Which Riddle Riddle?

#273: Three Donatellos w/ Ian Karmel

00:00:01

???

This is a HeadGum podcast. The doctor was the mother. He stood on a block of ice. Oh, then we're going to finish. It was the cannon of an airplane. He stabbed him with the nice away. And the horse seemed riding.

Erin

Adal JPC, can you step into my office?

Adal

Okay, we both step at the same time. Sorry, we can't, why don't you go ahead.

JPC

Why don't we do face-to-face? We'll do face-to-face to step in and we'll sidestep it.

Adal

We're stepping into each other. Sorry Erin, give us a second here.

JPC

Can we just do this stuck in your door jamb? Sure.

Adal

Why not? It's almost like the fox, the hen, and the bag of grain. So why don't you put your hat in first, then we'll take a fishing line, grab your hat, I'll throw my shoes in, and one, two, three, go!

00:01:09

JPC

Okay, now we're naked and we're still stuck at the door, James.

Erin

I was going to tell you, we got your blood work back for both of you. Oh, good. You took my blood? Oh, sorry. I thought, I figured it was sort of a... I keep it in my desk.

Adal

That's fine.

Erin

Yeah, it's fine. We got your results back and you should sit down for this if you can, given the current circumstances.

Adal

We are wedged in here. Oh, we just sat in the same seat.

Erin

Blood tested positive for riddles. Not even just like a trace amount, like pretty intense.

Adal

Erin, cut straight to it. How long do we have? And can we make it as short as possible?

Erin

You're going to live a really long life. I'm so sorry.

Adal

If we're going to live a long life full of riddles, it sounds like, can we at least have some guests on?

Erin

Sure.

JPC

Do we have a guest? Luckily we do. It looks like we do have a guest from the podcast, All Fantasy Everything. Please welcome Ian Karmel. Ian, welcome to the show.

00:02:10

Ian

Thank you so much. I brought a big jar of my blood.

???

Oh, you are white as a sheet.

Ian

And honestly, you do it.

???

What?

Adal

I can't tell if he's yawning or turning into a Dracula.

Ian

I'm just so grateful. Similar sounds, similar sounds. Whatever you want to do with it. It's September too early for me to throw up on a podcast. How does everyone feel about that?

JPC

No, Dracula's going to live the rest of the year. Yeah, that's a really good vampire voice. We'll never have you back on again. It's actually too good. We'll call it Sleeplica. Very bad, very bad. Ian, you also have a Headgum podcast. It is a wonderful show. Very enjoyable to listen to. I think on our Patreon we've done similar things just because I absolutely love the idea of fantasy drafting things. Basically, you guys just fantasy draft different pop culture things, correct?

00:03:13

Ian

Literally anything. We could fantasy draft nicknames for a very sleepy Dracula.

Adal

We can fantasy, and we show everything well.

Ian

I think first round, first pick. I love this guy. We can draft actors who play Dracula, like Universal movie monsters, like whatever it is in the world, we can fantasy draft it. And many of them we have.

Adal

I really enjoy your episode on, I think it's just Vegas activities in general. Like you get into Vegas and like what's, what are the things you do? I really, really enjoyed that episode.

Erin

What was the first draft pick for that one?

Ian

Oh my god, I can't remember because we went to Vegas shortly thereafter.

Erin

Got a bunch of brain damage from the part of it.

Ian

Ruined my ability to retain any sort of memory.

JPC

But the question that we have to ask you because you're on our show now, what is your relationship with riddles, puzzles, lateral thinking problems of... You said that like a stepdad. You're on our show now.

00:04:14

Ian

We do things a little different around here. You're gonna smoke the whole riddles on this show. I've always loved them. I was so excited to come on. I don't know that I'm very good at riddles. My intelligence is more of a memorizing facts than a logic. I think I would be very good on Jeopardy, but if I had to help the Apollo 13 mission return to Earth, they would have died sooner. They would have probably died on Earth. Yeah.

Adal

Well, we should say if in real time you had to help them, because if you had to help them now, like a time travel thing, you'd know what to do.

Ian

Oh, absolutely.

Adal

As long as the movie was accurate, I would be able to tell them exactly. How old is Garrison East right now? Let's call him. Twelve? Oh no.

Ian

Still, but like doing like very dramatic Chekhov plays at 12 years old. Steppenwolf, yeah. Steppenwolf. Yeah, so I really enjoy them. I love them. I love sitting there, which I think you'll hear a lot today of going, ah. Yeah. Great noise. What are my favorite noises to make? That specific noise I make a lot.

00:05:23

Adal

The noise we make a lot is pitched down a little bit, which is... Oh yeah, yeah. Cause we're also, I don't think anybody's good at, maybe like Stephen Colbert is good at riddles cause he's like a Tolkien head, but I feel like nobody else on earth is really good at riddles.

JPC

Oh, because, because there are riddles in Tolkien properties, Stephen Colbert, because he likes Tolkien, is good at riddles?

Erin

I follow that logic. I get that. I think Erin, thank you. Wow.

Ian

Huh. He also just seems like he'd be good at riddles. Like he doesn't watch TV. Like he goes home and like pours the smallest amount of scotch you've ever seen and then just like tells riddles back and forth. And is drunk immediately. Immediately drunk. Still wearing a suit.

Erin

Wow. Suit jammers. I am old man puzzles today, which means I have sourced the riddles. And I think we, I'm not trying to be crazy here, but I think we actually have some pretty good riddles today.

Adal

Whoa. We'll never call you crazy.

Erin

I know, but you could because I am.

Adal

I'm not falling for that. I'm not falling for that. Nice try. I've been burned before on Twitter.

00:06:27

Erin

We're going to start with some warm up riddles, which to me, they're sort of more like jokes or puns. So let's just begin. All right. What has 15 diamonds but isn't rich?

Adal

James Bond, which has 15 diamonds but isn't rich. A deck of cards?

Erin

Yeah.

Adal

Hold on. Pump the brakes. Did we bring in a ringer? What's going on here? I do.

Erin

That's because anyone has ever gotten an answer on the show.

JPC

This guy's definitely been to Vegas.

Ian

I've seen the Desolation of Smog, so I'm familiar. I'm familiar with Jerry R. Tolkien.

Erin

I stick so strongly, yet I am not sticky in the slightest. What am I?

JPC

A snide comment from a mother-in-law.

Erin

Yeah, that'll stay with you forever. No, not that.

JPC

I've never really thought about my body like that before. Is it a magnet? Oh, I will forever. Is it a magnet?

Erin

It's a magnet. Yeah, you guys are flying through these.

00:07:29

Adal

Well, some of us are.

Erin

Not you.

Adal

Yeah, raise your hand if you've gotten one. Okay, interesting. JPC crossed arms.

Ian

JPC, if your mother-in-law hadn't decimated your confidence, I think you'd have one too.

Adal

Don't worry about it. It's not on you, man. It's called a Miami compliment, JPC. I should accept that. I should accept that.

Erin

I am a driver, but I never drive a car. What am I?

JPC

A golf club?

Erin

That's a great answer. That's not the one I'm looking for. That technically works though. Adam? No, that also works.

Adal

I am a driver.

Erin

But he might drive cars. How do we know that Adam?

Adal

Oh, he's in Ferrari. That's right. Oh, sorry. Can you say the full?

Erin

I am a driver, but I never drive a car. What am I?

JPC

Is this like a, is this like, do we already say golf? Do we say like a golf driver?

Ian

Is it one of those guys who has only ever owned big white pickup trucks? You know what I'm talking about? He never puts anything in him but it's very important to him to have like a big white pickup truck.

Adal

Very specific images popped in my head.

00:08:29

Ian

Yeah, you know the guy.

JPC

I know the guy, in my mind, that guy is like a 16 year old girl that I see at the grocery store and I'm like, why are you driving this truck? That's the guy. Yeah, that's the guy.

Ian

Morgan Wallen blasting out of the windows and you're like, I knew you.

Adal

I don't know if that's Morgan Wallen, but I hear that song everywhere. It's like a union job on Sopranos or something.

JPC

So many other things are drivers. You could be a bus driver and you're only driving a bus. You could be like a computer driver. Yeah, it's not a person.

Erin

That's my hint.

Adal

Oh, it's not a person. Oh, is it like a subway? No. I'm a driver, but I never drive.

JPC

Now, this is a stretch, but is it a mother-in-law who is a drivering me crazy?

Erin

What did she say to you?

JPC

First of all, I realized after making the joke the second time, I do have a mother-in-law who is a lovely person who also sometimes listens to the show. So this is not about her. This is about a fictional... I'm thinking like everybody loves Raymond mother-in-law.

00:09:33

Ian

When I was on, I was the on-air sidekick for the Late Late Show. It was a lot of fun, a lot of learning. And I, uh, I would do jokes about like my ex-wife, like that were clearly in that where it's like, Oh, you know, tell my ex-wife, like clearly fake. You know what I mean?

???

Yeah.

Ian

And my, when this was when I was dating my now wife, her mom would like watching the show. Cause it's like, Oh, this, this boy is dating my daughter. I want to see what's up with them. And she like frantically called. My now wife. Does he have an ex? Was he married before this? It's fine if he was, but you didn't tell me that. She took this my ex-wife joke like it was gospel, and she still gives me crap about it. I still think she thinks I have an ex-wife out there somewhere.

Adal

Let's see. Erin and Ian, you are dating each other. JPC, you are Ian's in-law. And you've heard some things about Erin, maybe that she's been complaining about you. She's an author and she just released a new book, we'll say, that has a very awful portrayal of an in-law.

00:10:46

JPC

Wait, wait, I'm sorry.

Adal

Oh, you're dating, but you're not. Okay. I said in-law and you're dating. Okay. I see what happened here.

JPC

No, no.

Adal

You're married. You're married. You're married. Who am I related to in this? We'll say that you're Ian's in-law. I'm sorry, you're Ian's parent. You're in-law.

JPC

You kept phrasing it in terms of an in-law and I'm like, why are you making me do the math here?

Adal

Because I'm doing the... You're Ian's parent.

JPC

I'm Ian's parent, and Erin, you're like my daughter-in-law.

Adal

My Adderall hasn't kicked in yet, so my brain is Nickelodeon gack right now.

Ian

What about Flum? Flum, there's no place like Flum. You guys, anybody want to do an appetizer? If we did the calamari, would anyone else have some?

JPC

Well, I'm not cooking it. I'm not cooking it. So it's not going to taste like absolute dog shit. And I'm putting that in quotes.

Erin

Because I'm not cooking it. Maureen, I thought we talked about this. In the book, she's a witch. She's like a scary monster. She's nothing like you.

00:11:46

Ian

There's a cauldron. She puts like frog legs and eyes into it. It's nothing like how you cook. Your frog legs and eyes are delicious.

JPC

Okay, great. Well then when we get home after dinner, I'll make some frog legs, and I'll watch you eat all of them, Kathy. Cuz I'm not- cuz my frog legs taste nothing like the frog legs in the book.

Ian

Mom, you know Maureen doesn't eat amphibians. We've talked about this. We met on an anti-anph- Okay, great. Okay.

JPC

You know what? I would love to do calamari. That's not an amphibian, is it?

Ian

No, it's domain is mostly the same.

JPC

But I would love, I'd love to do Calamari and I apologize. I apologize because I'm, again, I just read the book and it's a little fresh for me.

Erin

Yeah. And I, and I am sorry. I, it was a real oversight that she's named after you. And it's a real oversight that she looked a lot like you. I had just seen you that day. You were top of mind. It has nothing to do.

JPC

I didn't even put together. So that's what you think I look like.

Erin

No, I didn't mean to say that.

JPC

Cuz you said she had a bug eyes, bug mouth, and bug face. Cuz in my mind I'm like, that looks nothing like me, but that's- Okay, can I go ahead and take your bug eyes?

00:12:55

Adal

Your order? Sorry, I'm your bug lips, uh, waiter. Huh. We'll have the calamari to start. We're gonna start with a calamari. Oh, I love- I don't think you finished the sentence, but I love we met on an anti amphibian subreddit or whatever. I love fighting true love when you hate the randomest thing.

Ian

I said I read it with two people, so it's like, we've got to stop eating amphibians.

Adal

Okay, here's another warm up. It's definitely Miss Piggy and someone else, yeah.

Erin

Oh, we didn't answer the last one. You almost got away with it too.

Adal

Damn it. So this is not a human. Erin, is this some sort of technology or is this like a natural force?

Erin

Not a natural force, it's man-made.

Adal

Man-made.

Erin

Think of things that have the word driver in it.

Adal

And it's a type of driver. Driver.

Erin

It's not like a driver.

Adal

Okay. Words that have the word driver.

00:13:55

Erin

A word that has the word driver in it.

Adal

It's one word?

Erin

Well.

Adal

Okay. Is this the thing that beat Paul Bunyan and Babe?

Erin

It's not a pile driver.

Adal

Oh, pile driver's good. Everyone has this in their house. Oh, a washer and driver.

Erin

Okay. Washer and driver. This guy sucks.

Adal

If I just answer crazy, it'll be right.

JPC

A washer and driver? I hate that. I love it so much.

Ian

Uh, we all have this in our house.

JPC

What do I have in my house that is a driver?

Ian

I'm gonna make the noise for the first time.

Erin

Okay, I would say that you don't you don't have one of these until maybe you're like 23 24 25 and your dad probably gives you this when you move to a new city Oh talking to about sex

Adal

Uh, a talking to. It's not even an explanation, it's just a talking to. No, it's a talking to because I'm moving to a new city.

00:14:58

JPC

I had all the regular sex in the first city.

Erin

This might be like a junk drawer or a part of a bigger kit.

Adal

Erin, is driver the first half or second?

Erin

Oh, is this a screwdriver? It's a screwdriver. Oh my gosh.

Adal

Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. It was so simple yet so hard.

JPC

Yeah. So that's vodka and orange juice. I did get that talk from my dad.

Erin

Yeah.

Adal

Well, slur. By slur, I mean slurred words, of course. Let's calm down. It was mottled behavior, but I did learn it from him.

Erin

Who is the king of the school supplies?

Adal

Um, God. Ooh, Mr. Mead?

Erin

No.

Adal

Okay. Had that.

JPC

Lisa Frank?

Adal

It's gotta be Lisa Frank. Okay.

Erin

Well, in a way, she is.

Adal

Who's the king of the school supplies? The ruler!

Erin

The ruler! Ian! I would like to see a scene. JBC, you are the ruler. Ian, you're like a pencil and Adal, you're like a folder. And JBC, you're really bossing them around and they've had enough.

JPC

Mm-hmm. Hmm, you there. Uh, carve my initials into him.

00:16:04

Ian

My lord, I already possessed several different markings identifying exactly which caliber of pencil I am and which... Ticonderogas are rather long words.

JPC

No, no, you nitwit. I'm talking to you. You carve my initials into the folder. Do it with your little graphite tip or whatever it is you do.

???

Sure, if I may. My thickness is not quite what it used to be. I'm quite thin and frail.

Ian

With your permission sir, I would rather, perhaps I could write your initials onto the folder and that would suffice.

JPC

Yeah, so maybe a song for my lord. I want you to push until his little folder skin breaks.

???

I want to see what the insides of this folder are made of. But sir, if I may, if I may, inside, right through the membrane of my folder, is your homework, sir. You would pierce your homework, we can have that.

Ian

And my lord, think of all the young men playing sporting events on the outside of our friend here that would be obscured by her initials.

00:17:10

JPC

Right now, right now you're getting my flat wood side. If you want to see my sharp metal side, I can turn around and we can see what the ruler really has in store. No, no, no, no, no, no, go ahead.

Ian

Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances, Frances

Erin

Happy back to school season everybody. That should be an ad for Staples, I think. I would go to Staples immediately if I saw that ad on TV.

Ian

Can I have the corny products please? Yeah, it's truly a little bit too sexual for TV, I think. The part of Staples that's behind a beaded curtain.

Erin

Yeah, it's in the back.

JPC

All stores should have that like 21 plus section, no matter what the store is, and they should offer the adult version of whatever you have at a grocery store. Do you ever go to a nasty Target?

00:18:21

Erin

They should have that at restaurants too. I want to go to horny chilies.

Adal

Well, Erin, that's just the kitchen.

Erin

Yeah, you're right. Okay, a few more warm-up riddles, I think. What is the leading cause of dry skin?

Adal

Heart disease. Oh. Excellency. A lean cause of dry skin.

Erin

Remember this is a Riddle and Odd Effect.

Adal

It's a screw dryer. It's like a joke.

Erin

Yeah, a screw dryer. Yeah, a washer and screw dryer.

Adal

Is this like a site for psoriasis or something?

Erin

No, Ian, I do think that you're kind of on the right track with the way that you're thinking. What did Ian say? A screw dryer. He was doing a callback to your joke earlier, calling it a washer.

JPC

And this is the number one cause of dry skin? Yes. Skinny dipping. Something.

Adal

Everyone comes for dry skin. Something flake.

JPC

This has got to be a skin pun or a dry pun, right?

Erin

It's not a pun. It's something that dries you. What goes up and down and doesn't move and actually I want to see a scene. Ian you are a towel and you're just super dry and Adal you are the man using the towel and you sort of wish it had a little bit more personality.

00:19:43

Ian

I was telling you that I am mostly pima cotton. This again, Pima Cotton.

Adal

I don't even know. I don't care.

Ian

Have you had a chance to make it out towards Arizona at any point? Pima or Pima?

Adal

Literally, this is the first time in my life I've said Pima Cotton out loud. I've said it twice now.

Ian

Yes, Gracie and I are going to Sedona in the fall. You know this. The airport in Phoenix is called the Sky Harbor. I always thought that was the best thing.

Adal

Can I ask you? Hey Charles, can I ask you something? When we leave the house, are you on the computer? What are you doing? How do you know all this?

Ian

I mostly just sort of lay crumpled up in a corner. Okay. Kind of next to your hamper. Great.

Adal

Listen, I didn't want to do this today.

Ian

Slowly collecting. Let me finish the black mold.

Adal

Okay. All right. Now that I'm dry, I think it's time to just rip the band-aid off, okay? I'm getting new towels, they're Egyptian cotton, okay? I don't want, every day when I shower, I don't want to be talking to Stephen Wright in towel form, okay? I want like a Ricky Gervais. I want someone who can hold up there into the conversation and not just talk at me.

00:20:57

Ian

The interesting thing about Egypt is the upper Nile is actually further south and the lower Nile is the one that connects to the Mediterranean. Holy shit. Are you kidding me? Oh, sorry. I'm still a little bit wet from your body. I'll dry out in a moment.

Adal

Oh, yeah. Sorry. That was just slightly exciting. Yeah. If you never, I didn't know that. Okay. But yes, we are going to, and I'll leave it up to you. We can either toss you or take you to Salvation Army. I have to assume Salvation Army take Stiles.

Ian

If you wouldn't mind sort of just crumpling me up and putting me where that feral cat sleeps outside, I think I could forge an excellent relationship with them.

Adal

Oh sure. Yeah. Okay. Captain Screams. Yes. I will put you out. And I just want to say, I just want to say I'm sorry. I feel like I've been pretty hard on you. I feel like you've done, you've done your job. It's just, um, I don't know if this is a better or worse, but it's just your personality. It's just your fairy.

JPC

We catch the next day. There's a, there's a knock at your door, Adal. Uh, hello?

???

Hey man, down here. You gotta stop leaving this crap out in my alley, man. This guy sucks.

00:21:59

Ian

Hey Captain Screens. You know, the idea that cats have nine lives.

Erin

No! I can't deal with it! I can't deal with it! That was amazing.

Adal

Ian, hold on. I gotta ask. Were those hacktoids real?

Ian

Uh, everything, I didn't have one for the cat, but everything else was real. Okay.

JPC

Holy shit. Ian did say he'd be great on Jeopardy and pulling out that Pima Cotton thing, I'm like, okay. Yeah. The guy's not lying.

Ian

I assume it's Pima Arizona. Is Pima Arizona? It might be Oklahoma. Now hold on. Now hold on. Right?

Erin

Ian, if you went on Jeopardy, what category would you be most relieved to see on the board?

Ian

It is in Arizona. If they did any sports, I'm a big sports fan, and I know that the bar is pretty low on Jeopardy! for sports trivia. This is also how I win trivial pursuit every time is just by hitting as many oranges as I can. So any sport, any like basketball related category, I'd be like, I'm about to sweep this thing. Ooh. Who are your teams? I'm a Portland Trailblazer fan. I'm from Portland, Oregon originally. Rough times. Rough times.

00:23:11

Adal

Clyde Rexler could have been Michael Jordan if only Michael Jordan hadn't existed.

Ian

In a world without Michael Jordan, Clyde Rexler would have been a beautiful, bald, He's NBA superstar. He looks 54 at 22. He's fantastic. And then we drafted Greg Oden, who looks 54 at 19. So we have a type. Mature. Yeah.

JPC

Wow. What a nice way to say that. If only my mother-in-law would be so kind.

Ian

He's me.

Erin

I'd kill for a mature. What goes up and down, but doesn't move an inch?

Adal

Gas prices, Biden. Thank you. Get him.

JPC

We're all thinking.

Erin

Get him. Kill him.

Adal

I've seen Kamala Harris in two years.

Erin

What goes up and down but doesn't move an inch?

Adal

Seesaw. No, Seesaw moves. What goes up and down? Stock market. Doesn't move an inch. No. Up and down.

JPC

Does it move way more than an inch? Because that's tons of things.

Adal

Yeah, like an airplane. Elevator.

Erin

I like the way you're thinking though, but that's not right. Oh, okay.

00:24:12

Adal

Blood pressure. It goes up and down. Temperature? No.

JPC

Okay. No, that's good. I do like temperature. Yeah. Um, up and down, but doesn't move an inch. Is this something to do with like, uh, I was going to say like, um, no, but that definitely moving. I was going to say like the sun, like the sun in the sky, like it disappears every day, but we are moving. You think the sun disappears?

Erin

The language in this one I will say is a little misleading.

Adal

JVC doesn't have object permanence.

JPC

We'll be cutting all of this out, I know exactly about the plan.

Erin

He screams and giggles when he sees the sun again.

Ian

A new song is created every single day.

Erin

Like a game of peek-a-boo. He's like, oh, we gotta get back.

Adal

Sorry, Erin, what was the hint you just gave?

Erin

I think that the language in this is a little misleading. When we talk about this thing, we don't say that it goes up and down. We say that maybe we go up and down it.

00:25:15

Adal

Oh, a slide? Stairs? Stairs! Oh, stairs. The trickier slide.

JPC

Oh, okay. You can go up and down stairs, but the stairs never move. I see. I see, I see, I see.

Erin

A couple more of these warm-up riddles before we take a little break.

Adal

These are actually pretty good. Right? Yeah, these are bad.

Erin

If I'm walking, then I must be running. However, if I'm running, I may be walking. What am I?

Adal

A guy in New York City.

Ian

If I'm walking, I must be running.

Erin

Yeah, if I'm walking then I must be running. However, if I'm running, I may be walking. What am I? Again, this is sort of intentionally misleading language here.

Adal

This sounds like, and I know this isn't the answer, but have you ever been to like a mall at like, right when it opens, like 9am? And there's women in the mall who are walking so slowly, but their arms are doing this? Like their arms are going max up.

Erin

I love those women. I will protect those women at any cost.

Adal

It's like in their head they think they're Robert Patrick from Terminator 2, but their feet are going just shuffling forward.

00:26:18

Ian

They've still got Reeboks from when Reagan was president, but they're clean. They're still clean. They've only worn them in the mall.

Adal

Their tracksuit looks like those paper cups that used to come with all water dispensers. The teal and the purple splatter. Okay, if I'm walking, I'm running.

Erin

I must be running. Whoever I'm running, I may be walking.

Adal

What am I? I'm of a certain age, Ian. But did anybody in school ever have... Everyone in my school, there was like a year where everyone would say, if I'm lying, I'm flying, and my feet are clearly still on the ground. Did anybody have that, or is that...?

JPC

You went to school with all Matthew McConaughey's, right?

Erin

That's a nightmare.

JPC

Or a TV show. I've got a premise for a TV show. Alright, do you have some quick roll call? Matthew? Alright, alright, alright. Matthew? Alright, alright, alright. Matthew? Alright, alright, alright.

Adal

That was nine. Nine different Macias.

JPC

Uh, no, Adal, I don't think I've ever heard of that in my life. Okay, let's just move on. Let's just move on.

Ian

It's a very stylish thing for like a lot of people to say. That seems like a thing that one person said and everyone was like, that's the guy who says that. It might have just spread through my school like wildfire.

00:27:24

Erin

Adal was born in 1935, so he just has a different point of reference than the rest of us.

JPC

And I invented the assembly line and I stick to that. That has a, I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum vibe too. I like a phrase with like an answer to a yes or no question with a part one, a part two, and the part three is I'm all out of part two.

Ian

You could never have a catchphrase like that these days because the kids, they'd be on TikTok halfway through.

JPC

Yeah, you can't do more than an eight second catchphrase, right?

Erin

Your sneeze away from yelling, get off my lawn.

Adal

Can you repeat it one more time?

Erin

If I'm walking, then I must be running. However, if I'm running, I may be walking. What am I? And again, this is slightly misleading language.

Ian

Something running like it's working.

Adal

Like the running means working. Yeah, yeah. Walking. Is this like, oh, is this like those robot dogs at Boston mechanics or whatever?

Erin

No, it's sort of, I will say it's an electrical thing, so it's something you plug in.

00:28:25

Adal

If I'm running, I'm walking.

Erin

Is it like a, it's like a walking piano or it's like a doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom,

JPC

Is this one of those signs that helps you cross the street with like the electronic walking? That would be a great answer. You were doing the, you know, the walking thing for a deaf person, but I thought it was a six flags guy.

Adal

Um, so if I'm walking, I'm running. And if I'm running, I'm walking. Is that what you said?

Erin

Yes, but what it, so this thing, it's like running because it's on and it's working, but also it's like running.

JPC

Oh boy, can we get a little hint please? The walking part, Erin, is the part that I'm having the most trouble with. Do you have a hint for the walking part?

Erin

Yeah, it's both. So it's like it's the walking and the running is the intended use of this thing.

00:29:31

Adal

It's like a motorized walking stick that's like out of control.

Erin

People mover? Yeah, but what's another way of, like, what's a motorized walking thing? You gotta get the motorized walking stick that's out of control.

Adal

Motorized walking thing, a segway.

Erin

People mover is very close.

Adal

Escalator, um, uh, what are those things? Is that what you call the things in the airport? Like a flat, like an escalator that was, had an anvil dropped on it?

Erin

It's that, but for your home.

Adal

Uh, treadmill.

Erin

Treadmill! Treadmill!

Adal

I just bought a I saw it on TikTok guilty I just bought a walking pad for my living room and it's it's like a it's like half a treadmill and I have fallen off of it so many times oh I've seen those yeah yeah yeah yeah if you have long legs it is not for you

JPC

Wait, wait, wait. I have no idea what this is. Is it? What do you mean half a treadmill? What is this? It's been in my house since I've bought it.

Erin

It doesn't have the top half of the treadmill.

JPC

Oh, yes.

Adal

Yeah. But it's shorter length and there's no stand for it. It's just a walking pad, yeah.

JPC

I've been to your house and seen that. Mariah also has one, but she has, which my wife, she has it and she calls it an under desk treadmill so that she can put it under her desk, her standing desk so she works because then you can like balance off it. I've never seen a person just have one in the middle of their living room before. When I went into your house, I assumed that that hadn't been moved to the place where it would be.

00:30:46

Adal

This feels like my mother-in-law all over. Well, let's go to a break and JPC and I can sort of chop this up and we'll be right back with more Hey Riddle Riddle.

Erin

I know what you're thinking. Do I have a new hat, Adal and JPC? New haircut? Why am I walking around with so much confidence?

Adal

I bet you're wondering. I wanted pretzels from the food court.

JPC

And I was just gonna let you know that it looks like you leaned on paint.

Erin

Anyways, I just had a bunch of subscriptions canceled for me by Rocket Money that I wasn't using. And so now I'm flushed with cash and now I'm competent. Pretzel money? Well, maybe we'll talk about that. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that binds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps you lower your bills all in one place. I've been using it for years, even before they were a sponsor.

00:31:47

JPC

It looks like you may have leaned

Erin

People think they're spending $80 on their subscriptions when in reality, the number is closer to $200. And when you signed up for so many free trials, like streaming services, you watch one show and then you completely forget about it. You lose track and then all of a sudden you're like, why am I bleeding money? Rocket money? They take care of that for you. They go, sit back, relax. We got this. And they make everything color coded and easy and super intuitive.

Adal

You're also color-coded. A little birdie told me that Rocket Money also lets you monitor all your expenses in one place, recommends custom budgets based on your past spending, and they'll even send you notifications when you've reached your spending limits, which sounds like something my friend would like, but I forget which friend I'm so hungry for pretzels.

JPC

Speaking of pretzels, you don't get all twisted up by Salty and the bread of your finances. With over 3 million users and counting, Rocket Money customers have saved an average of $720 a year.

00:32:57

Erin

Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and manage your money the easy way by going to rocketmoney.com slash riddle. That's rocketmoney.com slash riddle. Rocketmoney.com slash R-I-D-D-L-E.

???

Hey, what's going on? Somebody leaned over my rocket money paint thing. Run. Everybody run. Run. Oh no.

Erin

Maroon.

Adal

Is that Da Vinci?

Erin

Yeah. Yes.

JPC

And bye. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.

Adal

Heck, with my machete, clear the overgrown grass. I've done it. I've found it. This ancient city of What a weird thing to say to Hey Adal. Oh you know us right? You're citizens of better help this town.

00:34:00

Erin

Yeah, better help is therapy that's entirely online. It's designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. I've been using it for a long time. It works for the way that my brain works, and we're just here talking about it, celebrating it.

Adal

Hmm, yes, I am here too celebrating it. You all seem very happy. This seems like a happy bunch of folks. Hey man, why don't you lose the sword? Oh, it's a machete, not a sword. Yeah, you're right.

JPC

It's all good. Why don't I take that from you, huh? Yeah, we'll put this somewhere safe.

Adal

Okay, thank you. Thank you for that. I appreciate your better help.

JPC

Well, I'm not doing better help, but better help as therapy is actually pretty toned to a person like me because I want to learn positive coping skills, I want to learn how to set and enforce boundaries, and I want to check in with someone on my own schedule. I love online therapy for that specific reason.

Erin

Adal, if you wanted to try it, all you would have to do is just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist and you could switch therapists any time for no additional charge.

00:35:01

Adal

Wow, you said fill out a stone tablet?

JPC

So there are some things that better help is not going to be qualified to help with Adal. This may be one of them. Maybe we get you to some other type of specialist.

Adal

And this is a perfect example of something that not you Adal, but I would be sharing with my therapist.

JPC

Okay, okay, everyone gather out, gather out. As I finish dusting off the ancient structure. Boring. It says this podcast is sponsored by Squarespace.

00:36:04

Adal

Oh, well, that's actually interesting. Squarespace, I've heard of this. Yes, it's the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out or managing a growing brand, right? Squarespace is what I hear makes it easy to create a beautiful website, engage with your audience, and sell anything from products to content to time, all in one place, all in your terms.

JPC

Yes, that's what Squarespace is, but the question, what is it doing buried here? Yes, yes doctor, yes doctor.

Erin

Well, I think that they're pretty cool because they can host video content, organize your video library, and showcase your content on beautiful video pages and sell access to your videos on the member areas. It's super intuitive to use. That's probably why it's buried down here.

Adal

Yeah, and Dr. Dustoff, world-famous archaeologist, they even sell custom merch. So we could get some Dr. Dustoff merch going. You easily sell it, you create passive income, it engages your audience, scales your brand. Does that sound good?

00:37:05

JPC

Yes, yes, yes, we all know about Squarespace and its amazing features, like the Asset Library, where you can organize and access all your content from one place, where you can manage all your files from one central hub and use them across the Squarespace Platform. We know about the value of Squarespace, but the question is, what is it doing buried here?

Adal

Okay, Dr. Dustoff, we don't know. You're the archaeologist.

JPC

I'm sorry, what? You're- I drove. Oh. They call me Dr. Dustoff because when I get into a car accident, I make it kind of go away. I'm a smooth talker, I'm an easy walker, and I'm not bad looking either.

???

Dr. Dustoff tips his fedora to the two of you.

Adal

He just gave his fedora $20. That's too much of a tip. And there's more when that came from a hat. Head to squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you're ready to launch, go to squarespace.com slash riddle to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain. Dr. Dustoff, um... You're my new favorite character.

00:38:11

Erin

Please sign everything.

Adal

Yeah, please, please show up in an episode, will you please?

JPC

Okay, if you insist. Now hold on, I'm taking a call. Hello? They're burning it down. Good. Oh, do we have insurance? Oh, I gotta take this. Okay. Yes.

Erin

This is just JP Riddle.

JPC

Go left.

Adal

Yeah, this is JP Riddle's in a fedora.

Erin

Forget it. I take everything back.

JPC

I used to have a treadmill which I don't have anymore in my old apartment. I bought it when I first moved to the city, so I had like a treadmill for like 10 years in Chicago. I moved it for four apartments. It was an awful ordeal to move that thing. But I used to walk on the treadmill while I played video games with people, and I would play video games with friends like on like headset, and several times as I was doing that, I had fallen off the treadmill because I was paying too much attention to the game, and all of my friends had to hear me go, You know those are good friends because that audio never made its way to YouTube. This would be a time in my life where I was playing a lot of Overwatch, which is a game that involves like, I mean, moving and shooting and aiming and stuff. It's not a good treadmill game. I got to tell people it's not a good treadmill game.

00:39:41

Adal

You want to play like Civilization. Yes. Harvest Moon. I do agree with Ian where it feels like if there was any justice in the world, that audio of you falling down and screaming would be like the new Wilhelm scream. It's like any new Star Wars movie. Like someone gets hit with a lightsaber and falls off a cliff and we hear,

???

You're a JPC. Go help me. I'm hurt.

Adal

Erin, wherever you found the last like eight riddles, cling to that source. Never lose that, wherever that's from. These are, these are frustrating, but delightful. Yeah.

Erin

Yeah. I almost lied and said I wrote them for the attention. That's not a good impulse. I thought it though. I told the truth. I didn't write these. I found them on the internet. But these next riddles that I'm going to bring to your door, oh Ian wrote them. He can take credit, are listener submitted and these are from Mark. So Mark loves improv and puzzles and it's really fun to listen to a podcast where people love improv and barely tolerate puzzles. So they are definitely a listener. Mark wrote these mystery lists for the, that's what he's calling them. So these, for Adal and GBC, these are probably like, they're kind of only connect adjacent. It's a certain style of puzzle, but I'm going to give you guys an example puzzle and then we'll get into the real ones. And I think you'll be able to pick up on this really quick.

00:41:05

Adal

Erin, do we need, as Dr. Dre once wrapped, do we need a pen and a pen?

Erin

No.

Adal

Okay.

Erin

I think you'll be good. Unless, I don't know, up to you, dealer's choice.

Ian

Are we trying to get this damn label off? I would choke you with a Charleston tune.

Erin

So all of the answers in this set of puzzles form a recognizable set of items or people, such as days in the week or colors of the rainbow or names of the friends from friends. In order to find out what the set is, you'll be given a list of clues. Each clue relates to one item in the set, for example. So like, uh, you'll have to, it's like two puzzles in one. You have to figure out what each one is trying to get you to say, and then you have to figure out what the overarching category is.

Adal

Okay. Got it.

Erin

Okay. So the first clue from the first puzzle is cable guy.

Adal

Okay. Jim Carrey movies.

Erin

Uh-huh. But also it's not going to be the literal thing. Remember the clue?

00:42:08

Adal

Yes. Okay. Things that are late.

Erin

Uh, Springfield's bartender.

Adal

Oh, Mo. That'd be Mo Cislak. Yeah.

Erin

Country Fair Fries. And that's all the hints.

Adal

Tenderloin. Oh, what are those? The funnel cake? Country Fair Fries. Pickles? Everything.

Erin

Shape of French fry.

Adal

Ooh, Michael Shannon, Lily Taylor. That was a great movie. Love that movie. That woman falls in love with a fish.

JPC

So there are only three clues.

Erin

I can put them in the chat as well.

JPC

And the first one we have, we think Cable Guy is Jim Carrey. We have Jim Moe. Are these just three Stooges?

Ian

Yep, but... So low pearly fries, Moe says lack, and...

Erin

Larry the Cable Guy. Larry the Cable Guy.

Adal

Oh, I see, I see.

Erin

Okay, okay, okay. All right, so they're all gonna be like that. These puzzles are written with the intention that you'll be able to guess what the set is without figuring out every single clue. So you can do some deductive reasoning.

00:43:09

JPC

Okay, I gotta be saying this because I think my dad does listen to the show. What about Shep? Are we not talking about Shep? Is Shep not even in the conversation? Who's Shep?

Adal

Shep was brought in late, late in the game. He's sort of a, who's the Barks brother, Zepo. Sort of late to the game, but still a part of it. Probably gets royalties. Wow.

JPC

When my dad dies, he is going to be spinning in his grave.

Adal

Is that rotisserie, dad? I should just very quickly, Gemma will be pissed if I don't mention it. Gemma's related to two of the Stooges.

Erin

That's so funny.

Adal

Wow.

Erin

Two of them.

JPC

Yeah. By incest or... What? Well... They were in love. They were in love.

Ian

Did the Stooges intermarry? It's like the royal families of Europe.

JPC

That's why they all have that chin. That Hapsburg chin, they all have that chin. They call it a Stooges palette. They have a slap face.

Erin

So some of these are going to be the order is important. Like that last one is not as important, but this first puzzle is five items and the order matters.

00:44:17

Adal

Okay. Okay. These are awesome.

Erin

The first clue is quake. The second is ball. The third is storm. Fourth is fall. Fifth is break.

Adal

Got it. This is the captain planet. This is earthquake. Fireball. What was the next one? Heartbreak. Heartbreak.

Erin

Storm and fall.

Adal

Yeah. So these are Captain Planet... Wind. Planeteers. Wind fall. What's the storm? Rain. Sorry, there was a crossover. I don't remember. This is like mid-90s. Storm from the X-Men actually joined the Planeteers. Yeah. And she was wrecking house. That little toxic pig guy, dead.

Erin

Adal, I cannot believe how quickly you got that. Yes, earth, fire, wind, water, heart. Each of these clues is the second half of a common compound word that begins with the element name. That's crazy.

Adal

And it's also very sad, we should say, it's very sad that heart and the other one passed away and now it's just earth, wind, and fire.

00:45:19

Ian

I think they're still doing their best.

Adal

They're doing great.

Ian

When I saw Quake, I assumed it was a clue about a game that JPC fell off a treadmill playing.

JPC

Oh, I got this. I made the Doomguy scream and I fill out my treadmill.

Adal

And I should say when Earth, Wind, and Fire combine, their powers summon parents to the dance floor at a wedding.

Erin

Yeah, baby. Okay, so puzzle two. These are eight items and then the order. Jesus. It kind of matters. Near, far, wherever you are.

Adal

Okay.

Erin

Up above the world so high, under a horse, at a saint's annual parade, in the sky, parentheses, rarely, at the end of the rainbow, beneath the emerald city, and floating in the summer sky.

Adal

Holy shit.

JPC

Oh, near far where you are is like Celine Dion, Titanic.

Erin

What's the name of that song?

Adal

It's not Titanic by some of the odds. My heart will go on. My heart will go on. So this is the planet Tiers plus, so heart, earth is under the rainbow.

00:46:27

Erin

And then what's the next, the next one is?

JPC

Up above the world so high.

Erin

Twinkle twinkle little star. Yep, so a star.

Adal

Art star. Oh these are Lucky Charms. Heart star horseshoe under a horse horseshoe. At a St. 's annual parade is a clover, probably, St. Patrick's. At the end of a rainbow would be a pot of gold. Beneath the emerald city would be slippers, ruby slippers, is that for lucky terms? Rainbows over the rainbow. And then floating in the summer sky would be a moon.

Erin

No, red balloons.

Adal

A red balloon. Oh, aren't there moons in lucky stars? Yeah, that's blue moon, that's five.

Erin

In the night sky.

JPC

Rarely is the moon. Oh, I see. I missed that one. Okay. I was trying to do like heart stars and rainbows in me red balloons, but I just went right to the end.

Erin

Heart stars and rainbows in me red balloons.

Adal

Erin, this isn't so much a scene, but just a request. Sure. Do you mind singing the Lucky Charms song in the stylings of Celine Dion? Just a snippet.

Erin

Do I know? Okay, yeah. On a golden rainbow.

00:47:39

Adal

Okay, our budget's blown. Our budget's blown.

Erin

Well, we hold him $80,000. That was like five seconds.

JPC

We should for the first time, we should take video from this podcast and just do that and then have a caption contest for people writing what they hear. It's like a Rorschach test, but audio.

Adal

I do want to see a real scene. JBC, Ian, and Erin, the three of you are sort of ad executives for, I want to say post? I have no idea. Well, Lucky Charms, parent company, And the three of you have been tasked with coming up with for the new generation for 2023, we need to refresh these outdated marshmallows. So you're coming up with what the new marshmallow should be.

Ian

Nobody's playing with horseshoes anymore. All right. We got to get them out of there. We got to replace it with something the kids can relate to.

Erin

Yeah, but boss, we can't be all cell phone marshmallows in there. It's a little depressing.

Ian

OK, but we definitely so we got cell phone on the board. All right. Now we need to beat cell phone.

JPC

Cell phone is definitely first. Now, I also gotta say, I think we gotta take Rainbow out. I mean, Rainbow's just too hot bad. We're getting all conservatives unloading AK-47s into Lucky Charms boxes because we have Rainbows in there. It's just too much.

00:48:52

Ian

Or, or, taking your idea, what if we exclusively pivot to selling marshmallow shapes that outrage conservatives so they buy Lucky Charms to destroy those Lucky Charms? Holy shit.

Erin

Okay, well now finally our Hunter Biden marshmallow makes sense on the board.

Ian

We wrote that up there three weeks ago thinking we have an answer and the question will make itself clear at some point.

JPC

This is perfect. I think we move everything from the questionable that could commit this is maybe too political to hot button into that that's definitely going in and we get the guy who's waiting right outside to just come in and record the new jingle right now.

Erin

Great. Come on in.

Adal

Hey, it's me Post Malone. We rolling? Here we go.

???

Yep. Go Post. Go Post. Cell phones, how to buy it in on a Tuesday. Marshmello. We got in one.

00:49:53

Adal

Riz, no, Riz Berries, Riz Berries.

Ian

Nice that drip. Drink that drip, milk. Post, is there any way you can work transgender bud light into the lyrics at any point? Back to one, let's take it from the top.

Adal

General Mills is the company.

Erin

General Mills.

JPC

Now Adal, all of our listeners know that you can definitely do an M&M impression, but I think we're blown away that you actually have a spot on...

Adal

I said Post Malone and I go, I don't know what he sounds like. I think truly I think the way my brain worked is I was like serial singer. Post is a serial company.

JPC

Yeah, and I was like Post Malone. He's the perfect candidate.

Ian

Everyone says he's the biggest sweetheart on the planet. Post Malone is. He's always smiling I will say.

Erin

Good to know.

Ian

There you go.

Adal

Also Karl Malone in the post.

Erin

Bye. Okay. Next puzzle. I think you're going to like that.

00:50:56

JPC

Ian on Jeopardy getting the, who's the biggest sweetie question to be asked.

Adal

I know this. Just very quickly, to keep Ian honest to us, very, very quickly. Ian, basketball for 1,000. Yeah. The question is, this, I don't know, a basketball player moved to the US at the age of 47, I want to say, to play for the Portland Trailblazers.

Erin

I wish.

???

Oh, her Venus above us. Her Venus above us.

Ian

It's her Venus above us. He was 47 years old and he had the knees of a much older man.

Adal

It truly is astounding how old the Trailblazers have always been. Sorry, Erin. Next one.

Erin

No, this is okay. This one's good. All right. It's four items. The Last Supper, the Creation of Adam, the Feast of Herod, and the Transfiguration.

Adal

Is transfiguration the blood of Christ thing? Okay.

JPC

And Ian, I gotta ask, how does it feel to be Jewish for this one? Can't feel too great.

Ian

It feels safe. It feels so great. So the last supper, that's Passover baby.

00:52:07

Adal

I think that's over without the horn. The Last Supper's a painting by... Do we know who painted that?

Ian

Well, a lot of people, but Leonardo da Vinci was one of them.

Erin

And then I think now that you have that, you'll be able to suss out where we're going with this.

Adal

The Da Vinci creation of Adam was Michelangelo. Michelangelo.

Erin

Yeah, you got it.

Adal

And we should say the creation of Adam was cool but rude.

???

Yeah.

Erin

Do you want to see a scene? Go ahead.

Ian

The creation of Adam was painted by Bebop.

Adal

It was dropped in ooze. I do want to see a scene. The four of us are the turtles. I call Donatello. Go ahead and call your turtle.

Erin

I'll be Donatello as well.

Adal

I'll also be Donatello. I will be April O'Neil. So this worked out perfectly. I should have never asked for input. Art bike committee, everyone. Art bike committee. So Ian, you are April O'Neill. The other three of us are Donatellos. And this is a weird sort of storyline where April is trying to get the turtles to accept Jesus.

00:53:13

???

Hey April.

Ian

You haven't been down in the sewer in a while. What have you been up to? Well, you know that I usually cover the news. But for once, I actually had an opportunity to hear the news. The good news that is.

Adal

Oh, like a more public TV station? I don't understand.

JPC

Well... No, good news. Hearing the good news. Are you talking about the good news of how we built an automatic pizza-making machine?

Ian

Well, it's something like an automatic pizza-making machine. But what if instead of making pizzas, it forgave everyone their sins, and instead of a machine, it was a man who was God?

Erin

Okay Donatello, start backing up slowly.

Ian

Okay, okay. Here we go. What if I told you that there was a pizza covered in not pepperoni, meat sauce, and cheese, but in forgiveness, love, and eternal life in the kingdom of heaven? How many slices would you want? I don't know guys, that sounds actually kind of good.

Adal

April, you're not wearing- Donatello, what are you doing? Walks towards April. April, you're not wearing your typical yellow jumpsuit that stinks like absolute shit.

00:54:18

Ian

You're wearing white? That's right, because I've been born again in the love of Jesus Christ. He's like Shredder, but the opposite.

Erin

I would have done that too because I'm also Donatello.

Ian

I've been so distracted by living in the light of Jesus Christ the Savior that I haven't noticed why are there three Donatellos? I cloned myself.

JPC

Something bad happened to you. Wait, wait, April. If there's three Donatellos, that means we only have one soul between the three of us. Can all three of us get saved?

Ian

That's right. Well, technically, much like Jesus, much like God, you are each a part of the er Donatello.

JPC

I love the initiation.

???

You know how I usually cover the news?

Adal

Well I heard the news.

???

That's brilliant.

00:55:37

Erin

Um, okay, we're gonna do another one.

JPC

Yes. I also do like how Jesus is the anti-shredder, not just a one-to-one for, or, uh, yeah, super, super shredder, not a one-to-one for, um, oh, uh, splinter, which is just like...

Adal

I will say it just popped into my head. I despise all religion. I would absolutely convert to, if Jesus sounded like, if Jesus sounded like Krang, all in. All in.

Ian

And if Jesus rode around in a giant God suit, that looked like an 80s pro wrestler in the tummy.

Erin

All right, seven items.

Adal

Erin, these are also great. This is the best riddles we've had in two years.

Erin

Ian, I was trying to impress you, just to be honest, and I've sourced some of the best riddles I've ever sourced.

Ian

Well, in the interest of you continuing to get really good riddles by denying you my affection and being impressed, I'm going to say I'm not impressed at all.

00:56:39

Erin

That'll only make me better, thank you. Right, exactly.

Ian

You're welcome. You're welcome.

Adal

I'm trying to do the math here.

Erin

Unbaked goods, a devilish sea creature, a shortened mile, falls first half, before you reap, orders partner, a golfer's starting point, and unbaked goods.

Ian

This is a sound of music ass one. This is a sound of music ass one.

Erin

This is a sound of music ass one.

Ian

All along I went to run. The first half of the fall.

Erin

Yeah, the first half of the fall. So, before you reap, la. Wait. Order to order. What?

Adal

What? A devilish sea creature, a deer? A ray. A ray. Okay. Okay. A ray. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank you so much.

JPC

A deer? Honestly, if I see a deer swimming around in an ocean, I'm going to be like, the devil. The devil's doing something.

Ian

Completely dry.

Erin

I can't breathe underwater with red eyes.

00:57:40

Ian

That does sound like one of the nicknames for the devil from like the year 600. Like, the deer who swims. The Morning Star. I see a deer that swims.

JPC

I'm going right to my, what is it? Amphibian Haters Group on Reddit? And being like, you look like I believe this shit.

Ian

There's a third member, folks.

Adal

Tea. Okay. This is very good. Very, very good.

Erin

All right. This one is nine items.

Adal

Okay.

Erin

Pretty cool. Here it is in the chat. A sprinter, a ballerina, a frolicor, a stone-cold fox, fox, a celestial body, a matchmaker, a cannibal, a linebacker, an odd one out.

Adal

Got it. I got it. I got it. You got it?

JPC

Man, these are so fucking hard. I have no idea here.

Adal

This is Dasher Dancer. Frolicer, Prancer, Prancer, thank you so much. Stone Cold Fox would be Fuckable.

Erin

No, Vixen. They renamed Fuckable. In 2019 they renamed Fuckable to Vixen.

Adal

Post Malone saying the new version, we all know it's Fuckable. Celestial Body would be Cloud.

00:58:46

JPC

Thank you so much.

Adal

A matchmaker would be... Cupid. Cupid, thank you so much. A cannibal would be... Dahmer. The Donner Party. The Donner Party. A linebacker would be, uh, this would be John Lynch. Blitzen.

Erin

Blitzen.

Adal

Blitzen. An odd one out would be Rudolph.

Erin

Mm-hmm. Wow. That mom's favorite is Rainier Mom. You got it.

Adal

And Celine Dion sing this.

Erin

I don't know.

Adal

I don't know. Email us at H.R.R.Podcast.com to let us know what words you heard. I always think she sounds like Elmo in that first part where she's like, Right, anybody watch Sesame Street with Elmo? I can't get on board with that. He ran real close and he ran away. Sesame Street with Elmo.

Erin

Okay, so what am I talking about? What am I doing? Who am I? I just blacked in and I'm on a Riddle podcast. Let's do maybe one more.

00:59:53

Adal

Yeah. Yes.

Erin

Okay. Yeah, that's great. Yeah. All right. This one is 10 items. Treason, forgery, slander, violating blue laws. Juvenile, incorrigibility, homicide, infidelity, larceny, perjury, criminal intent.

Ian

These are all the, all the law and orders. Oh, they're the sense where this ends.

Erin

Right?

JPC

Well, no, because it's 10, right? Well, in a way. This is the seven deadly sins plus three really fucking bad ones.

Adal

Leaving someone on red as a new sin.

Ian

What else? Ten commandments?

Erin

Ten commandments. Ten commandments. I like your answer better Adal of they're all the different law and orders.

Ian

The law and order. The tree's the law and order. The forgery. Thank you for going with an Old Testament one right after the Christmas themed one. I feel safe. I feel welcome. I feel supportive.

Erin

You guys got that way faster than I thought, so let's do another one.

JPC

Wait, which one of these is worshiping false idols?

01:00:54

Adal

That would be slander? No, that would be... Terminal intent?

JPC

Is that one of the Ten Commandments? What are blue laws?

Ian

Is that the father and mother?

JPC

I don't know what... Maybe the blue laws... When I hear blue laws, I think like thin blue line, but I'm like, that's not what that is. What are the blue ones?

Erin

I don't know. Someone will have to Google that for us.

JPC

Someone else, not one of the three of us, four of us, we're not Googling it.

Erin

Okay. Seven items. And I forgot to put them in the chat again.

Adal

These gotta be the deadly sins I'm calling it.

JPC

These have to be the deadly sins.

Erin

The prescriber, ambient, Zoloft, Xanax, Claritin, cannabis, life.

Ian

The prescriber. Post Malone's new portrayal ideas.

Adal

Yes.

JPC

Okay, so the prescriber would be... Oh, sleep.

Adal

These are all the seven dwarves. Doc. Sleepy. Doc's sleepy, happy, depression. Okay. Sneasy. Wheezy. Cannabis would be hungry.

01:02:02

Erin

Yeah, so Doc is writing prescriptions, sleepy insomnia, grumpy depression, bashful anxiety, sneezy allergies, dopey wants dope, and happy high on life.

Adal

Wow. Very cool. Wow.

Erin

You got these way faster than I thought.

Adal

Erin, if I can reveal my little secret and show the old man behind the curtain. Oh, I'm always old. The number gives it away every time.

Erin

Maybe not this one.

Adal

Uh oh.

JPC

Seven of them said it's easy.

Erin

Ah, damn it. Okay, let me read these. American drugs, Russian drugs, money, anger, God, practice.

JPC

American drugs, Russian drugs, money, anger, God, practice. This is six. Six.

Erin

Six clues.

Adal

Six highly effective habits. American drugs, Russian drugs. So what's the difference between American drugs and Russian drugs?

JPC

Oh, these are the six people you meet in heaven. Maybe you.

01:03:04

Adal

In Russia, drugs smoke you. That's a reference to when I was a child, there was a comedian named... Yakov Smirnov. Yakov Smirnov.

JPC

What are American drugs? American drugs and American drugs.

Erin

This one might be my favorite in terms of the clues, like how they chose these clues.

JPC

Money, anger, God practice.

Adal

Russian drugs. Boy, oh boy.

JPC

I don't know what any of these is leading me towards.

Erin

So I would say the list, like the American drugs, Russian drugs, is like the cause. Like they caused something to happen. American drugs caused one. Russian drugs caused one. Money caused one. Anger got in practice. These made something.

Adal

Revolutions, black market. This one might be one of the best.

JPC

Practice makes perfect.

Erin

No. The fuck? It's a specific IP that we're going for here.

01:04:08

Adal

A specific IP? Practice what you preach?

Erin

No, it's like an IP. So it's like a franchise. Are these the Fast and the Furious movies? No, I wish. I just watched all of those in order for the first time and there. The best.

Ian

They're so good.

Erin

They're so good. They give Vin Diesel with a tank top to their wedding dress. Everyone always has one detail from the movies that just sort of haunts them forever. And I love that that's yours. You've got a formal tank top. Anyway, yeah. Everyone literally has one thing where they're like, the Michelle Rodriguez character, the photo they used for her original funeral, because no one dies in the Fast and Furious franchise, she's in the background of her funeral photo. She's not even the foreground of her four funeral photo.

JPC

It's insane. Bill Butts, we just covered a band by a band called Look Mexico and they formed in like 2006 and all of their, I think they have like four albums, but all of their song titles are just Vin Diesel quotes because in 2006, this guy like thought Vin Diesel was awesome and now he's lived like a long career. So he has tons of pull quotes to to work off of. I thought that was a very fun little quirk.

01:05:20

Adal

What band was that?

JPC

It's called Look Mexico. It's like a math rock band. They're good.

Adal

So American drugs cause this. Is this like a Woodstock? American drugs caused boy oh boy.

Erin

I think that Russian drugs is helpful.

JPC

Okay, mass incarceration, the fall of the Berlin Wall. These are characters. Characters? Russian drugs.

Erin

These things caused characters to have some sort of change that happens in them that make them. Oh, are these Marvel? Yes. Yeah. Captain America. The original MCU Avengers. Yes. Yes.

Adal

Captain America. Captain America's American Drugs. Scarlet Widow.

Erin

Black Widow.

Adal

Money would be Iron Man. Anger would be Hulk. God would be Thor. Practice would be Hawkeye.

Erin

Ooh, practice is the worst. Isn't that so funny? Practice. 1520 Visions. I just want to say thank you so much Mark for these riddles. I know that there are more and I'm definitely going to use these again.

01:06:31

Adal

I want to see one final scene. Ian, you are Norse god Thor. Erin, you are the Incredible Hulk. You're in the Incredible Hulk form at the moment. JPC, you are Hawkeye. Thor and Hulk, you're trying to like really... Hawkeye's thinking about quitting. He has imposter syndrome and you two are trying to sort of pump him up.

Erin

Knock, knock. Can we come in? I brought the left saw.

JPC

Guys, please. It's like I I'd really just rather not like my decisions kind of final and I I'm I think I'm I think I'm done No, I'm just gonna come over here and sit on the end of your bed.

Ian

No There are so many situations where someone who can shoot an arrow really could be really useful why can't

JPC

I don't know. We were out in the field the other day and Black Widow just had like guns and was doing like killing way more bad guys than me and it was I was it was going super slow.

01:07:37

Erin

Yeah, your kill count is way less than ours, but you're like a fun little pet we have around. Your personality higher, huh Guy? Come on!

JPC

Come on!

Ian

Yeah, I think you need to lean into that. Like, sort of, you know, embrace the fact that you're not good at shooting, at fighting, or, you know, convincing bad guys not to be bad.

Erin

You don't have a distinctive costume. You're sort of forgettable. You're no one's favorite.

JPC

This is not helping. And also, guys, I'm the only one that I think has, like, a wife and kids. Like, it doesn't, I should go, I should spend more time with him.

Adal

A door gets kicked open and there's a bad guy at the door. Nobody move. Nobody move.

Erin

Oh no, there's a bad guy right there. Oh, I hope our friend has his arrows ready to shoot him.

Ian

He looks like the kind of guy that can only be defeated by arrows.

Adal

I am Applehead, and my one power by the apple on the top of my head infuses me. Is the guy on the right?

JPC

Tony, I know it's you. I know it's you. You're wearing an apple on top of an Iron Man suit, okay? I know it's you. Look, I appreciate it guys, but this is not... I don't need to kill a guy who has an Applehead. That's not what I need right now.

01:08:46

Adal

Okay, who William told? Well, back in my Bentley, I'm going to the Hamptons.

Erin

Well, we did it. You made it through all the riddles. You were great. Fantastic guest. Please come back anytime.

Ian

I would love to. This was so much fun. Thank you for having me.

JPC

Ian, where else can people check you out or even where else can they find your show?

Ian

I'm going to be, you can listen to all fantasy, everything, everywhere podcasts are sold. When does this come out?

JPC

This is coming out, I think the second week of October.

Ian

Fantastic. Follow me on social media, at Ian Karmel on all those platforms. I'll be in Vancouver, BC doing stand up at the end of November. I'll be in Austin, Texas doing stand up at the Vulcan Gas Company, October 8th and 9th. I'm in LA doing stand up November 1st at the Dynasty Typewriter. I love that space.

Erin

That's awesome. Adal, anything to plug?

01:09:48

Adal

I want to see my plug if Ian can tell me in 10 to 15 seconds who the Trailblazers should trade Dame Lillard for.

Ian

Ooh. I mean, listen, there's no good answer for that. I think we got to get halfway into the season and see which teams are outperforming their expectations. Okay. Ideally, that'll be the Brooklynettes, perhaps Utah Jazz, somebody with draft assets and not Tyler Hero. Okay. Thank you so much. Erin, anything to plug or promote?

Erin

No, I had the same thing. I had the exact same question, so ask and answer. Um, JPC, could you read a review from the show first, please?

JPC

Thank God, because I'm also Donatello and I also have the exact same question. So I'll just skip to reading a review. If you want to get a five-star review featured on the show, just leave us a five-star review. I might pick yours. Hey, today I picked Chili Cheese Fritos. They say, I play rain noises every night to sleep out. I first found out about this podcast after I listened to Flight Risk featuring Hey Riddle Riddle on Dungeons and Daddies. I started with the Clue Crew free trial and three days later upgraded to Review Crew. Okay, that's the kind of action we like to see. Also love all of Arnie's themes. I think he's so much Chili Cheese Fritos.

01:10:49

Adal

Uh, very nice. Thank you so much for that review. Um, Erin, I don't- One of the little Fritos, by the way. Sorry to interrupt. Oh no.

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You hear how to walk in Taco?

Adal

Uh, Erin, I don't know if you know this. Um, Thor's hammer actually has a really cool name. It's, uh, you know, Thor's obviously lives in the skies and in heaven. So, uh, do you know the name of Thor's hammer?

Erin

Jupiter?

???

Bye forever. Created by Adal Rifai. Starting, Erin Keif. Ian, you really undersold your skills. I was surprised as well. You were knocking them out.

01:11:50

Ian

I kind of blacked out. I will not remember this. That was a Headgum podcast.