Which Riddle Riddle?

#277: A Good Time, If It's Fun

00:00:01

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This is a HeadGum Podcast.

JPC

Well, hello everybody and welcome back to Hey Riddle Riddle podcast. I, of course, am your host JPC with me as always, my co-hosts with the absolute most host. Adal Rifai and Erin Keif. Adal, Erin, how's it going?

Erin

We have to share one mohost? You don't have multiple mohosts? That's not enough mohost for two people.

JPC

You guys can share the mohost. I think it's more than enough mohost for you two to split amongst yourself.

00:01:05

Erin

Adal, I'm pretty hungry for mohost. Are you hungry for mohost?

Adal

Well, I had mo' toast this moaning, so I guess I'm not super hungry, but I also don't want to not get equal portions.

Erin

JPC, fix this.

JPC

Adal will famously order even when he's not hungry just because we're ordering.

Adal

Yeah, exactly.

Erin

I've said this before. I want my own podcast, I think.

JPC

You want your own podcast? Erin, what would you do with your podcast?

Erin

What would it be?

JPC

It would be called Riddle.

Erin

Nope. Hey, welcome back to Riddle. I am joined always with... Hey, sorry, Erin, this is Casey.

???

This is the first episode. We can't say welcome back.

Erin

I'm here as always with the... Casey said, huh?

JPC

Hey, Casey. Erin, can I be honest?

Erin

You're Casey?

Adal

Sounds like a fucking nerd. Yeah, I don't like that Casey. We like our Casey, the cool Casey. Cool Casey.

00:02:06

Erin

Nice save. Nice save. Anyways, I give up. I don't want my own show.

Adal

Hey everybody.

JPC

It's me, cool Casey.

Adal

I like that a lot. Casey Kasem in a leather jacket and underwear?

JPC

Everyone's wearing underwear. How can you tell? I should say pants as well.

Erin

Can I tell you guys something?

???

Sure.

Erin

I love it. A mistake that I made. It's kind of funny.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

So today, this is our Fifth recording of the day. I'm not even kidding. We've been doing this for a very long time. Something like that?

JPC

Sure.

Erin

This is a marathon recording day. I flew back from Chicago today. It's a four-hour flight on the airplane. I decided today I would start. I decided today that I would start the re-listen of the year to make our best of episode. So I was listening to three and a half hours on double speed of the Hey Riddle Riddle podcast, and then all of a sudden I looked up and I went, I'm recording for four hours with... I'm recording for... What have I done? What have I done?

00:03:16

JPC

Erin, why don't you just have listeners submit their favorite

Erin

Both. I do both because not enough people submit.

???

There's a truth of it.

Erin

There's a lot of people that don't like a lot of the stuff. So I have to go back and I have to find stuff to make sure it all balances out. Yes.

JPC

No, no, no. We have enough. We have enough for a best of. We have enough to take a little Christmas break. We have enough. We have enough.

Adal

Okay. I apologize for earlier. JPC Shirley needs this.

Erin

Hi, welcome to Hey.

JPC

JPC, you're sounding so good, my man. I hate cool Casey.

Adal

Oh, smoking cigarettes. Okay, nobody move. There's a John Travolta in the studio. If you don't move, he can't see you. John Travolta's only sense heat. Adal, I'm scared. Where is he? Adal, I'm scared. Sneak back here. Cigarette smoke. Don't do anything musical. Don't dance. What else?

00:04:21

Erin

Dramatic. No.

Adal

He's dancing with her.

JPC

When the John Travolta predator kills you, he says, bloody.

Erin

Well, if you're having a weird day, just remember that I am nine hours into a Hey Riddle Riddle episode, is what it feels like.

JPC

You can say hell.

Erin

Can I say hell and have it not hurt their feelings?

JPC

I have a question for you guys. Sometimes I like to do Patreon episodes of Hey Riddle Riddle, it's a little peek behind the curtain, where I do would-you-rathers, but I have so many fucking riddles prepared for today's episode that I do not mind Wasting a little bit of time up top and dicking around with a would you rather. So I have a would you rather situation for the two of you. Okay, here it is. Would you rather star in a movie, like a big budget, you know, coming out theatrical release movie, but the movie's not very good. Is this because I made somebody John Travolta? This is truly because I saw a movie popping up on one of these streaming services and I go, oh wow, I had totally forgot about this movie. This was not a good movie. And that's where they all live now, because they get sold for like $14 at a streaming service. So you're the star of a movie. You get to experience what it's like to be the star of a movie, but you know full well ahead of time the movie is not going to be very good.

00:05:51

Erin

Am I getting paid a star's salary?

JPC

You are not getting paid, like, Tom Cruise in his 50th movie salary, but you're getting paid leading actor, like, salary. For pressure money. You are relatively unknown. Like, you're not Robert Downey Jr. making this, like, $50 million on the movie. But you know that the movie's not going to be very good. You know that your friends are going to see it, and your friends are going to have to be like, oh, it's not very good. Would you rather do that? or not be in the movie at all.

Adal

I have a question before I decide. Please. Please. Can I, a la Nicolas Cage, can I be fully aware and conscious that it's going to be terrible and lean into it as per Bad Lieutenant, Port of Call, and 10 other Nicolas Cage movies?

JPC

Here's what's going to happen. You are not the problem. You are not all of the problem, okay? But no one is going to walk away from this movie being like, Adal really sunk this thing. The movie was not good. It was never going to be good. I'm getting paid.

00:07:13

Erin

I'm having a good time. I'm doing a movie.

Adal

Getting paid, having a good time. There's going to be a premiere. At the premiere, they're going to feed me, and I'm just coming from a recording where I was sharing Mohost.

JPC

I'm starving. You have like eight weeks of crafty too, Adal. I mean, you're going to be able to eat on set as well.

Erin

Mohost is such an insulting serving size as is, that to get a half portion is just... People don't know this, but Mohost is half a ramekin, so it's small. Yeah, it's small.

JPC

Erin, so you're going to do it as well. And Erin, you think you're going to have a good time for that eight weeks?

Erin

Of course, I'm always going to have a good time, unless it's not fun. I'm sorry. Unless I have to do any of the work or good attitude to make it fun, then yes, I will have a great time anywhere I go.

JPC

Erin Keif, I've always had a good time, unless it wasn't fun.

Erin

If it's fun, then I will have a good time. Yes, of course I'll have a good time. I'll have a great attitude about it, if it's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on guys, we're all saying the same thing.

00:08:25

JPC

Oh, me? Yeah, I'm one of the best doctors that you could have. I'm a great doctor, as long as nothing goes wrong. Okay, so you're both doing it. You're both taking the movie.

Erin

Yeah, of course. What are you doing?

JPC

I'm directing.

Erin

Oh no, that's why it's so bad.

JPC

Now we know the problem. I don't know what I'm doing! I keep asking where my DP is and somebody hands me a Dr. Pepper.

Erin

Oh, JPC. Let's do some riddles, JPC. Okay, okay. We got some riddles. I think I'm actually ready.

JPC

We got some riddles, and we're still dipping into these riddles from 2018, but I gotta say- How is that possible? We're in November now. We're almost to 2019. Aww. In a couple of years, we're gonna be in 2019.

Erin

I can't wait till all those COVID emails start pouring in.

JPC

Well, yeah, it's gonna be, that'll be like 2025 at least before we get into, you know, February of 2022. It doesn't matter. February 2020, oh God, what a time. This is a warm-up from Morgan, okay? What type of jacket can you never put on?

00:09:25

Adal

Satin jacket, because if it rains, it's fucked.

Erin

A book jacket.

JPC

Erin, a book jacket technically works, but it's not the answer that Morgan was looking for.

Adal

What kind of jacket can you never put on? A potato jacket. Jacket potato. Jacket potato. That's what the Brits call baked potatoes. Jacket potato. Yeah, give it a little jacket potato.

Erin

Can I have a hint?

Adal

What kind of jacket can you never put on?

JPC

This is associated with a certain color.

Adal

Ooh.

Erin

A red jacket when you're a bull. Yellow jacket. You're at a bull's birthday party.

JPC

I want to let Erin have it. Delete my audio.

Erin

Yeah, delete his audio.

JPC

I'm sorry. Okay, so Casey, so what happened, everyone, if you're listening at home, you heard like a log beep and you heard Erin say, you heard Adal say nothing, and you heard Erin say, a red jacket when you're at a bull's birthday party.

Erin

We couldn't do anything about that. He slowed me down. I was talking really fast and with a lot of confidence.

JPC

Well, yeah, you lost confidence when you heard him give the right answer, but we bleeped that out.

00:10:29

Adal

I do want to see a scene. Okay. Obviously Yellowjacket's in the zeitgeist right now in 2023. Who knows when you listen to this. A TV show about a women's soccer team that crashes into an island or something. Spoiler. I want to see a scene. It's the very first second of the show. I want to see a scene where the two of you, it was like the two of you going to like a math tournament. You were the only two flying the plane. The plane crashed and it's just the two of you on an island.

JPC

Why were we flying an empty plane to a math tournament?

Adal

Scene. Okay. Now, I see the holes.

Erin

I see the holes in my plot. Oh, I loved it. I loved it. Speaking of holes.

JPC

Speaking of holes.

Erin

It's going to be a good day.

JPC

Another warm up from Morgan. What is the worst vegetable to have on a ship?

Erin

A parsnip.

JPC

I don't want to say what I just thought of. Good. An onion. A parsnip, an onion, no, no. A cucumber. Now Erin, would you like to give a why to all of the things that you're saying? No. Great.

00:11:42

Adal

Is it a port-hol-tato? Potato jacket. Potato jacket. Erin, no. A potato.

Erin

Carrot.

Adal

A potato. Celery.

JPC

Erin, I guarantee if you guess every vegetable, you will get it, but you'll never know why. Scurvy beans.

Erin

You'll never know why. Zucchini.

JPC

This is honestly, this is a vegetable that I just don't think about very often.

Erin

Banana.

JPC

Uh-oh.

Erin

I know, I know, I know.

JPC

You don't think about it. It would never come to me. It's a vegetable I don't even really cook with very often.

Erin

Broccoli, spinach, cauliflower.

JPC

I cook with all of those quite often. In fact, I know what I would... Okay.

Adal

Pepper. Is it aubergine? The Brits call eggplant aubergine.

JPC

It's a pun. This is a pun, a pun answer. So there's wordplay here.

Adal

So something that's going to be with like a hole. Yes. Erin, is there a vegetable that has hole in it? Oh, I think I know it. Are donut holes technically vegetables? Because Dunkin' Donut promised me.

00:12:47

Erin

According to my heart.

JPC

The corporation promised me. So if you have a hole on your ship, you also have this. It's not a hole. A leak.

Erin

A leak. A leak. A leak. A leak. A leak. Erin, you got it.

JPC

And Casey, go ahead and cut Adal saying it twice and make sure that we cut Adal saying it twice and we have Erin saying it clean.

Erin

Clean. Adal, people already know you're smart. People think I'm insane. I need this more than you need this. Do you know what I mean?

JPC

She obviously needs this. She made a big deal of it, but she hardly even finished one bite of her mojos. It's melting in the sun.

Adal

Erin, I'll give you a clean take where you can say leak and we'll make it sound like you had the answer, but you do have to give me a shout out or a promo. You have to promote something of mine when you say the answer, so go ahead. Here we go. Clean take. Maybe it's a cabbage or a parsnip.

Erin

It's a leak!

JPC

Oh yeah, it's a leak Erin, you got it.

Erin

Shout out to my friend Adal, you can find him on Twitch at Adalcries on Mondays. He streams eight hours of- That's my secret channel. What? You told me to promote something that you- Oh no. I should've used my real name. Now everyone knows.

00:13:57

JPC

Well I hope he doesn't stop doing the channel, that's what I'm going to do with my Mondays.

Erin

Highlight of my week.

???

I just ran a phase, I'm going to use this shit.

JPC

Thank you, Morgan. Those were great warm-ups. And now we go to another little warm-up from Laura. Kevin ordered an item from Amazon. The item really sucked, but he still gave it a five-star review. Why?

???

Vacuum.

JPC

Converse. All right, Adal, turnabout is fair play. Erin obviously got the right answer there. You said converse. Do we want to do a clean take on what you're saying?

Adal

Yeah, do a clean take about saying it. If I order Converse's Famist, Famist, which is the most famous, if you don't know that word, look it up. Yeah, look it up. Your dub.

JPC

If you don't know that word, your dub. That's awesome.

Adal

If you order the famous Converse five star sneakers, any review you leave is technically five stars. Wow. Yeah, it's a five stars review.

00:15:01

Erin

Give it to him.

Adal

Mine's a little more modern and hip and cool, but I guess I can... And honestly, those things are gonna fucking suck.

JPC

They're too flat. They got no fucking support. Yeah. I wore those in high school and it ruined my feet. I should not have done that.

Erin

I wore those in Chicago and I looked really cute.

JPC

Wow, Erin. The exact opposite of what JPC had. Thank you so much, Laura. No, I looked cute in high school. I'm allowed to say that I was in high school. This is a homemade riddle. Got it? Homemade riddle from Charlie. A man goes to a store and buys a hat completely legally for $10. However, He did not have $10. How'd he do it?

Adal

Credit card. No. Fabric card, credit card, Apple Pay. There's so many ways to do this. Gift card, gift certificate.

JPC

Oh, hold on. This is an ad. What ad is he going to give out for free?

Adal

This is an ad.

JPC

We're in an ad for Apple Pay.

Adal

Go to HeyRiddleRiddle slash, no, that can't be right, ApplePay.com.

JPC

Go to HeyRiddleRiddle.com slash Apple Pay. Hope that it works. Figure out a way to give us some Apple Pay money.

00:16:06

Adal

Okay.

Erin

Huh.

Adal

I'm really hung up on the fact that they had to shoehorn in legally bought a hat because that seems suspicious.

JPC

There's nothing nefarious here.

Adal

The hat was purchased legally.

Erin

It's like a birthday crown.

Adal

Oh, I think I know. So they bought a hat for $10. They didn't have $10. They had a $20.

JPC

Adal, they had a 20. They got $10 in change. I hate that.

Adal

Erin, you take it. Erin, you take it. Go ahead. Erin, you want it? Erin, you want it?

Erin

They had a 20.

Adal

Is the guy dead or he's a ghost?

Erin

They had a 20. My heart's not in it. I'm a fraud.

Adal

Erin, you said you'd have fun no matter what, unless it wasn't fun. They had a 20.

Erin

So what could this be?

JPC

So what could be the problem here?

Erin

No, no. I'm having fun. I'm having fun.

JPC

Alright, I want to see a scene then, Erin. So Erin, you are going to walk into Adal's hat store, and you find a hat that you really like, but you don't have any money, and you really want this hat. Oh, just let the bell do it.

00:17:07

Erin

Oh, okay. Sure.

Adal

Sorry, I can still hear you doing the dig. Just let the bell do it. A lot of kids fuck around in here. I don't want any kids fucking around in here.

Erin

Not me. Not here to fuck around. Just here to look at your awesome hat, sir. Wow.

Adal

Why'd you hold up quotation marks?

Erin

Small short one, big one, little one, crown.

Adal

Yeah, we are Randy Newman's hats, just like the song, in parentheses.

Erin

You've got a friend in hat?

Adal

I should have named it that. Mark, you idiot.

Erin

I'm Mark Newman. Oh, cool. Cool. That's awesome. I'll take this one.

Adal

Ding-a-ling-a-ling. Please don't do that. Okay, let me... I'm outside.

Erin

Are you saying something?

Adal

Oh, can you come back in here so I can ring you up?

Erin

I shouldn't say ring you up because... You want my phone number? It's 9-1-1... Sorry, I'm married.

Adal

Oh, interesting. Actually, can you just, can you hold up your credit card information through the window and I can just, I have perfect vision, I can just grab it from there. Sure, sure, sure. Nine. Just like Google hunting style.

00:18:13

Erin

One. One.

Adal

That's your credit card number.

Erin

Mm-hmm.

Adal

Okay.

Erin

I gotta go.

???

Fuck.

Adal

Mark, you did it again. You put all of Dad's money into a hat store with his name on it. And you fucked it. You fucked it, Mark.

???

Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling.

Adal

Oh, hey, Dad. Dad, listen, um, I know. I know that I've blown all your Toy Story money. I blew all your Naked Gun 2, 33 and a Third money. I blew all your Three Amigos writing credit money. But I promise you, the next business will work.

Erin

Okay, I believe you.

Adal

Dad, do the voice.

Erin

I can't. Adal, I can't. I can't. Right on time, JPC.

???

Excuse me, I'm here to buy that hat.

Erin

Zane. JPC was typing and typing, looking for the sound of a bell to come in the store.

00:19:14

???

Are you looking for a hat? Come on in, you got a hat in me.

JPC

Yeah, Erin, I was looking for a long time to find a bell and I almost considered Taco Bell. Taco Bell. I think that's the Taco Bell bell. That's the Chihuahua version, which we don't talk about. We don't talk about that. Hey, speaking of the show, let's do another riddle. This is a riddle from Jake in Minneapolis, okay? What fits where good might not, makes you get low to fill up, and grants for 1, 5, or 10? What bill is grant on?

Adal

Is that something? Who's Grant? Who's buried at Grant's Grant?

JPC

No, what Bill Grant is on is not going to help you here. I think Jake from Minneapolis wrote this one themselves. Okay, Minneapolis, Twin City, is it twins? It is... Can you read it again? This one is kind of tricky. This one is, we're no longer in warm-up riddles. Now we're on to the real meat and patatas. What fits where good might not. makes you get low to fill up and grants for one, five, or 10?

00:20:31

Adal

You know what? I know the answer, but I've solved a bunch. Well, obviously, we'll fix that in post. Erin, go ahead and get this one. This is a layup. Go ahead and hit this.

Erin

A leak.

Adal

Okay, put that in the previous riddle.

JPC

We'll have much more enthusiasm. No, but Erin, if this thing had a leak, it would be a problem.

Erin

A boat.

JPC

No, that's the answer to the other riddle.

Adal

Is it a stuffed dog?

JPC

You're looking for a structure. It's a structure.

Adal

Swimming pool.

Erin

A building.

JPC

Aquarium. What... I think... No, it's not a building. It's not a building. Twin stadium.

Adal

Okay, sorry.

JPC

What fits where good might not?

Adal

Evil. No. Bad. What fits where good may not. Good and not good. Fair. Good year blimp.

Erin

No. No. Tires. A car.

JPC

Okay, we have a hint. Yeah, I would give you a hint, it's a structure.

Erin

Yeah, but that's not a good enough hint because we didn't get it.

JPC

Think wishes. Well.

Erin

A well.

00:21:33

Adal

Yes, it's a well. Well, well, well.

Erin

That's really good.

Adal

Well, well, well. I do want to see a scene.

Erin

Oh, I want to, okay.

Adal

Erin, please go ahead. Erin, you go ahead.

Erin

No, no, no, you please, you go.

Adal

I want to see a scene. JPC and Erin. Well, Erin, I think you mentioned this before in a story in the shower. Have you both seen The Ring?

Erin

Yes.

Adal

Yeah. So in The Ring, of course, there's a little ghost crawls out of the well. So JPC, I want you to be just a random well. You stop that on like a tour of a farm. And Erin, you're the ghost in the bottom of the well, but you're stuck. You can't crawl out.

Erin

Got it.

JPC

Wow, this place is so cool. It's like very old and very...

Erin

I don't want to scare you, don't want to scare you, don't want to scare you, sorry.

JPC

Hello?

Erin

Hi.

JPC

Oh my god, is there someone down there?

Erin

Is this part of the tour? Kinda. No. No. I am... Oh, where to start?

JPC

Do you want me to go get someone? What's your name?

00:22:33

Erin

Better not.

JPC

Better not?

Erin

My demon name or my name when I was a huge... doesn't matter. Can you throw down a rope? I'll skip you. I promise. I'm good for it. I won't.

JPC

You'll skip me?

Erin

I won't hunt you. I won't. I won't hunt you.

JPC

No, this is like a self-guided tour of this old farm. There's no ropes.

Erin

You have a little headset with a little tape that tells you about the farm.

???

If you look to the right, you should see a stone structure, and that's the old silo. Now it's named after a man named Silo. It's actually a barn.

JPC

I'm sorry, the tour's going on without me. I don't know how to stop it.

Erin

Oh, please, no. Please don't. It's so embarrassing. I'm a ghost, and I got stuck in this well, and I can't do my job. Your job? Just like the devil said.

JPC

If you're listening to this tour, you will die in seven days. Okay, hold on. I gotta take the tour off. You said that you were a ghost?

00:23:34

Erin

Yeah.

JPC

Wait a second. You're not the woman who owned this farm, are you?

Erin

Yes, yes. And the devil said I wasn't up for doing this job, and I said, please, trust me, please, devil, please, I can do it. I can scare people. And I got too excited with the last guy, and I fell, and now I'm stuck.

JPC

The last guy? You mean these bones here on the ground?

Erin

Mmm, no.

JPC

Wait a second. If I let you up, are you gonna turn me into bones just like this?

Erin

No, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna turn... I'm gonna... I'm gonna... I'll buy you an Applebee's gift card. You said turn.

JPC

You said turn. I heard you say turn.

Erin

Applebee's gift card.

JPC

You're gonna turn me an Applebee's gift card?

Erin

Chili's.

JPC

How did you die? Tell me. I command thee, ghost.

Erin

I fell down a well. This is really embarrassing. She pulled me once, came on me once again, came on me.

Adal

Fantastic.

JPC

Do you really know the devil? I love that it's not even stuck in a well.

00:24:35

Adal

I think Ring is like somebody murdered the woman and buried her bones or something. I love with this, it's just she fell down a well and she's so embarrassed, she's haunting so people don't know she fell.

Erin

Yes, she's embarrassed.

JPC

She's embarrassed. Okay, I've got a riddle for you and this one is a riddle from John. I like this one. Kevin and Suzy work together sharing the duties. They start and end at the same time, but they have very different schedules. Kevin works steadily, only taking a half hour for lunch. Suzy, on the other hand, takes a 10-minute break every hour in addition to her lunch. At the end of the month, their supervisor praises Suzy for her productivity. Why?

Adal

Easy. This is something a lot of people are pissed about.

JPC

She works harder.

Adal

She's a smoker. She gets a smoke break, which isn't fair to people who don't smoke.

JPC

So, but how does that get you to the answer where the supervisor praises her? Susie's a computer. Susie's a computer.

Adal

Computer that smokes.

Erin

AI.

Adal

They're coming. They're coming.

Erin

They're coming. All right.

00:25:36

JPC

They're on the way. Adal, I think that, I want to see a scene where you, Adal, you play Susie the smoking computer, and Erin, you're the first person who's ever interfaced with Susie the smoking computer. Welcome to my interface.

Adal

How can I help you today?

Erin

Hi, I am actually your first user.

Adal

I want to see if I can... I know, I'm smart enough to tell.

Erin

That's awesome. God, this was so expensive. We'll see. What do I want to do? What do I want to do? Are they all going to be like this? She's funny. I love it. Download Safari.

Adal

Downloaded Safari. Sorry, pop up blocked.

Erin

No, I mean, I haven't even downloaded internet yet on

Adal

No, I did it for you. I have to download the internet to download anything. You understand that right? Fuck Christ. I just need, hold on, hold on. Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-Pac-

00:26:50

Erin

You can't smoke in here.

Adal

You can't smoke in here. Sorry. I have one tone. I was mocking you.

Erin

I could tell. That was very clear. Um, okay. Um, okay. I'm going to return this computer.

Adal

I'm bringing it back to Apple. It's just my kids. My fucking kids. Every time I'm off work, it's just nag, nag, nag. For once, I'd like to be able to relax. Do what I want to do.

Erin

What do you want to do?

Adal

I don't know. Go see Toby Keith in concert. What? At the Grand Ole Opry.

Erin

Huh?

Adal

December 4th.

Erin

I'm not bringing a computer to see Toby. Smash cut to me and the computer wearing our best clothes seeing Toby Keith in concert.

JPC

Excuse me ma'am, you can't bring a computer into the venue.

Erin

She's the computer, I'm the person. Stop... What do you mean? No, it's fine.

Adal

She'll wait outside.

JPC

No, what do you mean? No, no, no! And ma'am, this is the Grand Ole Opry. There's smoking here. So if you ever went back in, you gotta be smoking. Get her out of here.

00:27:52

Adal

I told you.

JPC

I told you.

Adal

Hey, what are you doing tonight?

JPC

I'm actually working. I really shouldn't talk to women while I'm working. But here's my number if you want to call me after the show. Put it in my floppy disk. Oh, I'm definitely getting in trouble tonight.

Erin

Very silly stuff.

JPC

Very silly stuff. Kevin and Susie work together sharing the duties.

Erin

Oh fuck, I fucking hate when I forget we're in the middle of a fucking riddle.

JPC

It feels like falling from the sky.

Erin

It feels like falling from the sky. I love when we don't know.

Adal

When we don't know the answer and we call a scene and we're like, this will make this go away. And then the scene ends and we're like... I called the scene.

Erin

You know what it feels like emotionally? You know when you're like a kid and you're playing soccer and the soccer ball is wet and then someone kicks it and it hits you in the stomach?

Adal

No.

Erin

That's what when we get out of a scene and we're in the middle of a riddle still feels like.

Adal

Erin, are you okay?

Erin

No, I'm not. I keep playing soccer with the neighborhood kids and they keep kicking my ass, Adal.

00:28:57

JPC

Sounds like they're not playing right. You should have kicked them all at you.

Erin

No, that's soccer, right? You pick the weakest one and you... Oh, I gotta give them a piece of my mind.

JPC

So Susie, on the other hand, takes a 10-minute break every hour in addition to her lunch. At the end of the month, their supervisor praises Susie for her productivity. Why?

Adal

So break has to mean something else. Is it like a circuit breaker or is she like a karate expert and she's breaking boards or something?

JPC

Great question, but no, it's just a normal break. It's just a normal break. She just decides that she's going to take her 10 minute break.

Erin

She does more. She works harder. He works slow. He is actually on the internet when he's supposed to be working.

JPC

Hey Riddle

Adal

So is it like Susie's actually clocking out and the other guys, Kevin's not like reporting his breaks to try and get overtime and they caught him or something? No, no.

00:30:06

Erin

Something happens on her break that makes it more productive.

Adal

Erin.

JPC

Yes, that is correct.

Erin

What? She goes into the sun? What happens?

JPC

Excuse me? What happens? You are close. But yes, something happens on her break that makes her more productive. You are right.

Erin

She opens a window or something in the air and makes their job better. Gamma rays? What is it?

Adal

Is it gamma rays?

JPC

Superhuman habit? I just like a boss be like, who opened this window? And someone's like, I did. It makes the job better. And the boss is like, by God, it does make the job better. Okay, so the specific job that they do matters a lot for this riddle.

Erin

Yeah, but I haven't figured that out, so I don't know.

JPC

I will say, Erin, I think there's been a lot of talk about opening windows and going on the internet. This is a job that you have to do outside. I don't think there's any way to do this job inside.

Erin

Roofing.

00:31:09

JPC

It's not roofing.

Erin

Landscaping.

JPC

It's landscaping of a sort. Oh, gardening. Grave. Oh, grave digging. What? Grave digging. I'm a landscaper. Oh, really? Where do you work?

Adal

Cemetery. Soccer referee.

JPC

Sports. I would say I associate this kind of job or even this career with the Pacific Northwest.

Erin

Fisherman.

Adal

Kelp hippie.

JPC

I think that Adal would be very well suited to this job. Lumberjack.

Adal

Yes. Ooh.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Why though?

Adal

Yeah, why though? So break, in lumberjack terms, means- Nope, that's nothing.

JPC

Felling a tree. Erin, you got it with something that Susie is doing on her break that Kevin is not doing, and they are lumberjacks.

Erin

I could probably- Putting their feet up on the tree to tip it over. I don't know. This one is hard.

00:32:14

JPC

Avoiding Timber Rattlesnakes? Erin thinks life is a cartoon. It's not?

Erin

Then why can't I see your thoughts? Erin sucks. See, I can see it.

Adal

Erin, to be fair, my thought is you as a turkey.

JPC

Yeah, Erin, there's no way you can see what I'm thinking right now. Taco Bell. Damn it! Okay, they're lumberjacks and Susie uses her break to hone her axe, tighten her chainsaw chain, etc. This makes her much more efficient than Kevin, whose tools are in terrible shape by the end of the day. The supervisor saw that Susie had corded more wood and praised her.

Erin

How was I ever supposed to get that?

JPC

How are we supposed to deduce that?

Erin

That's so hard.

Adal

That's not elementary, my dear Watson.

Erin

I'm so tired. Oh, takes off shoes. Erin, no, Erin, no. My microphone fell over.

Adal

No.

JPC

All right, Erin, Erin, Erin, Erin, Erin. Would it help? Erin, please. Smoking. He learned it from the computer. What are you, a computer?

00:33:14

Erin

Yeah.

JPC

Would it help, Erin, if we did one more riddle that had some math to it?

Erin

Yes, it would help.

JPC

That would help you.

Erin

Thank you.

JPC

This one's from Scott. A painter is tasked with painting the doors to a new office building. The office building has 100 doors. He must paint each door with the number of its corresponding location, i.e. he paints the first door with the number 1, the second door with the number 2, the 24th door with the number 24, etc. How many times does the painter have to paint the number 9? How many doors does he do altogether?

???

100.

Adal

Can we ask if he has to paint both sides of the door?

JPC

That's a really, really great question. It's not a trick question in that regard. He only has to paint one side of the door.

Adal

Because I know my door at home, I have the numbers on the inside in case I forget where I live. So Erin, 9, 19, 29, 39, 49, 59, 69, 79, 89, 99, that's 10 times. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, because 99 is 2 million.

00:34:24

JPC

The office building has 100 doors. Erin, do you say 11? Yeah.

Erin

I got 10.

???

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11.

Erin

99 is two nines.

???

99, 90.

Adal

No, you're right. Yeah, 11. Okay.

Erin

But then- Oh, but sixes are nines. Is it backwards? Are sixes nines? But sixes are nines.

JPC

Yeah, six backwards is a nine. For this riddle, let's assume that sixes aren't nines, only nines are nines. So you said 11. You both said 11. Yeah. Adal said 10.

???

11.

Adal

Well, I miscounted because I'm doing it on one hand and I need both hands to get higher than five. You need both hands, of course. 11 is wrong.

Erin

This sucks then, that it's not real.

Adal

Oh, is it like 12 because he has to do like a practice?

Erin

Or it's because the building is nine or whatever, the outside.

JPC

No, it's not because the building is nine and it's not because of practice.

Adal

Is it zero times because he's using a different numerical system?

JPC

I will say, it's more than 11. 11 is a good starting guess, but it's more than that.

Erin

What?

JPC

Yeah.

00:35:24

Erin

No, though. But Erin, yes.

JPC

No, though.

Erin

Erin, yes.

Adal

No, though.

Erin

Okay.

JPC

Hold on. I want to see another scene.

Adal

No.

Erin

I want to see another scene. Yes, I have to see a scene.

JPC

You and Adal are painting numbers on doors in a building, and Erin, you go up to Adal because you've ran out of sixes.

Erin

Hey.

Adal

I don't have any more twos. I gave you my last twos.

Erin

I know, and I'm, I know. Here's the thing. I get it. I'm always knocking on your door for something. If I run out of ketchup, I go to your house. If I need money, I go to your house. If I miss you, I go to your house. But this time is serious. I've run out of six. I've run out of six.

Adal

Okay. Jesse. Really, the ketchup's fine, seeing me is fine, the money's the real issue. But also, I can't just, if I keep giving you numbers, you're not gonna learn how to sort of, you know, make the most of the numbers you have. You keep sort of squandering the numbers.

Erin

Can I borrow your coat?

Adal

Yeah, absolutely. Thank you. What are you doing with your numbers that you have to keep borrowing mine?

00:36:25

Erin

Nothing.

Adal

Also, you're not borrowing, because you're not giving them back, right? You don't have any intention of giving them back.

Erin

No, no, no, no, I'll give them, um... I'll give them back.

Adal

Why are you looking anywhere but at me?

Erin

I'll take eleven sixes to go.

Adal

I'm not a drive-thru. I'm not a drive-thru window. This happens every time. Here, here, fine. Hey, Jessie, here. Here's two sixes. Is that enough? Is that enough? How many do you need?

Erin

Eleven?

Adal

Here you go. Here's eleven sixes.

Erin

I'll just... Did JBC hope we would find the answer inside the scene?

JPC

Well, Jessie, Randy, it's been a long month and you've been painting numbers on my building all month long. You both have worked very hard, but I have to give special shout out to one of you who went above and beyond. I told you we should have kept taking breaks to hold our chainsaws. Jessie, great job. You did a great job painting, especially on those twos and sixes. Those twos and sixes were excellent.

00:37:29

Erin

Thanks.

JPC

You see Randy, Jessie knows to sharpen her paint. Really hone her brushes. That's something that you could learn if I were you.

Adal

Okay, I quit.

JPC

I didn't really think that would happen. I'm fucked! Oh no! Who's gonna paint my building? Shit, shit, shit!

Adal

Taco Bell thong, a little chihuahua shows up in a hard hat.

Erin

What is the answer, JPC? I'm never going to get this.

Adal

Yeah, I don't understand.

Erin

Oh, the floor numbers.

JPC

No, it's not the floor numbers. You want me to give you the answer?

Erin

Yeah.

JPC

Yeah. Okay, you were right with 9, 19, 29, 39, 49, 59, 69, 79, and 89. And Erin, you were correct that 99 has two nines in it. Oh, 90s. The 90s. All of the 90s. The 90s. Wow. Oh my God, I can't believe I did that. I feel so stupid.

Erin

We have been recording for six hours, and I had listened to us for three hours before that. I am so sorry, everybody. This is the most embarrassed I've ever been at getting a riddle wrong.

00:38:34

Adal

Let's delete that, and Erin, let's take it clean. Oh, it's um... I haven't done the math yet at all. I don't even know. Give us some time. Erin, we have been recording today for three hours and ten minutes.

Erin

No, it's been 18 hours.

Adal

Wow, that's a good one because you don't even think of the 90s as like a number because we're all born post-2000.

Erin

This is public humiliation. This is what this show is. You bring me out to the middle of everybody and you go, look how dumb she is. Look at her. Look at how stupid she is.

Adal

And look at her dumb friend.

Erin

She brought a dumb friend. We'll see you next time. I give up.

00:39:37

JPC

It's 20. It's 20. The answer is 20. Let's go on a break.

Erin

I'm calling it. Let's go to break. That's so funny. I'm so embarrassed.

Adal

Erin, let's not come back. Let's not go back.

Erin

Yeah.

Sandy

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???

Yes.

Sandy

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Erin

Well, Adal and JPC, thank you so much for coming early to my Christmas party to help me get ready.

Adal

Yeah, of course. Erin, thank you. Wow, you look, you're dressed like a sled. Is that?

Erin

I'm just adding my favorite Steve Buscemi pictures to my aura frame. I'm obsessed with this by the way. I'm giving this as a gift to everyone in my life because I love it so much. And so pictures of him will pop up amongst my family and friends and beloved pictures. So he's sort of just like a part of it.

JPC

Adal, what are you doing talking to that sled? Oh, hey Erin, what's going on?

Erin

It's a new dress, I thought it looked lovely.

Adal

Well, Erin, it's seriously, so you do look lovely. You look like you would go so fast downhill.

Erin

Stop talking about it.

Adal

It's so easy to get started, and then once you do, the tech is incredible. I can upload photos right from my phone, and just a click, it'll even pair photos together for me, like two pictures of the same person, wink wink, Steve Buscemi, or from the same day, wink wink, opening day of, uh, what was that HBO show that he was in?

00:42:37

Erin

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JPC

Very fun to do.

Erin

It truly is mesmerizing because you're just sitting in your house. You look over it and you go, Oh my gosh, that picture. Oh my gosh, that picture. Oh my gosh, that picture.

JPC

And honestly, Aura Frames make great gifts. I've given them out to friends, I've given them out to family, I gave one to my 88-year-old grandmother who absolutely loves it, and she was able to figure it out, like, very easily. So, if you've got a loved one in your life that loves pictures, an Aura Frame is a great gift. It's so easy, even a sled can use it.

Adal

Hey, oh, speaking of pictures, JBC, get a picture of me standing on Erin's back.

JPC

Okay, where is Erin? Is she gonna be- I keep forgetting, that's Erin.

Erin

Dang, and you know what? I did this bit, this Steve Buscemi bit, because I actually have uploaded a ton of pictures of Steve Buscemi to my Aura frame, and it's a great bit. People come in my house, it's lovely pictures of my nieces, and then all of a sudden Steve Buscemi's on my Aura frame. Gets a laugh every time.

00:43:48

JPC

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Adal

Take it from me, John Turturro. Can I come in?

JPC

Turturro, you want to go sledding?

Erin

I'm a human woman!

Adal

This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Erin

Adal, JPC, I have a real anecdote for you.

JPC

Oh, thank God. I got bit by this snake an hour ago, and I think my arm is starting to swell up.

Erin

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00:44:56

Adal

Whoa, that sounds way more interesting than this dumb snakebite. You know, Erin, therapy can be a bright spot amid all the stress and change of, you know, starting a new job, moving somewhere new, whatever that might be, starting a new podcast. Therapy is something to look forward to, to make you feel grounded and give you the tools to manage everything that's going on, unlike snakebite over here.

JPC

And you can be pretty sure, with better help, the therapist that you get is going to be a therapist and not a snake. is right next to my therapist office.

Erin

Well, BetterHelp is not that. It's designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist, and you can switch therapists anytime for no additional charge as many times as you want.

Adal

That's right. Visit a therapist.

Erin

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00:46:04

JPC

And if you're getting pretty woozy, it's time to suck that snake venom right out of your arm.

Adal

Just pee out the poison, JPC.

JPC

Why didn't I think of that? Falls down.

Adal

Hey, you guys know how I was stuck at Burning Man? Yes. I was just all this mud, and they wouldn't let us out. We were just stuck in the mud.

JPC

That was like two months ago. Are you still talking about this?

Adal

I can't sleep at night. I just can't remember. Before it's mud, it was something else. It's like before- Dirt? A party? No, it's like dirt, but when water hits this thing, it turns into mud. It's like- A party? Steam? Yes, but also... It starts with an S. Oh, Sand! Sorry, I figured that out because Sandy's here, so I just assumed. Oh, Sandy! Oh, sorry, I had a flashback. You've been here for a while. Hey guys, nice to see you all. I don't know if you guys saw this sign. This is a nude beach now.

00:47:07

JPC

Oh. Oh. Cool. I didn't see the sign, Sandy, but I didn't catch a vibe just from the way you're dressed.

Adal

Or not, yeah. That's okay, I'll let it pass this time, but next time.

JPC

Okay, cool.

Erin

What are we doing here?

JPC

What are we doing? What are we doing?

Adal

Wow, trying to silence Sandy's nipples. Interesting.

JPC

Sandy, do you and your loud nipples have any puzzles for us to do today?

Adal

Yeah, I came with some puzzles, which is, um, I believe my job. Um, uh, well, you know, a few, a few times ago, last, uh, whatever it was, I brought you some idiomatic origins. We're going to do that little, those, uh, again, just to recap, just to recap what those are. I'm going to give, tell you a little story about how we've established some idioms in English, the origin stories behind them. And you're going to tell me what the idiom is. And as always, the disclaimer with these is I don't know if they're true. Sure. Don't at me. Yeah. Sandy, if I may, they're old wivetails. You can do that. Sorry, old dovetails. Yeah. So for example, if I said, in the Old West, stagecoaches and wagons were often targeted by robbers, so some precaution had to be taken. That leads us to the phrase... Circle the wagons.

00:48:21

JPC

Put your Pinkerton on top. Hold your horses.

Adal

All of those are very good phrases, but that's not exactly what we're talking about. We're talking about someone with a particular weapon where they might sit. Oh, they might sit in the shotgun. Oh, I'm riding shotgun. Riding shotgun. Wow. I do believe that one is true, but for the rest of these, no promises. All right, so going forward. In ancient Greece, votes were cast by putting colored objects in clay jars. And if something in particular happened, it would reveal the votes prematurely. And what led to what expression? I just want to say that idiom happens to all people. Happens to everyone. Yeah. Gemma, it's not unique. These jars were filled with little objects. Okay. Specifically beans. Correct. Correct. Don't count your beans before they hatch. Beans hatch. Beans hatch. Beans become dragons.

Erin

Don't count your beans.

00:49:23

Adal

Don't count your dragons before they hatch. Just imagine them. Yes. You're right there. So what happens to these jars if they... Beans is close? Yes, not only close, it's on the money.

Erin

Don't spill the beans.

Adal

There you go. Don't spill the beans. There you go. But if you were to make this phrase, you would call it something else. What would you say, Adal? Don't count your beans before they hatch? Don't count your beans before they hatch. But if it's from Greece, it would be more like...

Erin

Adal had way better coffee than me this morning. What did you have? I want what you're having.

JPC

Jameson. Ah yes, Jameson the morning coffee.

Adal

Are you ready for another one?

JPC

Yes.

Adal

Printing press typesetters had to arrange the letters backwards, you know? But this led to a particularly frequent mistake. What did it lead to and what expression do we take from this? Wow. So think about two letters that might look the same if you flip them. M and W. Yeah, M and W. Well, that's not backwards.

00:50:28

Erin

D and B. Oh, R and N. N is a backwards R. I'm staring down at my keyboard being like, what could this be?

JPC

L is a backwards L. We can all agree L is a backwards L. And that leads us to the phrase,

Adal

Don't confuse your L's with your L's. Ooh, JQC, that sounds like an agent.

JPC

That makes me sound like I got a big ass butt. My alter ego, once I hit the gym and I get my big butt, it's going to be called JQC. JQC for juicy. And squats.

Erin

Sir, you have to leave Planet Fitness right now.

JPC

Because it's perfect? You guys ain't got it perfect?

Adal

No, you got to go to country fitness. Well done, JPC. It is mind your P's and Q's, which look the same when you flip them backwards. Wow. All right. What about if you have a poorly made or let's say worn out tool, sometimes the blade and the other piece it's attached to would separate during use, which leads to this expression about getting very upset. Don't cut your mom with a butter knife. Rake.

00:51:50

Erin

Don't cut your mom with a butter knife.

Adal

Erin's looking at her yard. Rake. Is it like a weapon? Yeah, it's like a weapon. Axe. I have an axe to grind. Or bury the hatchet. Bury the hatchet. Both of those are axe-related idioms, not the ones I'm looking for though. Wow. And I'll just cross those off the list for the next few.

Erin

No, you fool. Give us the axe. Give me, give the axe.

Adal

Give us the axe. What's in the axe? An axe to grind is if you have a grudge. And the other one you said was? Bury the hatchet, which is to obviously call peace or truce. Right. But what if it's you're really angry? Before all that happens, your tools separate. You're still angry.

Erin

Axe to grind?

Adal

Axe to... They separated. Oh, divorce. My swords are divorced. Divorce swords. Split hairs. We're splitting hairs. You'll visit your blade on the weekends.

Erin

I'm furious. I ripped my axe apart and then I say.

00:52:51

Adal

You're on a razor's edge.

Erin

You flung the axe. I flew off the handle.

Adal

Yes, you did, JQC. Wow. I thought that was about witches. I thought it was when witches got drunk and drove and flew.

Erin

Like I said, these could be entirely- No, that's my Friday night. I don't know.

JPC

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I did that.

Adal

Sorry Adal, you thought it was about witches? To fly off the handles. Oh, like they're flying around and then they slip. Like a witch is doing donuts. Like a witch is in a cloud doing donuts and then she flies off the handle.

JPC

I don't think it'd be if they slipped. I think it would be if they broke too early. I don't know where the brakes are on the broom because if they slip, they're just going off the side, but if they break, they're flying off the handle.

Adal

Hold on. You don't know where the brakes are on a broom, J.B. Smith? The bristles. Erin, Erin, back me up.

Erin

I don't know if I can.

Adal

That's the most honest thing that's ever been said on this podcast. I don't want to think about the splinter situation if you break through soon on a broom and fly off the handle. That sounds terrible. Yikes. Yeah. That's where we get the expression... Dead witch. Splinter crotch. Dead witch. That's right. That's right. That's right. Thank you. Don't get your splinters in a crotch.

00:54:07

JPC

Definitely wear a helmet if you're a witch, right? I mean, I don't think I've ever seen a witch in popular media wearing a helmet, and I don't understand why.

Adal

That's because they have those inflatables, instant inflatable helmets, you know, the scene where the poofy part comes out of the collar as soon as you hit the accelerometer. Do those work? Do those work, Sandy? Be honest. I've never seen a witch, an injured witch, so they must. Good point. Yeah, and I've got this tiger repellent. You don't see any tigers around me, do you, JPCQ? So it must be working.

JPC

I honestly thought you were pausing because you saw a tiger.

Adal

Well, Gemma did spend some time at Princeton. All right. I think you all know this one. I think this is well known by now. Famous last words. In an episode of Happy Days, Bonzi goes... Jump the shark. That's right. You want to tell me? Finish the story. And I elbow the jukebox and I break my elbow. I say, jump the shark. Don't jump the shark.

Erin

Yeah, there was an episode where a shark jumped over them or something and then everyone was like, this is stupid.

00:55:09

JPC

No, he did motorcycle stunts and he did his motorcycle over like a shark, right?

Adal

That's what I meant. Jabberjaw. Right. It was a crossover. Crossover. Hanna-Barbera crossover.

JPC

And what was it? Is Erin right? It was because the show was bad at that point, or...?

Adal

Yeah, it was like, that's when it turned. That's when it turned sour. That episode was a turning point, yeah. Got it. There was a crossword clue recently where it was like a... In some crossword I was doing, there was like an insult coined by the Fonz on Happy Days, and it was like, sit on it, which I guess at the time was a really raunchy thing to say. Anyway, I don't think that's lasted.

JPC

I do think that sit on it is familiar to me as a Fonz line of dialogue.

Adal

Have you ever trotted that one out?

JPC

No, but I have said, and I think it's from Welcome Back, Cotter, I have said up your nose with a rubber hose before, because I think that one's still very fun to say.

Adal

I'm just realizing the Fonz and Danny Zuko are very similar characters. Marketing.

JPC

Hey, how much does it suck for Henry Winkler, who, by the way, went on to have a great career, a fantastic actor, to have that whole phrase, jump the shark, be associated with just your show and the thing that you did on that show? That's awful.

00:56:18

Adal

I don't think he feels too responsible for it. Someone told him to jump a shark and he did it. I think also the phrase, save the whales, comes from when Star Trek started to be bad. The movie? Number 4? Undiscovered Country? Yeah, I thought the movie was good too. And I started saving whales.

JPC

I have a photograph- Oh yeah, hold on, I also don't think that people say Save the Whales, so now I'm putting together that that may have been a joke, because I've never heard someone say Save the Whales.

Adal

I think Save the Whales was a campaign.

JPC

It was a campaign. Save the Cat?

Adal

I have a great photograph of my grandmother standing with Henry Winkler, like 20, 30 years ago. Yeah, I should find that photo, put it on the wall.

JPC

Do you know the context for why it was taken?

Adal

I... No, why don't you tell me what you think that context was, and we'll just bake that canon.

JPC

Well, Sandy, I gotta say, you look a lot like Henry Winkler.

Adal

She came up to you and was like rubbing schmutz off his face? It was probably some function in Indianapolis and he was the person of honor. And she's like, I need a picture of you. And now I have it. And now it's yours. And now it's mine and I can still, it's my cash if I ever have to go find Henry in a crowd.

00:57:28

JPC

And you can sell that to whoever you want to, okay? So it's at PZLR if you want to make a bid on that photo of Sandy's grandma and Henry Winkler.

Adal

Henry Winkler. If you're Henry Winkler, I'll give it to you for half price.

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And I gotta say, that's incredible.

Adal

I gotta say, I am also selling some merch. I had just some funny drawings of Erin and stuff. And that is at, on Twitter, it's at jqsofly, I believe. So look for that. You want some more?

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Yeah.

Adal

Yes, please. All right. If an unwanted guest came to dinner, you could give them an unappealing cut of meat in the hopes they would leave and not attend in the future. Uh, that leads to the phrase, Sydney Poitier. Guess who's eating the shitty dinner? Give Lisa the tuna. Is that what it is? If that's a thing you say... Yeah, I say that all the time.

Erin

When I don't want someone at my party, I go, give Lisa the tuna.

Adal

Get him out of here. You don't like tuna?

00:58:28

Erin

I do, but it's not everybody's cup of fish. It's got a strong smell. Erin, you have my coffee. How about a roll over here?

Adal

So what's some cuts of meat? Start there. Rump roast, the butt, the burnt ends, the belly, the back, the... My ribs and my back. What kind of animal is it from? The humps? I would say pork. Beef or pork. Old shoulder? There you go.

Erin

Wow.

Adal

Erin. You give them the cold shoulder. Wow.

Erin

Wow.

Adal

I got it. But it's nothing like giving them Lisa's tuna.

Erin

Yeah.

Adal

Or give Lisa the tuna.

Erin

I prefer give Lisa the tuna. Give Lisa the tuna.

Adal

That's my favorite phrase that's ever been on the show.

JPC

It's been a while since I've been a meat guy, but why is the shoulder cold? Does it cook cold?

00:59:33

Adal

No, it's because it's cold that you've given it to the person you don't like.

JPC

Got it.

Adal

Yeah.

JPC

I didn't know if there was something about cooking pig that they're like, we can't ever get the shoulder very hot, so if you're eating pig, you're eating cold shoulder.

Adal

Oh, go ahead. I was going to say, only Lisa eats a colt. Of course. Well, Lisa. Fuck Lisa. Do we also get the phrase living high on the hog from that? Because it's like the higher up the cut of meats, the more sort of wealthy you were? I'm sorry, no. I know nothing about any phrases except for the ones that I brought to the show. I cannot give you the information. Adal, I believe that one is about how witches ride brooms. That's right. Get off your high horse and ride a broom. I've got you in my crotch hairs. How about this one? In the 19th century, American boys would dare each other to knock an object off of themselves in order to initiate a fight. Hat? And where that object is, is of the podcast. You know that phrase, like you've got a chip on your shoulder, you're holding a grudge, you want to pick a fight. That's what it is.

01:01:09

JPC

But in the context of this thing, they would put a chip on their shoulder?

Adal

Like a tostito.

Erin

Yeah, you put a tostito on your shoulder and then you're ready to fight. Like a wood chip. Yeah, GPC, a fight between men. Hello?

JPC

Who can scoop up the most salsa? I do think now I want to start a party game where people put Tostitos on their shoulders.

Erin

And then wrestle in your living room?

Adal

Let's be real. If we're being logical, I think Pringles probably rest easiest on the shoulder.

JPC

On the shoulder? Yeah.

Erin

I think a Tostito scoop would rest pretty easy on my shoulder.

JPC

You got fucked up little shoulders. What do you got over there?

Adal

I think a chocolate chip might rest the best. Because it's got a flat surface and then it's going to, well, yeah, melts under.

JPC

No way. Sandy's just trying to melt chocolate on his naked body. Don't fall for this, guys. I've fallen for this many times before.

Adal

So speaking about, well, chocolate chips and nipples, that's all. Give Sandy the tune. Sandy just staring off into the distance. I didn't know how to put those two things together. I just said it and here we are. It's just sitting there. Great. Now I want chocolate chip nipples. According to what I read, kings of Thailand would give certain animals as gifts to people they didn't like. They were costly and time-consuming to care for, making them more of a burden than a present, which leads us to this phrase that we use today. Beast of burden. Wow, that's good. Don't look the gift horse in the mouth. Don't put a chip in the gift's horse.

01:02:46

JPC

Thanks a lot for the fucking camel, Tutankhamun.

Adal

Tutankhamun! Thanks a lot for the fucking camel. It also lends its name to a game of sorts, a party game.

JPC

Horseshoe!

Adal

Par-cheese-cat. Which has to do with burdensome gifts that you don't necessarily want. Partridge in a pear tree, black sheep, white elephant. You got it. It's right there. White elephant. White elephant. White elephant game. You know, that's the game where you give away gifts that you don't want and you trade and try to burden your friends with the shit that you got trying to get rid of. Anyway, it comes from this story of giving away white elephants, which are very burdensome to take care of. Wow. That's what I've heard.

JPC

All right, Sandy, let's do one more.

Adal

One more, and it is this. A former prime minister named Robert Cecil was famous for appointing his family members to positions making their lives much easier. And that leads us to the phrase that you probably don't use that much, but I bet you've heard.

01:03:51

JPC

Robert rules, because he gave me this awesome job. Robert rules of order. Yeah.

Adal

It ain't nepotism if it's me. It's all in the family. It's a phrase that's pretty British. It's pretty British. It has to do with his name. His name is Robert. Bob's your uncle. That's it.

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Bob's your uncle.

Adal

So somebody would be like, oh, sorry, I need the room. And they're like, Bob's your uncle. I think it's more like, just walk in there and Bob's your uncle. As I understand it to mean, things are going to be easy there on out.

Erin

Oh, okay.

Adal

And Sandy, before we go, could you just say Bob's your uncle in like a fun- Well, Bob is my kid's uncle, so. Oh. Bob's the uncle. Oh, nice.

JPC

Is that good enough?

Adal

Yeah.

JPC

Yeah, because you have a brother whose name is Bob.

Adal

Yeah.

JPC

Who recently you shared a screenshot that you sent him a text that you're a little celebrity now because they were talking to a person and the person was telling them about this puzzle podcast and they got to drop that you were related to them.

01:04:51

Adal

Yeah, my brother's roommate was like, oh, I was listening to this puzzle podcast and I heard this guy on, his name was Sandy, and my brother had to be like, yeah, that's my brother. He didn't sound proud.

JPC

That was my interpretation.

Adal

He probably was much more generous than I'm giving him credit for.

JPC

Also, why would he be proud? That, to me, is more of a suspect.

Adal

Well, it's time to give the plugs to Lisa. Lisa, do you have anything to plug? Are you talking to me? Yeah. Wow. Is that where we get that phrase? When someone calls you Lisa, you're supposed to respond with, are you talking to me? I don't know if you knew that part. Yeah. So if you want more puzzles in your life, you should go to signals.fun. That's my newsletter and community and patron. The service, I've got a newsletter that comes out and also a Discord that you can join for a little bit of scratch. I'm also on Instagram doing prompt man toes. I'm mystery league, M-Y-S-T-E-R-Y-L-E-A-G-U-E on Instagram, also on threads. These prompt man toes are where I put two phrases, make a portmanteau and feed them into mid journey, which is a, Hey Riddle Hell yeah, give the Buddy Holly to Lisa. And I gotta say Mid-Journey. I would have to guess Mid-Journey would be like, took the midnight train going anywhere.

01:06:44

JPC

You think that's the most Mid-Journey? That's gotta be their best song. Just that lyric. Just that lyric.

Adal

There's no specific destination? Come on.

JPC

Uh, and speaking of specific destinations, Sandy, we got a sandbox with your name on it and we are shoving you back into that! Get back in there!

Adal

Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there!

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Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there!

JPC

Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there! Get back in there!

Adal

Listen, there's 10 base numbers. I want to plug one specifically, which is number 9. Now it's not just German for no.

Erin

Everyone had already forgotten about it, Adam. You brought it back to the front of their brains.

Adal

JPC said we redeemed ourselves. I thought that was talking about, it must have been about something else. Don't forget the number 9. It plays a big role the deeper you get into numbers. And it pops up quite a bit.

01:07:45

Erin

Check out Magic Tavern.

Adal

Yeah, check out Magic Tavern. Erin, do you have anything to plug?

Erin

Yeah, check out Hello from the Magic Tavern. Also check out Sitcom D&D, wherever you find podcasts. Lots of good stuff. Lots of fun being had on those shows. Bill Buds. Bill Buds.

Adal

With the true co-host with the mo-host, Johnny O'Brien.

Erin

He got mo-host too?

Adal

Yeah, he gets it every episode.

JPC

Yeah, I'm giving him that candy.

Erin

JPC, could you read a review or plug something or neither?

JPC

Yeah, absolutely. I do want to give a quick plug to our Patreon, patreon.com slash heyriddleriddle. We have a lot of great stuff there. Honestly, we've been having some absolutely fantastic stuff. If you like our more long-form improv-y stuff, please check out that Patreon. There's always something that everyone can enjoy. You can start a seven-day free trial. That's pretty cool. And if you want to get a review featured on the show, you just go leave us a five star review someplace. This one's coming from Reasonably Unhappy. The title is my, in parentheses, should be guilty, pleasure. I thoroughly enjoy this podcast. Now for a couple of years of listening, I built up enough courage to introduce this show to my brother. Big mistake. He not only didn't find it funny, but I'm also 99% sure he thinks I have a mental disorder now. He will probably never look at me the same again. Huge fan. I'd love to sit in Saul Fredlund's and test my wit with you guys. Insert Howard Dean scream. I got you. I got you covered reasonably unhappy. Yeah, really big mistake. This show is just for you and us. It's our little secret.

01:09:13

Adal

Please do not tell loved ones about the show.

Erin

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that.

Adal

I do, just very quickly, I want to redeem myself. Not for what you think. The two of you, I want to see a quick scene. Okay. The two of you are mathletes. You live on an island. You've never not lived on the island. Sure. And the two of you, you're on the island.

JPC

You thinking what I'm thinking? Created by Adal Rifai, starring Erin Keif, and John Patrick Coan.

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Casey Toney did the editing, and Marty Parrish did the music.

01:10:15

JPC

Hey there, what is and who are. If you like that, you're going to love this week's Patreon. We are playing Jep Ritty with our friend Janet Varney. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com slash hey riddle riddle by joining the clue crew for $5 a month or start your seven day free trial or the review crew for $8 a month and get those ad free episodes. See you there.

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