I gotta say, you even look better than you did before. Yeah, no shit! You look better though, is what I'm saying. You look better with the pinky off. With the pinky off? That's how bad you freaking looked, my guy.

00:29:20

JPC

What is going on here?

Rekha

Your teeth got coffee stains, they got spinach in them, you got wine lips.

JPC

First of all, I had a spinach omelette, coffee, and wine for breakfast and now I'm going out to see a friend. That's a normal breakfast. Lots of people have that for breakfast. What is going on? Was my omelette dosed with LSD or mushrooms or something? Why am I seeing you?

Rekha

You're at a turning point in your life, JPC. This friend you're about to see, who are they?

JPC

I thought I was at least a character.

Rekha

This is just... It's just you. It's just you. Which friend are you about to see again?

JPC

I guess if it's a real life, I'll say Adal.

Rekha

Yeah. Yeah. It's funny you bring up Adal. He doesn't like you anymore.

Adal

Hey Reflection.

Rekha

Uh, yep.

Adal

What's up? I'm about to go see JPC.

Erin

Oh god, you look awful. Did you get any sleep?

Adal

I didn't get any sleep. I shop at Aeropostale. Is that how you say it?

00:30:23

Erin

No. Aeropostale? No.

Adal

I shop at Aeropostale. So my clothes are too tight and too short. I think today's the day I'm going to tell him that I hate him.

Erin

Well, you know what? I don't think he'll care. I think he hates you.

Adal

Can I ask? You know what? That's fine. That makes it easier. Can I ask, how do you... I feel like every time we're hanging out, you and his reflection are always like off giggling.

Erin

What are you talking about? No, you don't think it's like reflection legs? I mean, no, that would be crazy.

Adal

Oh, sorry. I'm at the door here. Ding dong.

JPC

Oh, yeah. Come in. I'm just cleaning up finger blood. Wait. Hey.

Rekha

Does he have those cool... Are you wearing sunglasses? Am I going to see like a reflection or something?

JPC

You're my reflection. You're asking me if I'm wearing sunglasses? I mean, come on.

Rekha

Yeah, yeah. Okay. I couldn't tell.

JPC

I'll put on some sunglasses. Thank you.

Rekha

Thank you.

JPC

Hey, buddy. Hey. Come and stand with my back towards the mirror.

Adal

Okay. Yeah. I'll do the same. And reflections have fun. Good to see you, JPC's reflection. Oh my god.

00:31:25

Rekha

Hi. Hey, what is freaking up?

Erin

Hey, uh, looks like your guy punched a mirror earlier. Did you two get in a fight?

Rekha

Yeah, he just couldn't take the truth, you know? He was looking like shit this morning. You know, what'd you guys get up to?

Erin

He was looking like shit this morning.

Rekha

Oh my god, no way. We have that in common.

Erin

Yeah. Adal said the craziest thing about us earlier. He said that like, whenever we're together, we're like giggling. And I was like, I guess, I guess we do have fun together.

Rekha

Yeah, I mean, I have a lot of fun hanging out with you. I mean, you know, like, I haven't, I'm like, there's no Mrs. JPC refraction or anything. So I don't know.

JPC

What? What are you? Oh my God, I cut the wrong finger off.

Erin

Fun.

Adal

Well, while JPC deals with the fallout of that scene and repercussions in his life, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with more Riddles.

???

1, 2, 3, 4. Hey Riddle Riddle.

00:32:29

JPC

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Adal

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Erin

Adal, you've been up all night writing this jingle.

Adal

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JPC

In the end... Okay, is that the final jingle? Because I have to type that in to turnitinjingle.com to make sure it's not a plagiarized jingle from any other product. And you're sure that's original Squarespace? They can use that. They can run with that. I'm pretty sure... You got Jingle.com? Turnitinjingle.com is down right now, so if I trust you and I just turn this in to Squarespace, they're gonna say that this is a good jingle?

Erin

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JPC

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00:33:53

Adal

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Erin

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JPC

Hey Erin, I need to go to the bathroom but I don't know how to say bathroom.

00:34:57

Erin

Hmm. Can I help with that?

JPC

What is it? What is it? Please help, help, help.

Erin

You know what you need? Babble.

JPC

Yeah, you need babble because I only speak, well, I speak English obviously not well, and then I speak a JPC language, but you don't need to go to like a JPC bathroom, right?

Adal

Oh, that's like pigeon squawks or something? Don't worry about it. Well, do worry about babble, getting babble that is, because it is the best way to learn a language, you know, other than immersion, like living in a country for 10 years or whatever, but I don't have time for that.

JPC

Yeah, you don't. You do not have another 10 years. I didn't want to be the one to bring it up, but since you brought it up, you just don't have... I mean, there's just no way you slice it. You have 10 years. I don't have 10 years. Erin, you might have. You might have nine more.

Erin

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Adal

That's Babbel you're talking about, of course. Yeah, of course. And one in five Americans have learn a new language on their bucket list. Of course, I have mine and time's running out. If that's you, like it is for me, make 2024 the year you finally check it off the list with Babbel.

00:36:00

JPC

Yeah, Babbel is also designed by real people for real conversations. And its quick 10-minute lessons are handcrafted by over 200 language experts to help you start speaking a new language in as little as three weeks. And some of us don't even have three weeks left. So, I mean, some of us are really white-knuckling.

Erin

And I'm just not even saying who! So in your last three weeks, you can like order food or ask for directions or tell people that you love them and that they meant a lot to you.

JPC

Or to go to the JPC bathroom or as we call it...

Adal

Babbel does not sponsor JPC Talk. No, you have to get that from me.

Erin

It got banned from the app.

Adal

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JPC

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00:37:06

Adal

I don't have to use the bathroom anymore.

JPC

Squawk, squawk, squawk, squawk, squawk, squawk. I'm beautiful! This podcast is brought to you by Squarespace. Okay. Hi, I'm JPC. Hi. Welcome. Oh, no, you're the audience. You don't, you don't talk. Welcome to my musical. Talk about Squarespace. Hold on. Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out or managing a growing brand. Squarespace makes it easy to create a beautiful website, engage with your audience, and sell anything from products, to content, to time, all in one place, all on your terms.

Erin

Upload video content. Organize your video library.

JPC

Stop. Stop. You're the audience.

Erin

It's my musical. Showcase your content on beautiful video pages. You can sell access to your video library by adding a paywall to your content.

00:38:14

JPC

Erin, this is so rude. I invited you to my one-man show called Squarespace.

Erin

Sell exclusive content on your site by adding a paywall to some memberships or courses or sell files your customers can download like PDFs, music, or ebooks.

JPC

Great. Now Adal's probably going to do some character song that he's got prepared as well in the audience as well.

Adal

Make checkout seamless for your customers with simple but powerful payment tools, except credit cards, PayPal, Apple Pay, it's eligible in countries, offers customers the option to buy now, pay later, with after pay and clear pay. I'm more of a talk singer.

JPC

Yeah, it was more of a talk.

Adal

Like David Byrne.

Erin

We love Squarespace, we use it for the Hey Riddle Riddle website!

JPC

Well, you know what, Erin, it's- Do the finale, do the finale. Wow, they've already heard you sing, now if they hear me sing they're gonna be like, do the finale. Fine, fine! You wanna hear the big finale?

???

Yes!

00:39:15

JPC

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Erin

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00:40:50

JPC

Have you guys talked to your therapist about the podcast? I mean, I, of course, of course have. Primarily. It is a lot about the podcast when I talk to my therapist. And if you're thinking of starting a podcast or maybe even starting therapy, get it off your chest with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com slash riddle today to get 10% off your first month. That's betterhelp.com slash riddle. But don't take it from us. Take it from J.P. Riddles. I will have to talk to my therapist before I'm allowed to do JP Riddles again.

Adal

That makes sense.

JPC

No, that makes sense.

Erin

Makes sense. I understand that boundary.

Adal

Hey Riddle Riddle. And we're back and welcome everyone to the annual Oh Henry pun competition. Of course, we're all here in Austin. Everyone who's here from Austin give a big hoot and a holler. Stay weird, or whatever our thing is. Stay weird! We're down to our final three. Welcome to Austin, try something weird! Okay, give me back the mic. We're here at the final round, our three final contestants. Of course, for this round, I'm going to say a topic and they each will come up with a pun around that topic, whether it be a little sentence or... We're trying it out new, so the rules are pretty loose.

00:42:11

Erin

You look like you're on Death Story or so old. You're the oldest person I ever saw.

Adal

My grandpa is sitting right down there. I'm 78 years young. Wow. Yep. Okay. The first category, the first category for this round is currency. Currency. Currency.

???

Okay.

Adal

And JPC, Rekha, and Erin, whenever you're ready, one of you will step forward and say your pun.

Erin

I'd start by talking about one cents coins, but that's not very penny. Penny. I walk out into the stream. I just keep walking.

Adal

The car goes right through you. You've been dead for years.

Rekha

I see you all leering at me. I think I'm pound for pound a better competitor. Since the days of Yen? What is that? I too, I follow Erin into traffic and I walk forever.

00:43:21

Adal

JPC, this is yours to lose.

JPC

Buckle up! You Euros, because it's time to... I gotta pesos myself before I do too many good puns. I step into a hot air balloon. I press the balloon to maximum. I float off into the sky.

Adal

Okay, I want to apologize for all the finalists leaving abruptly. The winner, of course, is Rekha!

Rekha

Wow, thank you.

Adal

Tough competition this year. Really tough competition this year.

Rekha

Yeah, a tough one to release so no one can receive the prize.

Adal

Let's do some more riddles here. This is going to be a bit of a, maybe a little bit tougher, but definitely longer of a riddle.

JPC

I like how the one guy who does puns on the show didn't participate in the podcast.

Adal

Introducing the segment! Yeah, I gotta introduce the segment. One bitterly cold December morning, three men walk into a shop. One is blind, one is deaf, and one is mute. Without a word being spoken, one of the men realizes that one of the others is married with kids. Which one is married with kids, and which one realizes it?

00:44:40

Erin

Okay, so they have to use... It's like a 90s stand-up joke where it's gonna be like some indication that they have like a nagging wife that won't leave them alone.

JPC

I was gonna say nagging wife feels like it's the solution here. I'm not crazy about that.

Rekha

Or the tame answer is like the mute person sees a wedding ring and just realizes he's married and keeps it to himself realizing it's like a silent thing or it's like the wife calls the bar and is like, I'm What if it's none of these and we're just doing this?

00:45:53

Adal

It's actually because all three of them are friends and they know about each other's lives. Wow!

JPC

No, Riddle. No, impossible. I've never met three male friends who ask questions about each other's lives.

Erin

Yeah. That's true.

Adal

Yeah. I'm gonna, unless there's any other guesses, I'll give the answer to this and we'll move on because this is a weird one.

JPC

Yeah, I don't think I have a clue. Is there any chance, and this is a long shot, is there any chance that one of them is Madame Webb? Because her web connects them all, so it would be so easy to determine.

Rekha

Oh my god, that's a really good guess.

Adal

The three men are X-Men. X-Men can be women.

JPC

Yes!

Adal

Um, they are in a card shop. They were in a, you know, the three men were in a shop. It was a card shop and the mute man is buying a wedding anniversary card and two birthday cards. So.

JPC

Wait a second. Wait a second. He had both of these kids on his wedding anniversary. This is a man who refuses to memorize an additional date.

00:46:53

Rekha

Sorry. Did you say they were in a card shop?

Adal

I think these types of riddles are fucking stupid. There is no way to intuit that information.

Rekha

You cannot introduce facts like that in the answer. That's like a murder mystery where it is someone you've never met, never heard of, that lived on a different planet. And it's like, don't you feel stupid? It's Galactus. And you're like, what?

Adal

It's like, someone was murdered. You're given three hours of clues and suspects. And then the answer is, it was Galactus the alien who dimensionally shifted. And it's like, how was I supposed to?

JPC

This fucking guy had a December wedding? Who has a goddamn December wedding?

Rekha

Well, I will say, I have heard, I might be wrong, my partner is Jewish and says his parents got married on Christmas Eve and that's really common.

JPC

Interesting.

00:47:56

Rekha

I don't want to say that he's right. I don't know.

JPC

That pisses me off. Christmas Eve is our time, okay?

Adal

Here's the next riddle, and this one I do have to give a bit of a caveat. This riddle I don't want to give a date because I think that's too helpful. I'll say this riddle not too long ago made sense. It should still make sense. I'm sorry, it should still make sense. The Queen.

Erin

The Queen's dead.

Adal

Fuck. Yeah.

Erin

Is that what it is?

Adal

The riddle is, I have a job, but I am waiting on getting another job. It is quite similar to the job I have. The day I get my new job, I will be very sad.

Erin

Yeah, the king and the queen.

Adal

And it's Prince Charles.

Erin

Adal, I am so sorry. No, that rocked.

JPC

Yeah, and Erin, that's honestly current events-wise best quesadilla.

Rekha

Yeah, I was like, oh my god. Yeah, I was like, I don't know about this. This is sort of a Weinstein riddle of kind of takeaway recent years.

00:49:00

Adal

There's a mirror in a mirror, Max. Next Riddle. You have a milk container that weighs one ton. A wheelbarrow with no- Too much milk.

JPC

Gonna get fucking sick thinking about that much milk. Ugh! That's gross.

Adal

You have a milk container that weighs one ton. Wait, is that empty too?

JPC

Oh my God, it must hold so much milk if it weighs one ton empty. Oh, I'm thinking about all that milk and now it's touching me.

Rekha

I'm thinking about how reinforced it is, which is like, ew, what kind of milk is it holding that's like nuclear? Rekha's right, there's no- And how are you drinking that much that quickly?

JPC

Yeah, there's no fucking way that's milk in there. It says milk on the side, but we all know this is like- It's for Houdini.

Adal

It's for Houdini's tricks.

JPC

It's like to hold the Hulk or some shit. Like we know that this is like a trick milk container.

Adal

Did you ever read the issue where they put Bruce Bader in a milk tank? You have a milk, and this is from a Scottish riddle book that I found, so I'm thrown because one ton, ton is spelled T-O-N-N-E.

Rekha

Tone.

00:50:01

Adal

Tone, thank you. We know that you were on a bus in Ireland, so we assume you went to- Yeah, to Scotland on my way.

Rekha

Thank you.

Adal

You have a milk container that weighs one ton, a wheelbarrow with no wheel, and 10 yards of hose pipe, which I guess has to be like a garden hose, I don't, You have to get the milk container 100 meters back to your shed without spilling a drop. How do you do it?

JPC

Can I just quit? What is the job? Can I just quit the job?

Rekha

Move the shed. You're the Queen of England, unfortunately.

JPC

Without spilling a drop, this thing might be empty.

Rekha

Adal, can I read it again? Can I spill the whole thing instead of one drop? Can I dump out all the milk? That is some good lateral thinking.

Adal

Rekha, we're going to give that to you because that is a brilliant workaround, but the other two have to solve it, and Rekha, please still participate. But that is an incredible answer.

JPC

How am I supposed to solve it when I'm absolutely drenched in milk that Rekha just dumped all over me?

00:51:01

Adal

She said what she was going to do. Move out of the way, my dude.

JPC

I told you. I have the right-of-way. I'm an American.

Adal

You have a milk container that weighs one ton. Erin, you said to reread it? Yes, please. You have a milk container that weighs one ton. A wheelbarrow with no wheel and 10 yards of hosepipe. You have to get the milk container 100 meters back to your shed without spilling a drop. How do you do it? And I have some clues, if you'd like clues.

Erin

Yeah, I'd like a clue.

Adal

Hmm. Okay, here's some of the clues. You are not alone. You have no other means of transport. You cannot use the hose pipe to make a wheel for the wheelbarrow. It wouldn't work. The milk container will not roll.

Rekha

Is the milk container a cow?

Adal

Rekha? Ding ding ding. The milk container that weighs one ton is a cow. All you have to do is shoo the cow towards the shed.

JPC

Shoot the cow. Drag its lifeless body to the shed. Rekha, you are brilliant.

Rekha

I can't believe we're still in an era where we're calling cows milk containers. I'm a baby container. Wow. Men are sperm containers. People with penises are sperm containers. Wow.

00:52:10

Erin

I would burst into tears if I were a cow and I would find out that the people who were caring for me were calling me a milk container. I'd be like, I have a name. And a best friend. And a best friend. I have more than just this.

JPC

You have a 170 pound incorrect opinion container and he's on a podcast.

Erin

Oh my god. That's an insane one, Adal. That one's crazy. Where did you find that? The garbage?

Adal

Erin, I found it in a Scottish book of riddles.

Rekha

And did they give you the clues or did you Adal put those in because it is ludicrous to kind of like the previous fucked up riddle you gave to assume someone would call a milk container a cow.

Adal

I wish I could take credit. Rekha, they added the clues, but let me tell you something that's insane. They add the clues in a way that every time you turn the page of this book, it's all the previous clues and one more. It's like a 300-page riddle book, but 20 pages are just clues for each riddle because they did that process.

00:53:11

JPC

What am I supposed to do with like the 10 feet of rubber hose?

Rekha

Does it say... Is that like a misnomer or a red herring or whatever?

JPC

I'm assuming it's like a sex thing. I'm supposed to use it for some sex purposes or something. I'm supposed to choke myself. I guess I choke myself with it. Whose turn is it to read a riddle? My turn.

Adal

Jack met his wife Sandra in the Moonlight Tavern in Parissa on the beautiful island of Santorini. If they hadn't met there, they might not be divorced now. Why? Jack met his wife Sandra in the Moonlight Tavern in Parissa on the beautiful island of Santorini. If they hadn't met there, they might not be divorced now. Why?

00:54:15

JPC

This feels like there's like a grease like pun in the answer.

Rekha

Yeah, Parisa.

JPC

She was greasy in the moonlight or something.

Rekha

Do I have to know what Parisa is? No, I kind of sounded like you didn't know how to say Paris, but then you said Santorini and I don't practice Santorini And is this something that has an unsavory thing about Wives or something is the answer where it's like well, it was a moonlight tavern So he didn't know that he married an ugly woman or something. I

Adal

Rekha, it's... there is... Is it close to that? No, it's not close to that, but there is something... Do I have to go get the hose from the cow? There's something where the woman's at fault here.

Erin

Because she doesn't speak English?

Adal

No, I have some clues if you want clues. Yeah, let's hear some clues. They married in a church, Jack and his wife Sandra. Jack worked as a sports therapist, this all seems irrelevant. Let's see, they were both going to Santorini for one week. They did not travel to Santorini together. It's irrelevant how long they were married. There was someone else on this island which was important to both of them. That is not it.

00:55:47

Rekha

Very poorly attended audiences either, huh?

Adal

And I own that. Here's something that I think is pretty important. They did not know each other were going to Santorini. So again, they did not travel to Santorini together. They didn't even know they were each going to Santorini, but Jack met his wife Sandra in the Moonlight Tavern in Parissa on the beautiful island of Santorini.

Rekha

Yeah, of course they didn't know each other were going there because they met at the Moonlight Tavern. Was it like a hinge date? No, that doesn't make sense.

Adal

Well, they met at the Moonlight Tavern, but that was, I mean, when you meet someone, I can meet up with JPC for coffee.

Rekha

Did they break into the Moonlight Tavern and they're criminals and they had to get divorced?

Adal

I wish Greek laws are such that if you mess up, you get divorced. I think that's brilliant.

JPC

Because you can't testify against a spouse, but they can force you to get a divorce so that then you can testify.

Rekha

That's what sucks. That's the law.

Adal

Or you can live the rest of your life with no fresh fish, which is just... What's living with no fresh fish with olive oil and a rice pilaf. So Rekha, I think you're really on to something. When you said about like they met that night and I said, well, you don't have to meet someone for the first time just because the Lord met. I think that is a big clue. Here's another big one. If Jack had not gone to Santorini, they might not have divorced. So they did not travel to Santorini together.

00:57:20

JPC

They were already married.

Adal

Yes.

JPC

But they didn't know and then they independently each went to Santorini on like a date or something? So they saw them cheating?

Adal

You pretty much got it. 99% of that percent there. Sandra told Jack, her husband, she was going on a girl's holiday. Yes. To Corfu. Here it says Corfu. I don't know where that's at. So she said she was going on a girl's holiday anywhere else in the world. He was surprised then when he walked into the Moonlight Tavern to find Sandra kissing her boss with whom she was having an affair.

Rekha

So this, I know that they didn't expect us to say all of that. This is teetering on the edge of a type of riddle I hate. Yeah. I get how you can get there from just the riddle.

JPC

Yeah, Rekha, I think I know where you're going, and it's infidelity riddles, right?

Rekha

I really don't like infidelity riddles. You shouldn't kiss before you're married, and you shouldn't cheat after you're married.

JPC

Don't even joke about that stuff, okay? Because that shit is actually serious. You get in huge trouble for it.

00:58:21

Rekha

Riddles are not the place to talk about marriage. Marriage is sacred. It's between Two milk containers.

Adal

And Riddles are between three adults who can't get work anywhere else. I think this one I like actually. This one's kind of dumb, but I like this one.

JPC

Alright, I want to see a scene.

Adal

Oh yes.

JPC

So here's the scene. You guys, all three of you are independently here to like cheat on your significant others and you're walking into a bar in Santorini that is famous for people coming to to cheat on their spouses.

Rekha

Ooh, Ashley Madison bar.

JPC

Yeah. Table for three? Or are you here three?

Erin

Oh, um, independently?

JPC

Or is it a table for three?

Erin

I came here alone. But if you have a table for three,

Adal

Or four if you want to join.

JPC

Uh, no, I'm working. Um, do you guys want me to check your big trench coats, hats, and big dark sunglasses? Or are you going to keep those on?

00:59:24

Adal

Can I hold on to my newspaper to put in front of my face?

Rekha

Yes, and I'll keep my little googly eyes. Yeah, I mean, I'll be honest, I didn't come here with a person to cheat with. I was kind of, I'm looking. So if you guys want to get a little table.

Erin

Oh, you're here to cheat as well?

Rekha

Oh, uh, that makes me feel a little bit better. Well, everyone in here is wearing fake mustaches, so this is becoming clear.

Adal

One guy's Israel that's you just upset him. He's walking out.

Erin

Oh, yeah, sorry.

JPC

This is also it's after six. So this is also a mustache fetish bar as well. Oh, great.

Erin

Perfect. Two birds, one stone.

Adal

Fantastic. Can I or I saw the specials. Can I go ahead and order now with you? I'm gonna have the open relationship face sandwich.

JPC

Okay, yeah, an open relationship face sandwich. And we can we can bring that to the table while I'm taking orders. I can take orders for everybody else.

Rekha

Yeah, and I'll split it with him. Also on the side. Welcome back! Well, I'm glad we're all splitting one open-faced sandwich!

01:00:50

???

Yes!

Rekha

One open-faced sandwich!

Adal

Just the one open-faced sandwich. All the windows are open. Can I add a dozen sides at different points in my life?

Rekha

Yes. And I'll be honest, the lentil soup is feeling kind of boring right now. So, can I get- I was gonna say, lentil soup?

JPC

Did you just go through a bad breakup?

Rekha

Oh God, you wouldn't- Well, I wish. I was breaking up with my wife, but I love her. So, is there any flashier kind of sides? You got, you know, something spicy?

JPC

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you could do you could do like a potatoes. Spicy potatoes. Yeah, like spicy potatoes.

Rekha

Spicy brave potatoes. Yeah.

JPC

This is a tapas style cheating restaurant as well. So it's like it's all it's all it's all small plates.

Adal

Oh, can I get a little bit of caffeine? It says here you have a special infidelity. Yeah, we have this. I'll take a cup of that.

JPC

Absolutely.

Erin

Oh my god. I think my husband Gary's in the corner. He's here to cheat too? Oh my god.

JPC

Not necessarily. A lot of people, a lot of people here are just here to be cucked. They want to, they want to see you. So it's, in best case scenario, I hope your Gary's a cuck.

01:02:00

Rekha

Or that he's part of the mustache convention. I don't know. Oh, that could be it.

Adal

I do see now that every table has a extra chair that's kind of 10 feet away facing the table.

JPC

Yeah, the restaurant is strategically positioned so that every table has a chair 10 feet away facing that table, but it's not with another. It's actually conceptually a very cool design. It's very nice. Yeah. Yeah, the whole place is a circle too. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's like the Space Needle.

Rekha

Wow.

JPC

I mean, except on the ground, obviously. I don't know why, as in Space Needle. Obviously, you walked in, you know, it's a ground, ground needle. Space Needle.

Rekha

If you want Gary to cuck us, or be the cuck, we could try that. I don't want to try that.

JPC

You don't have to tell me.

Erin

I've lost the thought of what we're whispering.

Adal

More signs, more signs. Jack and Sandra met in Iceland when he was on holiday there.

Rekha

As a result... This is the same couple.

01:03:02

Adal

Oh, I didn't even realize it's the same names. I guess... In Scotland, I think there's only like a handful of names actually. Jack and Sandra, a different Jack. For this answer, it has to be a different Jack and Sandra.

JPC

Little devil named Jack and Sandra.

Adal

Bon Jovi. That's incorrect. Jack and Sandra met in Iceland when he was on holiday there. As a result, Sandra is dead. Why? Women cheat, women die.

JPC

Women can be anything, even dead.

Adal

And I have some clues whenever you want them.

Rekha

Jack and Sandra met when he was in Iceland on holiday?

Adal

Correct. Jack and Sandra met in Iceland when he was on holiday there. As a result, Sandra is dead.

Rekha

Is there some dumb fucking bullshit?

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100%.

Rekha

Like he bought one ticket there, no ticket back or something for her or some shit like that.

Adal

I've heard a riddle that's that exact answer. This is not that one, but this is, I guarantee you, Rekha, something we've realized during 300 some episodes, most riddle answers are unbelievably frustrating, bordering on infuriating.

01:04:15

Erin

Yeah. They'll break ya.

Adal

This is one of those. This is one of those.

JPC

Here's my guess. Here's my guess. Jack is like a hunter and Sandra is like an elk or something. JPC, you fucking nailed it.

Adal

You nailed it, but Sandra is... Stop!

Erin

He fucking named her or she was named. We are 57 minutes into the episode. That's how long it took to break our guests with a riddle.

JPC

Casey, can you go ahead and insert when Rekha said at the top that Rekha loves riddles. We'll just go ahead and loop that.

Rekha

Riddles make me sick to my stomach.

Adal

If I see two boys in Ireland doing them on a bus, I will knock the riddle book out of their hands. We got another one.

Erin

Put it up on the board. Got another one. Took a while. Took an hour. We ruined something you liked.

Adal

Rekha, there's a camera there, camera there, hidden camera there.

Rekha

Oh my god. Jack meets Mary Kate Smith in Ireland and then she dies because Mary Kate Smith was an anti-Semite.

01:05:17

Adal

Wow, so Rekha, you don't think animals should have names. Interesting.

Erin

They are milk containers and nothing else.

Rekha

That's it! Egg containers, milk containers, venom containers.

JPC

Humans are milk containers and the cat's name was Oreo.

Rekha

You can dip inside a woman.

Adal

I do want to say in this Scottish Riddle book, Sandra is a whale and he is a- Jesus! He hunts whales. That's way worse. That's what they made Sandra versus an elk.

Rekha

If I'm doing a punch up on the riddle, And this probably makes it more obvious, but it's like Sandra dies, and Jack, like something has to happen within the poaching industry. Something like, you can't just kill whales, they're endangered. Like Jack, somebody comes out, but I can't be the police. I need a room to punch this up. So I'm going to contact them.

JPC

You're positing a world where some sort of whale gelante is like, Rekha is Jack needs to die. Jack needs to die for his crimes.

01:06:46

Adal

I do want to see one final scene before the end of the episode. One final scene. All three of you are whales and you are meeting for the first time after you overheard someone on land. You overheard a human on land talking to someone else and they used their names. You three whales have never had names. You're having a meeting after hearing other creatures have names to figure out what the next step is.

JPC

But, like, could it just be, like, anything?

Rekha

Listen, I've been doing some research. There's, like, some are named, like, you know, Sebastian. Some are named, like, Rover. Some of them's Puddles. It really feels like it could be anything.

Erin

Well, like, what is a name, right? It's like a way to get someone's attention. And when I want to get your attention, I go, So maybe that could be your name?

JPC

Here's the thing, I think, to be honest, if I can be honest, if I can be vulnerable for a moment, I think we all just make the craziest fucking sound we can possibly make and then every whale kind of turds their attention to us. I don't really think, right? We don't really need names because we just go like, ooooh, and then everybody looks.

01:08:02

Erin

What if I want to talk about you when you're not there?

Rekha

Oh my, are you introducing secrets into whale culture?

JPC

I guess so. Whoa! Secrets, secrets are no fun. Secrets, secrets hurt a whale.

Adal

Welcome everyone to the whale restaurant. This is a very discreet restaurant.

Rekha

I would like some open-faced krill. Can we get a side?

Adal

A krill on the side. No sides, no sides.

JPC

I'm just here to blubber. Bitty blubber.

Adal

Rekha, thank you so much for doing this podcast. We're thrilled to have dissuaded you from ever doing or enjoying Riddles again. Where can our listeners find you? Anything you'd like to plug or promote?

Rekha

Yeah, so currently I host a show called Smarty Pants on Dropout.tv. I'm also going to be in the newest season of Dimension 20, the tabletop RPG game on Dropout. And the season's called Never Stop Blowing Up, premiering June 26 at 4pm on Dropout. That's soon.

01:09:05

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Amazing.

Rekha

Yeah, so it's really soon. Please do not be floored and like shocked and scared. It's very soon. It's coming up.

Adal

Congrats. Can you, unless there's an NDA in place, can you mention like what the season's about in terms of like an overview theme or anything?

Rekha

Yeah, it's called Never Stop Blowing Up and it's a Jumanji style like action packed D&D season where we get sucked into a movie. And all the graphics are like super cool 80s like action movie tropes. I play You know, my character might be a couple of things, but one thing she is is like a hacker from those kind of movies. Oh, cool. Outstanding. And it is very stupid. I don't know how to hack.

Adal

Very excited to check that out. Thank you so much. Erin, anything to plug or promote?

Erin

I want you to check out our Patreon, patreon.com slash Hey Riddle Riddle. A lot of my favorite stuff is over there. We did April of the Penguins month. That was really fun. We've been laughing a lot in those episodes. If you want to check that out for a week for free, go to patreon.com slash Hey Riddle Riddle. Adal, do you have anything to plug?

01:10:14

Adal

Yes, I was recently a guest on the Burn Before Reading podcast, which is an absolute delight. We were talking about Clippy, the Microsoft icon, and how he came to be. And then at the end of it, we spent a good chunk of time reading some online Clippy smut, some like Clippy fanfiction, which is just incredible. So that is Burn Before Reading podcast, recommend checking that out. JBC, do you have a review to read?

JPC

Two things real quick. I do want to plug our live show in L.A. It is Sunday, July 14th at 7.30 p.m. It's at Dynasty Typewriter in L.A. You can get tickets at heyriddleriddle.com slash live. And it's live and live streamed. So if you're not in L.A., you can still get a live stream ticket and they're available to watch that live stream up to seven days after the show. That's always very fun. We love that venue. We love doing shows there. And then second of all, I actually, I never have anything to plug, but I was in my friend's web series that I shot a long time ago. But you can watch that web series now. It's our, Erin, our mutual friend Harrison Lott's web series. The best. I think you can find it by going to youtube.com backslash at symbol Harrison Lott, Harrison with two R's, Lott with two T's. You can probably also like Google like Harrison Lott web series and find that as well. But I'm, I'm in episode five, and I play a magician. And I had a friend see it. And they said, it looks like you and Harrison are just playing heightened versions of yourselves. And I said, yeah, we Just a magician who argues with a friend. That's exactly right.

01:11:43

Erin

I think the web series is amazing. And GPC, I think yours is my favorite episode in an already amazing web series.

JPC

I was talking to a friend of mine who was in an earlier episode and they were like, it sucks because the earlier episodes aren't as funny as the later episodes. And you got to do a funny episode. I was like, yeah, it sucks, but that's the way it works. But yeah, it was very fun to do. And I think it came out really well.

Adal

Oh, yeah. Do you have a review to read? No.

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Created by Adal Rifai, starring Erin Keif, and John Patrick Coan. Casey Toney did the editing, and Arnie Perrin did the music.

JPC

Hey there heart transplants and moon landings, if you liked that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. It's an improvised history class. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com. Hey Riddle Riddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your seven day free trial or the review crew for $8 a month. Plus you get those ad free episodes. See you there.

01:13:02

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