Which Riddle Riddle?

#211: Or Else Forget About It! w/ Dan Lippert & Ryan Rosenberg

00:00:02

???

This is a HeadGum podcast.

Adal

All right, let me take attendance here. Keif, Erin.

Erin

Here.

Adal

Okay, you can sit down.

Erin

No, thank you. No, no need to do a little twirl.

Adal

Okay. Cohen, Patrick, John.

JPC

Present. My mom told me that I should always say present because my presence is a gift.

Adal

Huh. And you can sit down.

00:01:03

JPC

I'd like to shake your hand. And thank you for all that you do. Ooh, quite a grip there. Thank you. My mom has had me training.

Adal

For... Gripping. Huh. And so you just use one of those... One of those machines. It's like two little... What is that? It's like a hinge. It's like two bars and a hinge. A pulley. What is it? A pulley? Huh, okay. All right, the grip and your forearms are huge. You're like a little Popeye. Thank you so much, sir. Can I ask what your diet is? I didn't get this much attention. Erin?

Erin

What? Sit on the window sill. You're in trouble.

Adal

Sit on the window sill. All right, let's go further down the list here. And this is not in any particular order. Rosenberg.

Guest1

You sure I still think you could? Yes, yes, yes.

Adal

We started with Kean went to sea. Rosenberg comma Ryan? Yes, hello. Oh, wow. You are sweaty.

Guest0

Well, I'm nervous.

Adal

Huh. This is the 10th week of school.

Guest0

I just didn't know if you were going to call on me today. You forgot that one day and they just... Oh yeah.

00:02:08

Adal

Well, you were all chalkboard and you said chalkboard. Yeah.

Guest0

There was the day we were all clear, but you saw me then, but yeah, the chalkboard day was hard.

Adal

And I told you, we can't use that term all clear because that's what we say when we sweep the school for mountain lines.

Guest0

All clear. And instead there was a nude boy.

Adal

There was a nude boy. I don't know what you're talking about. I loved your fashion, which brings us to today's lesson.

Erin

No, Mr. Adal sir, there's still a bad boy who's smoking in the back of the class who you didn't call on.

Adal

Wait, who's that revving their motorcycle? Lippert comma Dan? Sup.

JPC

Holy shit. Oh, wow.

Adal

He's so cool. Wait, no, you're the teacher. Get it in control. Uh, Mr. Lippert, can we get off our motorcycle, please? Teacher, no, you're sweaty. I know, I'm just so nervous. He's so bad.

Guest0

But it's the 10th week of school. Yeah, he smokes cigarettes and rises motorcycle in class every day.

00:03:10

Adal

Man, he's so cool. What product are you using your hair, Mr. Lippert? Uh, um, moose.

Guest0

Holy shit. Whoa, he's got moose in there.

Adal

Well, he knows the name of the product. He doesn't care so much, he forgot what it was.

???

No free pub. Wow.

Adal

You gotta pay me to get my product pubbed. Mr. Lippert, would you mind doing some donuts on your bike in the classroom? Yeah, no problem. Can we all fit on there? Come on, class. Let's hop on this hog. All right. It's just you on there right now.

???

Whee!

Guest0

Oh, my toe!

JPC

My toe! My toe! My toe!

Guest0

My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe! My toe!

Adal

Sorry guys, I was just having a dream, the dream again. You know the one I told you about where I'm a teacher and you're all my bad, nasty little students.

Erin

Yeah, I'm Adal Rifai. I'm Erin Keif.

00:04:13

Adal

I'm GPC. And we have two guests today, Ryan Rosenberg and Dan Lippert, who you already met. And this is another episode of Hey Riddle Riddle, the podcast where we try and solve riddles.

Erin

I don't feel great saying that. I don't feel great. Hi Dan. Hi Ryan. How are your summers going?

Guest0

Great question. They're fantastic.

???

Good. It's a hot one. I do feel like I'm about seven inches from the midday sun.

Guest0

Ooh, too close. Now that's a song.

???

Yeah.

Guest0

I know that. That's a Rob Thomas Santana song. That's right.

JPC

Wow. That's the Santana song featuring Rob Thomas. Okay. Let's give credit with a king. That's on Santana Supernatural.

Guest0

Could you imagine Santana being on a song and it not being his? Yeah, right. That dude's fricking hitting tasty licks nonstop. Every song he's on is his.

Adal

What was his, was he in a band or was he just solo his whole career? Someone explained this to me recently.

00:05:15

???

I've learned a lot about Santana recently. And I've maybe even said it on a podcast or learned it on a podcast.

Guest0

Because you're in a new club of guys who all dress like that.

???

We're the hat boys. I thought Supernatural was unique in that he was duetting with a bunch of artists, but he's never the singer on his songs. Like Black Magic Woman, that's not him singing. It's always been him playing guitar. Interesting. And somebody else singing on the songs, which was a surprise to me. Hey Riddle Riddle.

Adal

Oh, he's just a shredding guitarist.

???

Yeah, it's been explained to me two weeks ago, and I already forgot what he did before. I think he did covered some songs and rocked it, and then kind of realized that he could duet with people and people would like it. I think that's maybe what happened, but I can't really remember.

00:06:34

Adal

There's a two or three year period in my high school where my group of friends would just obnoxiously you like you go to the lunch line and you say like gimme some milk make it whole or else forget about it like everything we said was in that cadence so it's almost like hey French Nighter what are you doing or whatever But it was that one lyric.

JPC

Doesn't sing, though. When you say he duets, he just plays guitar while someone does it. Yeah, he makes it sing. Yeah, the guitar is really singing.

Guest0

Yeah, that's singing.

JPC

Okay, I don't know. I'm not a Santana guy. I don't have the hat.

Adal

Clearly you've never listened to Peter Frampton, who makes the guitar talk to the audience. Here I am.

Guest0

Adal, can you remember any other little tunes like that? Because we can definitely make up a million, but if you have any, I would love to hear them.

Adal

I feel like a lot were food related, so there's like, give me some shrimp, make them grilled, or else forget about it.

Erin

Give me some hugs, make them warm, or else forget about it.

Guest0

It's crazy we would have been perfect friends in high school.

00:07:35

Adal

I know. Somebody once, and this wasn't a sincere request, but they said, give me a kiss, make it French, or else forget about it. So just, I mean, we were wild childs. We were so good about it.

Erin

We are real party animals, huh, Adal?

Adal

The principal will come by and shush us and we'd quiet down like good little hat boys.

Guest0

Give me a shush, make it quieter.

JPC

We might as well just park a squad car outside that high school because we're going to be going there every day.

Adal

Dan and Ryan, it was so good to see you. We saw you not too long ago in LA. We went to a very nice Italian place and had some pasta. We went for drinks. We recorded an episode of Man Now Dog. I feel like we got to see a lot of you.

JPC

It's okay.

Adal

You changed the name halfway through.

JPC

No, it's a great name. You guys did nothing wrong. This one's on Adal. That's what I just need to reiterate. It does not matter. Yes.

???

But yeah, it was so nice. We got to see so much of you guys. That was a nice weekend, wasn't it? Care to comment? Well, I will say... And anything for us? Your go-to Adal at... Every time we do a podcast together, we simply have to mention that other Italian place that I'm forgetting the name of now.

00:08:57

Adal

Oh, not Buka Di Beppo.

???

It's a little... Is your go-to the mushroom pasta? Couldn't possibly be. No, it's not. I hate mushroom. Oh, I just got that last time I was there and it was so good and I thought of you because I was like, this is Adal's favorite.

Adal

I always get the grilled artichoke. I always get something with meatballs because their meatballs are pretty great. And then I can't remember what else I get. They also have like a little deli connected to it. I want to order something with meatballs.

Guest1

It's something with meatballs.

Adal

Sir, we have spaghetti meatballs.

Guest1

No, that's not it.

Adal

That's not it. The ribeye and meatballs? I come here all the time. It's something with meatballs. The duck lorage meatballs. But they have a little deli connected to the space that has surprisingly phenomenal sandwiches and stuff.

Guest0

I love how you use the space.

Adal

The space. I'm a bit of a chef myself. Behind. Wow.

JPC

Right. You said that like every acting teacher I've ever had.

00:09:59

Adal

Explore the space. Sir, you're just bumbling around the restaurant. Come on.

???

What was interesting about that visit, the dinner night, is I don't really do second locations much anymore. I get pretty tired pretty quickly.

Adal

So say I was kidnapping you, and I said, get in the car, and you get in, and then I say like, you got to a field, what do you do? Do you say I don't do second location?

Erin

I'm a little tired. I got work in the morning.

???

It's just with the pandemic, it's just hard for me lately. You know, I've lost my social stamina, so I would love to. Whatever's happening, let's do it in the car.

JPC

I love how you're like, I don't do second locations. I'll get in the car, but that's where I got the car.

Guest0

Drinks in the car.

Guest1

Yeah.

JPC

If they ever try to get you into a car, that's fine. But if they start going to a second location, that's where you draw the line.

Guest0

So as keys turn in the ignition, you're screwed.

Erin

We went to a second location that night.

???

We went to a second location and it was wonderful to keep hanging out. And I got really tired just from life and second location, but I was like, I don't want to stop hanging out. And that's always a tough place to be where it's like, this is not an indicator, but you got to do it. Your friends are in town from Chicago. It's not an indicator of like this hang. I would have done a third location, but I hate that feeling now where I get pretty tired pretty quickly and I'm just kind of like it's sometimes my niece will like it's bedtime and she keeps thinking of new conversations to stay awake, but she's like loopy and I kind of felt that way.

00:11:36

Erin

Yeah, you started halfway through going like, if you guys were kind of cheese, what kind of cheese would you be?

Adal

And every time Dan went to get in his Uber, I was like, why is this guy? Hey Dan, why is this guy? And he just kept patting me on my head and putting a bunch of leaves over my chest. And Dan goes, shush, shush, shush, go to bed.

???

Go to sleep. And then Erin was like, I need a ride home. Can you guys please take me home? I'm going to go out of our way.

Erin

That's my nightmare. I think I said sorry the whole time. He kept trying to change the subject. I was like, I just am sitting here in the back feeling so sorry.

Adal

Something that you guys truly did that was memorable to me, because I don't think many people do this, if anyone I know does this, I called an Uber. I think you were like, we could give you a ride. I'm like, no, no, I'm in the opposite direction. And then you were like, well, we'll stay with you until your Uber arrives. And I thought that was just like the most pleasant thing that you guys could possibly do. Wow. That was very nice.

JPC

Dan won't go to a second location and he'll stay and wait for your Uber.

00:12:37

Adal

This is a good guy. This is a good guy. I mean, you guys didn't talk to me the whole time. You were pissed.

Guest0

Oh man. I'll tell you what. I was ready to leave at appetizers. Before the mains and before the second location. I was like, this was fine. I prefer on some sort of intermediary, like a computer would be better for me.

Adal

Well, that's why we love your honesty, Ryan.

Guest0

Well, I loved that you guys bought dinner. That was fantastic. Wait a second, we didn't pay for dinner? Uh oh!

JPC

I think we stole bitter from that restaurant.

Erin

That was the night that I did something so insane and it was so insane that it reminded I was like oh my god I'm turning into my mom which was JPC and I were the last to arrive. We walked up to the hostess and we know we're meeting people.

JPC

By the way I laughed so hard at Erin when she did this.

Erin

I, she said, table for two? And with all the confidence in the world, I went, yes, thank you.

00:13:40

JPC

And I said, no. I said, we're meeting a party of six.

Erin

He was like, we can see our party of six at their table. They're at our eyeline.

JPC

Erin said, Erin said yes so much faster than I was able to be like, oh, we're meeting people. It was, I was shocked. That's why she said that we were dining together.

Guest0

Now where do you think that came from? Did you just totally forget or were you just like sort of like do the conversation?

Erin

You know how you just sort of accidentally copy the rhythm of your parents? You just sort of turn into them? My mom just sort of has this insane blind confidence of delusion where she forgets what's going on sometimes and then dies laughing. And I just felt like I was my mom for a second. I blacked out and turned into my mom.

Adal

I can't tell you the sort of leading question of a host can really throw you in terms of my entire life whenever I go into a restaurant it's always will you be dining with us or if I'm with three people they'll be like table for three or whatever that is do you have reservations and one time only once in my life I went into a restaurant and the host literally said she looked at me and she goes can I help you and I'd never heard that response or that initiation from a host and so I stood there for a minute I go uh Yeah. Can I eat some food? And that's literally what I said is, can I eat some food? And she goes, of course. But I was so thrown by what I was expecting the host to say and then what they said. And closing that gap took so long mentally because I was unprepared for it.

00:15:15

Erin

You panicked. Have either of you ever worked at a restaurant?

???

Ryan worked at Cheesecake Factory and also a rib company. What's that place called?

Guest0

Yes, the Naples Rib Company down in Long Beach and then I also worked at a Chili's.

???

Wow, the dream.

JPC

Dan, did you say you worked at Cheesecake Factory?

???

No, Ryan did. I worked at a place called Carl Strauss, a restaurant brewery.

JPC

I have a question for you, Ryan, for the Cheesecake Factory. Did you have to fill out a personality test before you worked at the Cheesecake Factory? Yes. Wow, I did that too. It was like a 200 question personality quiz.

Guest0

It's crazy. It feels like you're like taking like the Men in Black quiz or something. It's like so long.

Adal

Did you shoot a little girl who was out at night? So she must have been an alien?

Guest0

That's honestly how I got it. No, it was crazy. Yeah. And then they, they don't really tell you what the results of the personality quiz are, but they were like, yeah, we're just trying to, we try to have like a variance of types of people. So if we have a lot of this type, we'll get, and I'm like, I don't know. It seems like just like a psychopath test or something. I don't know.

00:16:20

JPC

Yeah. Yeah. It seems very strange. And like they're there. They're as far as I know, what are the only restaurants that does that?

Guest0

They do so much crazy stuff.

Erin

Before you can start working there, you have to do. I don't know why, but this is the best news.

Guest0

Oh, Cheesecake Factory is so weird.

Adal

It is like the most corporate thing ever. We'll be out you saying the name so they don't come after you like Scientologists do.

Guest0

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adal

It's bigger than that, dude. You're gonna wake up with a cheesecake in your bed tomorrow.

Guest0

Oh, I fucking hope so.

JPC

I have a cousin who's worked at the Cheesecake Factory for like 20 years and she, like her husband makes a really good money and she doesn't really need to work but she loves working there so much and she loves her like friends that she's made of her and there's like a group of them that have been there for like over a decade and they just love the Cheesecake Factory. It's very strange.

Guest0

I had a different experience. the crazy thing of like the corporateness of it is just that there's like a million things on the menu so you have to do you start by working there you get hired and then you go to like a local Cheesecake Factory and do a week of like classroom studying like you're going at the Cheesecake Factory Sort of, but like you just look at the menu a bunch and then like at the end you dress up in your cheesecake like all whites with a tie and then you sort of like tour the restaurant for me.

00:17:45

Adal

I wish they got it was like blue collar fact like they was like jumpsuits and like goggles like factory floor position wear.

Guest0

Really intense like yeah assembly line stuff. Um, but it was, it was the weirdest job ever because they're so serious about it and then it's cheesecake. You know what I mean? It's just not, it doesn't make sense.

JPC

It's the same job as every other job. You just have the restaurant serving the food.

Guest0

Right. And they would always get mad at people for not having clean enough uniforms. And I'm like, literally you serve every messy thing in the world and we were all white. Like what do you expect?

JPC

It's wild. All right. I know, I know we haven't done any riddles yet and people are going to be justifiably upset.

Adal

Carlos Santana's career. That was Riddle.

JPC

Yeah, that's kind of a riddle. I do want to see a quick scene. Adal, you're walking into a cheesecake factory and you're just trying to apply for a job at the Cheesecake Factory and we are going to be various parts of the cheesecake application process.

Adal

Ding, ding, knock, knock.

Guest0

Hello, is anybody? You're fired. You already rang the bell and knocked on the door. You're fired.

00:18:48

Adal

Oh, well, I'll leave, but just so you know, my twin brother also applied and he might be coming in shortly.

Guest0

Okay, you saved it. You can try it one more time.

Adal

Fuck yes. Well, he's really waiting outside, but I'll be fast. My name is Glory and named after the movie and I am interested in working at the Cheesecake Factory.

Guest0

What do we think? What do we think? If you're looking at them head to toe, first reactions.

Adal

Who are those people seated up in the rafters there? Is that some sort of high council?

Guest0

That's the Peanut Gallery. They're eating peanuts and they're in the gallery and they are the elders.

JPC

That message from the high gallery, I hand you this envelope to deliver their verdict.

Guest0

Uh, needs a haircut. Are you willing to get a haircut right now?

JPC

Oh, um, my name is Peter. I, if you will be accepting the haircut, I will be providing the haircut.

00:19:48

Adal

Yeah. Is it going to look like yours, Peter?

JPC

Yes. I cut my own hair and I cut everyone's hair at the cheesecake factory in accordance of what the high council divides.

Adal

Okay. Um, yeah, I guess I'll, I'll take a quick trim. Okay.

JPC

One long stripe of negative space down the middle of the head and the bowl cut for the rest.

Adal

I'm like a reverse monk, but I only like being outdoors. I had this fun little Tony Shalhoub joke.

JPC

Collect your hair in the bowl that I used to cut the hair and I'll be on my way. You'll see me in four hours.

Guest0

Hey. Well, you've passed your first test. Congratulations. Oh, yes. Awesome. Now... Oh, we're... Whoa.

Erin

Sorry. They handed me the sword and I applied at the same time as you. I think we have to kill each other or one of us has to kill the other and whoever lives gets to stay and work here.

Adal

Oh, no. Oh, you're holding that sword wrong. You just impaled yourself.

Erin

I did. I panicked. Oh, no. Oh, God. I panicked.

00:20:49

Guest0

Oh no, you were such a promising student here at the Cheesecake Factory. Well, you've moved on to the next round. Am I doing good or am I just kind of lucking into things? Well, you are coasting by, but we need to hire someone by Tuesday, so that's good for you. Okay, okay, all right. Next you'll meet the Oracle. The Oracle knows all and questions none. Hello, hello, hello, my beautiful friend. Oh, the oracle's like a lounge singer?

Adal

Yes, he's a hemocron.

???

Welcome to the factory.

Adal

I see the oracle has a table with every dish laid out in front and I have to choose one and if I choose correctly I get hired? Is that right?

???

Yes. Wow. It has been foretold that somebody would know exactly what the cakes here were for. But this one is still scared. I sense fear inside of them.

00:21:59

Adal

Oh, yeah, I guess I'm a little nervous because I need a job for the summer and also my brother's outside waiting and I want to hurry up for him.

???

Well, he'll just have to wait just a little bit longer. Please, please, please.

Adal

Can't you tell your brother? Okay, I choose the Bang Bang Shrimp. Very good. The best cheesecake of them all.

Erin

Scene.

Guest0

This is the Bang Bang Shrimp Cheesecake. Wait, am I crazy? Does Cheesecake Factory have food? Yeah, they do. Yes, absolutely. They do.

JPC

Am I crazy? You're not crazy. They do have food.

Guest0

God, I'll tell you what, that is a missed opportunity. They do need savory cheesecakes, I think.

Adal

There's a place in New Orleans that serves alligator cheesecake. Really? What's in it? If you ever want to ruin your palate, blow out your palate.

???

It's the most empty place in New Orleans.

00:23:00

Erin

You'll know it by the no line.

JPC

It's classically a good food town, except this one place is always empty. Now we are one table in the middle of the swamp, but we do serve the only elegant cheesecake. Can you imagine going to Cheesecake Factory, ordering the bag bag shrimp as your entree, and then being like, let's get dessert, and then being like, do you want to try the bag bag shrimp cheesecake? Shit, I keep doubling that. It was pretty good. Whoever you're with is like, do you just come here all the time and do this?

Adal

Well speaking of coming here all the time and doing this, we should get to A Riddle. Yes. Here we go, here's our first riddle of the show. How do you make the number one disappear? How do you make the number one disappear? Erase it is pretty good Dan Lippert. That's a phenomenal answer but not the one I see here.

Erin

That's a better answer I bet.

Guest0

How do you make the number one disappear?

Adal

That is how someone like a mom would talk to a child while potty trading. And I do want to see a scene.

00:24:00

Guest1

No. We just got to it.

JPC

Fine. Is this that thing from The Dark Knight where the Joker puts number one on the table and then the mob guy comes up to it and he smacks his little nose into it or whatever? I've had enough of this sick freak. I don't like that word.

Guest0

Do you add a zero?

Adal

Ryan, you are very close. You do add something, but it's not a zero. How do you make the number one disappear?

Erin

You double it. You add it.

Adal

You... Ooh, Erin, can I talk to you over here?

Erin

Hi.

Adal

Hey, I love you. You're doing great.

Erin

I love you too. Bye. You look so... We did a sidebar so Adal could tell me that he loves me.

00:25:05

???

That was sweet. Look at Erin's dog's butthole.

???

Loose dog in your apartment, Erin. Look away! Don't look here. You're staring at us.

Guest0

I mean she doesn't wear anything.

???

Oh god.

Adal

Erin I hate to bring it up now but you do have a alfalfa type circle around your eye where you're clearly looking through your dog's bow.

Guest0

Oh no you don't. There could be something in there, don't judge me yet.

Adal

Erin what the fuck is wrong with you?

Guest1

Whatever man.

Adal

So you do have to add something. And versus adding a number, I would suggest adding something else. How do you make the number one disappear?

JPC

Oh, this is like a restaurant, like a number one. I'll have a number one. You eat it. You eat it. You 86 it.

Adal

Yeah. So if you're not adding a number, you're probably adding... A time. A letter? A letter. Okay. So what can you add to one to make it disappear? This is just any, it's just one letter.

00:26:11

Erin

A T. A G, it's gone.

Adal

Oh no, hold on, explain T. Nothing. We gotta get rid of tone.

Erin

Out of G. Hey tone, you're gone. Erin, you are correct. I'm not leaving.

Adal

If you add a G, it does create the word gone. Nice. Very good, nice job. Okay, okay, I get that, that's fun.

Erin

I'm sorry to get a riddle while a guest is here. I try not to humiliate our guests by answering.

???

How do you make the number one disappear?

Erin

I think I gotta go.

Guest0

No, no.

Adal

That was a question? That was a question. And that was to add a G and make it gone.

???

That's how you would make the word one disappear. Dan is right. If you add a G, then you've got G1.

Adal

Guys, I can't stress enough. I didn't make these and I'm so sorry.

???

No, you can't stress that enough. I honestly forgot about the Riddle part of this podcast and it sucks. You don't make the riddles.

Guest1

You don't prepare anything.

Adal

Fine. Dan, tell us about working for Chris Strauss or Trisha Stratus or whatever it was. I'll tell you about both. Working for Trisha Strauss was a possibility to hit me in the dick all the time.

00:27:18

Guest1

How were her puppies?

JPC

Trisha Stratus suplexed me into a bolivian. And all I got was this t-shirt.

Adal

Adal, you add an N. Uh, excuse me. None. None. Oh, that also works. Let's do another riddle here. This one, this is maybe a little better. What do you call a woman who knows where her husband is at all times? What do you call a woman who knows where her husband is at all times?

JPC

Oh, does she have that Find My Phone app? Are they sharing location data? Possibly. Yeah, we just do that now because it's easier. You share the location data, you always know.

Erin

This is from a 90s stand-up set. It feels like it is.

Guest0

What do you call a woman who knows where her husband is at all times?

???

A Siamese wife?

Guest0

That's what he is. Oh, I know! What is it? A widow. Ryan, you got it! Holy cow!

00:28:19

???

That's so sad. I hate when riddles are sad.

Guest0

That's where my brain went. Very thick. Dead guy.

JPC

But also, hold on. Just so I know. Just so I know. If one of them dies, you don't get married anymore, right?

Adal

Yeah, still married when one of them dies, though, right? Fuck, all these loopholes. I do want to see a scene.

JPC

Because the doctor told me it was illegal to be married to a corpse.

Adal

The doctor told you that? Well, you can't get married to a corpse.

JPC

Erin's a very good doctor.

???

Okay, whatever.

Adal

I do want to see a scene before break here. Erin and Ryan, you are two widows out on a double date. Do you have dates with you, played by Dan and JBC, but they are basically just gas escaping? And so you just try to have a nice dinner as widows? I'm sorry, at Trish Rydas' rib check.

Guest0

Yours. Oh, good.

Erin

You brought Mark.

Guest0

Yeah, yeah. Yours seems nice.

Erin

Yes.

Guest0

What is his, that's Samuel.

00:29:19

Erin

Yes, he's going to wave at you.

Guest0

Now. Almost, almost. Well, I say we have a couple glasses of wine and grab their credit cards.

Erin

Love it.

Guest0

And have a wonderful evening.

Erin

I'll take two steaks to go. Yes.

Guest0

Can I get the lobster tail? And you know what? Throw in the front half of the body as well. I used to be someone. Who are you?

Adal

Trisha Strauss? Tristratus. I used to be someone.

Guest1

Tristratus?

Adal

Who are you? I was on WWE now. Oh, the announcers would swoon over me.

Guest0

Oh, I'm sorry, honey.

Adal

Okay, thank you. I'll put in your order.

Erin

Thank you.

Guest0

Thank you. So, what are you thinking of doing for Christmas this year?

Erin

Um, I was thinking about maybe, I don't know, getting on a plane, going somewhere hot.

Adal

Sorry, did you say Trish, miss?

00:30:19

Erin

Don't make this about you, sweetie. No. You don't need to do this.

Adal

I could go through this table, no problem. You wanna see? On your back? My back, my head, my neck, yeah. Do you want to, it's $20 extra if you don't throw me through this table.

Erin

No, you don't need to do this. Okay.

Guest0

I'd do it for 10.

Adal

All right, now we got a customer.

Guest0

Hey, great job.

Erin

You guys, they were committed so hard.

JPC

I was googling Trish Stratus walk out music because I was like, I can't remember what her walk out music is. I would love to play it as a backdrop to this scene.

Adal

Did you find it?

Guest0

I didn't remember that name.

Adal

Well, we are going to look that up and we will be right back with more, Hey Riddle Riddle and Trish Stratus.

Guest0

Do you think we got that part where I said I didn't remember that name right now? I know what you're thinking. Do I have a new hat? Adal and JPC? New haircut? Why am I walking around with so much confidence?

JPC

I bet you're wondering. I wanted pretzels from the food court. And I was just going to let you know that it looks like you leaned on paint.

00:31:45

Erin

Anyways, I just had a bunch of subscriptions canceled for me by Rocket Money that I wasn't using. And so now I'm flushed with cash and now I'm confident. Pretzel money? Well, maybe we'll talk about that. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps you lower your bills all in one place. I've been using it for years, even before they were a sponsor.

JPC

Erin, it looks like you may have leaned on like with someone painting a rocket money like billboard or sign or something because it's all it's all down your back it's like and it's I could ock it ock it

Erin

People think they're spending $80 on their subscriptions when in reality, the number is closer to $200. And when you signed up for so many free trials, like streaming services, you watch one show and then you completely forget about it. You lose track and then all of a sudden you're like, why am I bleeding money? Rocket money? They take care of that for you. They go, sit back, relax. We got this. And they make everything color coded and easy and super intuitive.

00:32:48

Adal

You're also color-coded. A little birdie told me that Rocket Money also lets you monitor all your expenses in one place, recommends custom budgets based on your past spending, and they'll even send you notifications when you've reached your spending limits, which sounds like something my friend would like, but I forget which friend I'm so hungry for pretzels.

JPC

Speaking of pretzels, you don't get all twisted up by salty and the bread of your finances. With over 3 million users and counting, Rocket Money customers have saved an average of $720 a year.

Erin

Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and manage your money the easy way by going to rocketmoney.com slash riddle. That's rocketmoney.com slash riddle. rocketmoney.com slash r-i-d-d-l-e.

JPC

Hey, what's going on? Somebody leaned over my rocket money painting. Run. Everybody run. Run. Oh no. Maroon.

Guest0

Is that Da Vinci?

Erin

Yeah. Yes. And bye. Hi, Adal and JPC.

00:33:54

Adal

Oh, greetings. Greetings, Erin. We're just- Hey, Erin. Our normal selves today. I'm just myself. I'm normal. Hey, we're both normal.

Erin

Good news. So I finally opened Erin's Land in my backyard. It's a theme park. Most of the rides work. Most are pretty safe and I'm trying to start a website so people can find out all the information they need to get into Erin's Land.

JPC

Oh, that's actually perfect Erin because this podcast is actually sponsored by Squarespace. Yeah, and it's an all-in-one, like, website platform for, you know, entrepreneurs or whatever you consider yourself to be to kind of, like, stand out online. Whether you're just starting out, which it seems like you may be, or you're trying to build a successful growing brand, Squarespace is going to make it really easy for you to create a beautiful website, Erin.

Adal

Yeah, and Erin, if you want Erinland, I think is what you call it, to have stuff like custom merch. You can do that. You can easily sell custom merch and create a passive income stream that engages your audience and scales your brand. You design your products and production, inventory, shipping, all of it, handled for you, saving you time and money.

00:35:02

JPC

So, I mean, real quick, just because I'm looking around at Erinland, I'm just going to say what I think Erinland is from what you're presenting.

Erin

Sure.

JPC

So right now it looks like Erinland is a lot of goo.

Erin

Mm-hmm. Great eye.

JPC

Okay, so I'm right about goo. So it's a lot of goo. So are you trying to sell this goo? Because if the goo is for sale, then Squarespace does have an online store where you can sell your products online, whether it's physical like this goo, digital, like I imagine you have some digital goo or photos of people seeing the goo for the first time. Yeah, Squarespace has what you need. It has the tools to start selling online.

Erin

I'm looking forward to using it because I can use insights to grow my business. I can learn when site visits and sales are coming in and coming from to analyze which channels are most effective. I can improve my website and build a marketing strategy based on your top keywords like goo or most popular products and content like goo.

Adal

Huh, it's kinda eating through my shoes, it's starting to burn. Head to squarespace.com for a free trial, and when you're ready to launch, go to squarespace.com slash riddle to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain.

00:36:13

JPC

Erin, I just got some great analytics from Squarespace. It says people don't like goo. Huh.

Erin

Yay! I'm in a lot of debt now.

JPC

This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Hey everybody, this is GPC.

Erin

I'm here too.

JPC

Yeah, Erin's here as well. And it's with a heavy heart that we kind of do this ad read because one of our own, Mr. Adal Rifai, is not with us.

Erin

He is unfortunately stuck in a cat costume. They're calling it a medical phenomenon. And a disaster. But we're gonna soldier on. We're gonna be brave today. I do want to talk to my better help therapist a little later about what this has done to my nervous system.

JPC

We're gonna need that, yep.

Erin

And if you're thinking of starting therapy, you should give BetterHelp a try. It's entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. All you have to do is fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with your licensed therapist, and you can switch therapists any time for no additional charge. Conventional therapy where you had to drive to an office never really worked well for me. Like today, I get to send my therapist a message saying, you know how Adal loves to dress up like a cat? And sometimes he gets stuck, well this time he might. Be somewhere.

00:37:40

JPC

Erin, let's not think like that. Let's not think like that. Okay, because that's a negative spiral and that's going to lead us to needing more better help. I mean, if you think that conventional therapy is the only way to do therapy, then I beg of you. Have one of your best friends in this world get stuck in a cat costume and they can't find where the zipper starts. I don't know if we mentioned that, but that's one of the biggest problems. It's all zipped up.

Erin

Okay, so get a break from your thoughts like this.

JPC

Intrusive thought. Bad.

Erin

Visit BetterHelp.com slash Riddle today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash Riddle, R-I-D-D-L-E.

JPC

Oh, Erin, speaking of 10% off, this is actually good news. I just got a text from the medical staff. It looks like the cat costume is 10% off. So 90% to go pray for our friend.

Guest1

It's not enough.

???

It's not enough. It's barely the toes. It's not enough for him to have a normal life.

Erin

I'm having a great time.

00:38:44

JPC

Well, Erin, fall is officially here, which means it's time to get into our fall routines. And there's nothing that I love more than using my Raycon wireless earbuds to listen to some classic fall music. I'm sorry, I want to do this. I just can't do this because I know that my friend Adal is stuck in a full body cat costume and that includes

Erin

fabric over the ears and I know he can't use his Raycon wireless earbuds and it just no you could do this you started so well you're being very brave Raycon gives you up to eight hours of playtime and 32 hour battery life and they are so good and smooth and the optimized gel tips they feel like butter in your ears

JPC

All Adal wanted was 8 hours of playtime and now he's going to have an eternity of playtime except we're not playing games anymore because he's really stuck in that suit.

Erin

Hey here, I'll distract you. Raycon's Everyday Earbuds have over 78,000 five-star reviews and they're priced just right. You get quality audio for half the price of other premium audio brands.

00:39:45

JPC

I wish we were able to give all of our listeners quality audio but I just know in my heart That with the big guy all sewn up in that suit, it's just not gonna be possible to have the same quality of audio that we normally deliver. I can't stop making the ad, which is supposed to be about Raycon earbuds, that you love, that I love! I can't stop making it about my friend who's trapped in a cat costume.

Erin

No, no, remember? There's like noise isolation and you can do three customizable sound profiles just completely suited to you. Hi Fidelity Audio, come on GBC, we can do this!

JPC

They also have an awareness mode and I've heard that Adal is now stuck in permanent awareness mode because he's aware of all of his cat-like appendages and he's starting to forget what it feels like to be a man because he is going to be only cat from here on out.

Erin

I just wish that the doctors didn't tell us how much pain he was in. So anyways, school's back in session, which means Raycon is having their annual back to school sale. For a limited time only, go to buyraycon.com slash riddle today to get 20% off site-wide. Plus free shipping. That's buyraycon.com slash riddle to score 20% off buyraycon.com slash riddle. Oh, Adal.

00:41:10

JPC

Erin, it's wild that you said 20% off. Because I just got a text from his medical team and it looks like the cat costume.

Erin

The costume is 20% back on.

JPC

Yes. He's really buried himself in it.

Guest1

We miss you boy, get better soon. I miss you Adal. Hey Riddle Riddle.

JPC

I don't remember this. This is Trish Stratus theme song, Time to Rock and Roll 2018. Is she still wrestling?

Adal

She couldn't possibly be. What you just heard is Trish Stratus' entrance music. Let's go around and we'll name 90s WWE wrestlers until we run out. Okay. Stacey. I'm out. Dan and Ryan, did you watch any amount of wrestling? That was my arrow, yeah. I watched that a lot. Yeah, mine too.

Guest0

Yeah, it's a young kid before when it was WWF.

Adal

Yes, were you raw or nitro? Because for a while I was WCW all the way.

00:42:11

???

As WCW, which I, you know, I don't remember enough to remember if I was raw or nitro to be totally honest. One was Monday and one was Thursday, right?

Guest0

Monday Night Raw. Monday Night Raw.

JPC

I can't remember when Nitro was. Thursday was SmackDown at a certain point. So it's still WWF, yeah. Yeah, that's what I got into.

Adal

But Nitro was, or WCW was, what's that guy's name? Ed something? No. Eric Bischoff. Eric Bischoff. And then there was like NWO and they brought in like Hogan and Scott Hall and Kevin Nash and Goldberg, I think was WCW. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm sure they all had their toes and their spoons in many pots.

???

I wonder, because that's kind of deep in my subconscious, I spend a lot of time watching it, and I do wonder how it affects who I am now, because I don't watch it anymore, but it was there in a formative period of my life. Totally.

Guest0

When I was six, I was like, these guys are awesome and real, you know? I remember going and seeing Papa Shango, who's like a shaman type character and it's crazy. And he comes out and like, it's, yeah, it's wild.

00:43:13

???

Definitely Google Papa Shango. Yeah.

Adal

It is funny to see there's a there's such a joy in the disparity between like I can't think of a better example like someone like John Cena or like Randy Orton where it's like they're a wrestler and then there's also these people it's like Val Venus he's like a porn star vampire so that that gap between like I'm gonna try really hard to make this character stick and then someone who's just like I'm just strong.

???

I came back into wrestling and it was like that where like, cause yeah, for us it was all characters, it was Sting, it was Ultimate Warrior. And then all of a sudden it was just like, coming out is Mark.

Erin

And it was like, give it up for Big Tom. I think that that would be my persona is just being strong.

Adal

You did a good job, Erin. Oh, absolutely. Goldberg, his finishing move was like a football tackle. Great. It was so aggressive. But I just always loved that people would be like, I'm Cain. You'll never see my face. I'm the brother of the undertaker. I'm full of death and I can make fire appear. And I go through the ring and live in hell. And then, yeah, somebody comes out and they're just Joe Schmoe.

00:44:25

JPC

I think my favorite wrestling combination is when it's it's very obvious that you got a guy who or whoever who just isn't like doesn't know how to work the crowd and so then they just give them like another like littler guy to be like now you're the hype man of this guy and like this guy's whole thing is he's silent he's a killer this guy just likes to fight and get his body ruined but he needs somebody to be like He doesn't like to do all the parts where he's like dancing like a little ape and he's like, everybody, let's hear it for the killer!

Erin

And this guy's acceptable. It's like those alligators and birds that have that symbiotic growth.

Guest1

Yeah.

Adal

I'm not gonna hit you, you need to clean my teeth. It's exactly like that. Erin, if you could be any sort of wrestler, have any gimmick, would you be like, little compliments? Like, what would be your thing?

Erin

A little compliment? Am I? I'm sorry. Okay, hold on. I need to ask some questions about little compliments. Do I need them or do I give them?

Adal

It starts off one way and then it goes the other way.

Erin

If you don't get a compliment, you suplex somebody. I would do something about being sleepy or tired or having anxiety. She's sleepwalking! She's sleepwalking!

00:45:37

Adal

Your finishing move would be falling asleep on someone with your full weight or something.

Erin

Yeah, last time I went to a wrestling show, I kept involuntarily yelling, be careful!

Adal

Didn't you also just scream like I hope everyone just has fun or something?

Erin

Yeah, I am not fun to go to public things with. I'm not my favorite company.

???

You showed up to that one and they're like, here to wrestle? And you were like, yes.

???

For two, please? Yes, please.

JPC

Okay, a standard match. Wrestling. My wrestling persona would be the little hammer, and I would have like an eight inch, eight to ten inch hammer that I just try to sneak into every match I get. Every match they like pat you down.

Guest1

They go, do you have it?

JPC

Do you promise?

Guest0

He's not a good wrestler, but if he gets a good one with the hammer in there, it's over.

JPC

Okay, I do want to see a scene. I've decided a little sheet that says that I don't have the hammer on me. I love that at home.

Adal

I do want to see a scene. Ryan, you're almost like, what's his name? Jim Ross? Is that his name? Or Jim Ross? Or Mean Jean. So you're basically like one of those announcers and you're introducing two new wrestlers who are about to face off, which will be Dan and JPC. Dan and JPC in turn, you will introduce your sort of character and gimmick to Ryan. Gotcha. Great.

00:46:54

Guest0

All right folks, here they come. It's the next two wrestlers. They are insane. They hate each other and they are both steaming to get out here. Let's bring out the first guy, Normal Greg. Wearing a shirt and jeans. Got normal sneakers on. I'm Normal Greg. Oh my god, he's walking at normal pace. No rush, but can't be too slow. I'm Normal Greg. My girlfriend's name is Sarah.

JPC

My mom's name is Patty. Normal Greg gets into the ring. He stands on the second turnbuckle, notices that, like, one of his shirts, he, like, missed a button, did that thing where he skipped a button, so he has to, like, unbutton two buttons and then, like, rebutten up his shirt.

Guest0

He's clearly off! It's driving him nuts! He's gotta fix his shirt before the match! Oh! And here he comes! Here's the next guy!

???

The Footlong! Oh, he's slithering down the ramp. I'd rather be at Subway, the freshest restaurant you could get.

00:48:10

JPC

You don't think I'd rather be at Subway as well? It's my lunch break! And I'm gonna break every bone in your body, Footlong. Okay, please don't.

Guest0

Folks, we gotta see, is this guy gonna eat the sandwich, or is this sandwich gonna eat this guy?

JPC

You think you're going to try to get my eyes on shirt all dirty with your meatball sauce. Yeah, you want me toasted or regular.

Guest0

Sounded like you only said the first half of that sentence there.

JPC

By the time I'm done with you, it's not going to matter if you're toasted or regular, because you're going to be half on my shirt, half on my bed.

???

These guys both remind me of my life.

Guest0

Sounds like this guy might want to fuck the sandwich. Hold up, no, I just, no, no. Why are you going to put them on your bed? Nobody eats in bed. You're not, that's not normal. I think a lot of, who here eats in their bed?

00:49:16

???

Silence. Oh, one guy.

JPC

Who is that?

Adal

No, I'm the smoke alarm. I'm the smoke alarm.

JPC

Bring the lights up. No, no.

Adal

Bring the lights up. Bring the lights up. That guy.

???

We gotta get out of here.

JPC

We gotta get out of here.

???

There's a smoke alarm. We have to be incredibly safe. I'm gonna take my suit off. Everybody knows it's no fun.

Guest0

You misunderstood. It's me and the rafters. Mr. Smoke Alarm.

???

He's coming down from the rafters. The smoke alarm's coming down from the rafters.

Guest0

Oh, my batteries fell out.

???

Okay, I'm humiliated because I broke character. I didn't know that this was gonna be... I watch that.

???

I'm humiliated.

Adal

Does anybody know the term when you when you quote-unquote break is like breaking kayfabe? In wrestling.

Guest1

Yeah.

Adal

Why what is kayfabe? Is that like Kevin Canonical's brother? Kay Fabulous. Does that stand for like Canonical Fabulous or something?

00:50:18

Erin

But Canonical starts with a C. I know the sound of someone avoiding riddles when I hear it. No, no, no.

Adal

Alright, we'll do another riddle here. Okay. The hospital had a firm rule that all televisions must be turned off by 10 p.m. each and every evening. On Saturday evening, March 27, 2025, 17 patients were sitting and watching television at 11.15 p.m. How is this possible?

JPC

Is this like a time something? Is this like daylight savings time?

Adal

Good guess, but that is incorrect.

JPC

Is this leap year? The date matters, right? So it's either leap year or a time zone or something.

Erin

I will tell you outright. Is this Amy Adams movie leap year? Yes. The what movie? Amy Adams, Peter Romcom called leap year.

00:51:23

???

They made an exception because the Amy Adams movie was on.

Erin

Yeah.

???

I almost said warden. What do you call a hospital?

JPC

Unfortunately, it is also a warden. Oh, no. They pulled double duty in that regard.

Adal

I will say outright that the date does not matter.

Guest0

Does the 17 people watching it matter?

Adal

So hospitals like no TV after 10 p.m., hard and fast rule, very strict. But on that date, 17 patients were sitting and watching television at 11.15, which is an hour and 15 minutes after the designated turn off time. Yeah. How is this possible?

JPC

If the date doesn't matter, why did I get into a big fight about ruining it?

Guest0

Did whoever disciplines them die or something?

Adal

That is a good, uh, that's a good guess, but that is not, uh, unfortunately not the answer here.

JPC

Did whoever's in charge just decide not to be such a fuckin' stickler and, like, let him finish whatever the fuck they're watching? Like, it's 15 minutes, who cares?

Adal

Wait, did you say the warden was stiffler?

00:52:25

JPC

I did.

Adal

Cause that is incorrect. I did say the warden was stiffler. You watch TV, I fuck your moms. Yeah, I don't know.

JPC

So it's not, oh, is this a hospital on an airplane and they crossed over some sort of time zone at the airplane hospital?

Adal

No, time zones unfortunately do not come into play.

Erin

Airplane hospital is for sure going to be a TV show by the end of the episode.

Adal

Is there a doctor on the plane? No? Well then you gotta go to the airplane hospital.

JPC

Is there a doctor on the plane? Always. Airplane hospital. I don't have a TV show. That seems like a little forte TV show.

Erin

No, I wanted Ernest. I want a Grey's Anatomy style. He's dead, Erin.

JPC

I would love it if Ernest goes down there.

Guest0

Can we get another goddamn doctor on the plane?

Adal

High drama, high drama. I will say that this answer is pretty unique in terms of the answers we've had on this podcast. This was a surprising answer to me.

00:53:25

JPC

And you said it was on a specific day and a specific year and that does not matter at all?

Adal

Does not matter. So hospital says TV must be turned off by 10 p.m. every day on Saturday evening on that date. 17 patients at the hospital, at that same hospital, were sitting and watching television at 11.15 p.m. How is it possible? And I will say this answer is going to blow your brains wide open, but it's also pretty obvious.

JPC

Was the television just not on?

Adal

So this wasn't a one floor with a cuckoo's nest situation.

JPC

They were all just sitting there watching an empty television that was like unplugged.

Adal

The nurse turned off the baseball game and then Jack Nicholson just sort of read it.

???

Is there an amount of people watching relevant to the answer? 17? No. Okay, so why is any of these details just to throw us off? Is it because it was no longer a hospital? That's a good guess. Wow, that's a really good guess.

Adal

That is incorrect.

Guest0

That's a really good guess. Were they in the lobby instead of their rooms?

00:54:27

Adal

I gotta say all these answers you're tossing out are technically correct and better than the real answer. Okay.

Erin

The doctors are watching?

Adal

That's even better.

Erin

Is it, oh, they're watching a surgery or something?

Guest0

The security is watching all the TVs in the security place.

Erin

That's a really good answer.

Adal

Truly, we have over-solved this question, but that is not what's right in here.

JPC

The hospital's on lockdown because a wild, some sort of lynx or big cat has got into the hospital and they're stuck in the TV room watching it.

Adal

Well, we can't say that in a hospital because that's what you say for defibrillators.

JPC

I'm just going to say this, I could be wrong, I'm going to say bang bang shrimp cheesecake. That is closer. I'm closer.

Adal

So think, I mean, this answer is going to infuriate most of you, or if not all of you. Think of like Occam's razor. A simplest answer is usually the right answer. They broke the rules. Bingo bingo hatata. Ding ding ding ding. The patience broke the rules. We've never had a riddle. I don't think, to my recollection, where the answer is just like, they just fucking did it.

00:55:37

Guest0

Yeah, I don't think that's a riddle.

Adal

No, it's not.

Guest0

It's for sure not. I think it's like an equation that doesn't equal itself. You know what I mean?

Adal

It's almost like there's some joke or story or parable or something where it's like a man is on top of Mount Everest and he has the full gear, he has an oxygen tank, his skin is blue, his fingers are black because they're about to fall off, he climbed for two months, he finally made it to the summit, and as he's up there, there's a man and a woman with no gear, they're wearing shorts and flip-flops, no oxygen, they look totally healthy and they're having a picnic, how is it possible? And the answer is just they didn't know they couldn't not do that.

???

it's like the biggest fuck you in history of like oh because they're ignorant to how difficult it is they just did it that makes no sense yeah oh I see it's like I hate that's like a Tony Robbins type thing where it's yeah yeah but but really what what what am I learning here that you can climb Mount Everest if you dumb

JPC

And Dan says that at the seminar and he's sitting next to a guy who's like writing everything down. He's like, this is gonna change my life. Thank you, Tony. I do want to see a scene.

00:56:46

Adal

Oh, go ahead.

Guest0

Oh, sorry. Well, I was gonna say Dan one time went to a Tony Robbins seminar and they actually started listening to Dan instead because his voice is more booming and cooler.

Adal

Dan's taller and his voice is deeper.

Guest0

And he's being even ruder to me. If this guy's got a cold plunge pool, I'm all in.

Erin

Adal, can I see a scene?

Guest0

Yeah, Erin.

Erin

Awesome, thank you. I'd like to see a scene. Adal, Ryan, and Dan are all climbing Mount Everest, and you're all kind of wishing that you weren't there, but no one wants to be the first one to say, like, can we turn back?

Adal

Quick break, quick break. Of course.

Guest0

Oh God. God, the view appears incredible, isn't it?

Adal

Yeah the air is really it's really thin up here but the view is yeah yeah I just immediately feel like man I get it yeah you know I got it I get it yeah I feel like the the view from here and the view from the summit have to be pretty identical I'm up high you know yeah did we get a picture from up here Let's take a selfie. Let's take a selfie. Let me just put my, I'll put my finger up to my temples and blink my eyes and that's a fun little, fun little uncle move that suggested that I took a mental picture and that should suffice.

00:58:03

Guest0

I'm just gonna take a selfie here and whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, who

???

Do you need help down? Do you need help down? We should all help him down.

Guest0

No, no. I can keep going unless you guys want to go back.

Adal

I don't want to go back. Oh, I dropped my phone. Let me get out of the case and I dropped my phone. Oh, shoot.

Guest0

I'm seeing it go all the way down the hill. Maybe we can save it.

Adal

The hill? You have so much confidence in tackling this. We should keep going then. If this is a hill to you, we should keep going, Philip. Shoot. You're right.

???

Shoot. Here's what I think. Here's what I think. We've all come here to overcome some sort of thing. Life trauma, whatever.

Adal

And let's go through each person's thing. Okay. Mine is that unwittingly I matched with my cousin on Bumble and we did kiss. Did was the date unwitting? Huh? Was the date unwitting or just the match? The match. I didn't... she looked different.

00:59:13

???

But then when you were on the date you realized it was a cousin but you just you still kiss?

Adal

Yeah well we find out we were cousins and then just to kind of close out the night I was like well we should still kiss so... Well you have to be polite. You have to be polite. You have to be polite, yeah.

Guest0

I want to be done with climbing. Sorry with climbing Slowly, let's go fast.

???

I feel like I have kind of overcome my demons here. I feel like maybe I'll set up here, and if you guys need a base camp, it might be nice for me to have it set up here, which is almost scarier, because I'll be alone right here, you know what I mean? It's almost scarier.

Adal

That is scary. Oh yeah, instead of being alone, Phillip, we should stay with him.

Guest0

We should all, we should all be base camp. Yes, yes. Also, my thing is heights, and so I feel like we are pretty high. My thing's heights too. I also have heights. I'm good. What if, what about this? Just go back, and we Photoshop us at the top.

Adal

I mean I would not be mad at that because I just realized I'm wearing ankle socks of all the times to pack ankle socks. Oh my god. And you're wearing high boots. Yeah, so I'm not feeling great. I would be I'd be up for Photoshop. I think that's fun. Okay.

01:00:28

???

Yeah, that's great. And you know what I just realized? I left my wife and family and didn't tell them we would be doing this.

Adal

We gotta go back. Oh, we gotta go back for Corey's family.

???

Which might be my subconscious trauma. I thought my trauma was my car died, but I think there's a thing with my family I'm not dealing with.

Adal

Well, did you get over the car thing? Yeah, did you get over the... Do you want to talk about it? What kind of car?

???

It was... It was the... Toyota Tacoma.

JPC

Oh. Hey Mommy, hey Mommy, that man is back. The man from the picture is back, Mommy.

Erin

Lock the door.

JPC

Mommy, he looks like he's cold outside.

Erin

No, it just locked the door.

JPC

But he's from the picture, Mommy, the picture on the fridge.

Adal

Corey, I wish you would have told us that your family lives on the top of Mount Everest. Yeah, dude, they could've let us in at what? You really fucked our way into this Photoshop.

???

I feel like you're not allowed to say your wife is crazy, but I went along with a pretty crazy idea here.

01:01:35

Guest0

I feel like you're not allowed to.

JPC

If we look at it to the top about Everest, but I don't want to get cancelled.

???

Have you guys ever overcome anything? Because I have like no interest, you know, where someone's like, you know what, I got to go cross country by myself and just be alone or I got to climb a mountain or I got to do a marathon. I've never done any of those things. Have any of you all?

JPC

Not like something to overcome something like not like a trip to like, oh I have to like go here to clear my mind, but I used to do I've been sober now for almost nine years, but I used to do a lot of psychedelics and it was like every two months like clockwork I would be like I got to do mushrooms and just figure out like where I'm at like just like I Get a better sense of where I'm at and where I'm going. And I gotta say, that really did help me. When I was younger, that was very, it was a very clear experience for me.

01:02:38

???

That's awesome. Ryan and I were just on a separate podcast talking about that, because I just watched Fantastic Fungi, that Netflix movie about my parents. Oh, I don't know that one. I mean, I don't want you to relapse, so maybe you don't watch it. It's all about how you should do that.

Adal

There's a new one called like... Maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I thought it was a longer title of like, open up your mind or something. It's like a brand new one about how psychedelics actually help you.

Guest0

How to change your mind? How to change your mind.

Adal

That's it. Thank you. Is that the same thing or that's two different things?

Guest0

No. That's based on like a Michael Pollan book, I think.

JPC

I, by the way, am a big fan of psychedelics and a big proponent of doing psychedelics. I don't need to do that anymore, but I do not regret for a second my experience with psychedelics.

Adal

I've had mushrooms seven or eight times and the first six or seven times were unbelievably wonderful. And then that last time I thought I was dying and I was real bad. I ended up in a bathtub almost calling my mom every five minutes to tell her goodbye. It was real bad.

01:03:45

Erin

Horrifying. It's all fun and games until you're looking at yourself in the mirror. Don't do that. That's my number one hot tip is you don't do that. Because you start melting into your mom's face and then your dad's face. I love that. And then you'll see your blood. Yeah, I lost it. You saw your blood? Yeah. Yeah. When you go, I was like, oh my God, there's just so much blood in my body. And then I was like, I am the most beautiful woman in the world. And then I blinked and I was like, I am a monster. So don't do that.

JPC

I did mushrooms with a guy one time and we had just done them. We had just ingested the mushrooms and I was like, this is gonna be fun, man. I'm looking forward to this. And he's like, yeah, I really need this. Cause I'm going through like, I was like, man, you have made the biggest mistake of your fucking life. I was like, you are going to have one of the worst times. And I knew as soon as he said he was like in a really bad place, I was like, this is a really bad idea. Yeah.

???

On the biggest mistake of my life now, because I'm fucking stuck with you, dude. Ruining my high.

Erin

Are you like, I have to run a marathon to prove something to myself kind of people?

01:04:48

Guest0

I don't think so.

???

Be nice to overcome something at some point, but yeah.

Guest0

I think I've like probably read too many self-help books thinking that I was like doing a good job at therapy. And so maybe like that as a mountain I've tried to climb or something. And I've since kind of slowed down or stopped on that, but yeah.

JPC

Dan, when you say it'd be nice to overcome something, what do you, what do you, is there like, what's an example of what that would be?

Adal

Like give yourself malaria and then figure it out?

JPC

Yeah, you know, any of the babies. Which don't do that because it's forever.

???

Uh, too late.

JPC

Uh, no.

???

Yeah, like something that's like, I would never, I love. Like traveling. I love going to Europe or whatever with friends. I would never do that alone. Our friend Gilly just did that and she like posted a bunch of videos of her like going on hikes with strangers, you know, and she went on like a guided tour with a bunch of people that was like a few days long. And I would never do that, but I think it would be like anything that's kind of uncomfortable, a nice learning experience as well. But I really prefer comfort. Sure.

01:06:01

Guest0

Oh, I think you go to Italy alone and just meet Italians. You'd have a fricking blast.

???

Yeah, but I'd spend so much of that time I bet texting my friends. Like when I go on like a little retreat, I spend my whole time on my phone like hitting people up.

Erin

That way when I was like 20, 21, I was very much like prove. I wanted to prove stuff to myself. Like I did a lot of solo traveling. I did a lot of like. Skydiving and bungee jumping and stuff that I'm scared of. But it didn't work really. It's sort of nice that you're like, oh yeah, I'm brave. But then I just don't think it proves as much to yourself as being consistent over time.

???

Well said.

Guest0

Totally. Doing one crazy thing does not make a new personality.

JPC

No, it just proves that I'm crazy. I just spent $1,800 to realize

Adal

I do really enjoy something I would recommend. I'm sure you guys have done this. I feel like just small road trips by yourself is very fun. Like if you go somewhere that's like two and a half hours away to some small town or something. Just windows down, Blair music or podcasts or something. I feel like that's... That always helps me scratch that itch, but I do prefer to have a companion while traveling, even if it's just one other person, to have like a shared experience of like, oh, I can anytime call them up and talk about it or be like, remember this or share photos or something. Because when you share, if you go solo and then share with other people, they don't have that investment in it. They'll be like, oh, neat or like, very cool. But they don't have the, you want that feeling of like, we did this together. I have a bond with someone. This is a strengthened moment.

01:07:39

Guest0

Yeah, that shared memory is nice.

JPC

Adal, when you said, I'm sure you guys have done this, what I thought you were going to say was, go to like Krispy Kreme or someplace that makes the donuts really hot and fresh, get a half dozen donuts glazed. As soon as they're hot and fresh, push them all down to the one big donut ball and eat that whole thing. And I was like, in my mind I was like, shagging it. That would be so cool to do. I would love to do that.

???

You thought that was exactly what he was going to say? You were like, oh, I know what he was doing.

JPC

I thought he was going to say something. When he said, I'm sure you guys have all done this, I thought he was going to say something equally as crazy as that.

Adal

We've all probably done this. Get yourself a belt, go into your closet. Do you guys familiar with David Carradine?

JPC

Oh, yeah. I'm familiar with almost like, I would say 95% of his story. I do not know how the last part of it ends. But yeah, I'm a huge Carradine fan.

Adal

Uh, well let's do, do we have time for one more? Let's do voicemails actually. Let's go into our voicemails.

JPC

Wait for the beep, hey Riddle Riddle, I wanna get the calls on the voicemail and I'll hit play. And I'll hit play.

01:08:47

Adal

Casey, do you have a voicemail pulled up for us please?

???

Hi Adal, I'm Erin, I'm JPC, I'm just calling to say hi. Uh, I love the show, I'm a patient, I listen to you all since I graduated high school in 2015, and I'm excited to have some input. My go-to right now is it's like a play no exit, but how is Riddle? It breaks the law on Thanksgiving because I wasn't able to be an expert at eating at a bowl. And I'm back in with the board shooting too. Come to high for everyone else. Love y'all.

Adal

Thank you a character from Bar City Blues. That was incredible. What a phenomenal message. I love that person's voice was so charming.

JPC

They said that they took an edible at Thanksgiving and we're listening to our podcast and started crying because they thought we were fighting. No, you misheard JPC.

Adal

He said he took an edible. Fuck it. I just forget it. Do you even know how to listen Adal?

01:09:49

JPC

What did I miss here? You're actively listening?

Guest0

Does anybody else feel like a piece of shit because that's all I see?

Adal

Bunch of number twos. Yeah.

Erin

That's the cutest saddest thing ever. It's like my podcast hosts are fighting. I actually I can't handle this.

JPC

I wonder if it was an episode where we were fighting.

Guest0

Uh, maybe. Do you guys ever fight real? You guys seem like you're good at play fighting, which makes me think you don't actually fight.

Adal

We're very good at passive aggressiveness.

Erin

We were mad at Adal once. It was a Halloween episode in 2018. We got actually mad at him and we kept it in the episode.

Adal

So I decided to end the Halloween episode and it's become a tradition that I'm sure everyone hates, but I read it Riddle at the very end and I said I'll give you the answer next year on Halloween and I think you both stopped the show and you're like we really we got to give the answer and I was like No, it'll be a fun little tradition. Cause it was like a, it was like a laffy taffy joke. It was like, what's a Dracula's favorite drink? Bloody Mary. You know, it was like that, that level of awful. So I was like, it's just a kid's joke.

01:10:53

Erin

You are rewriting history, sir. This is what happens when we met like, let men tell stories. Cause that is not what happened. So what happened was GPC interrupted you. And then you said, well then I'm just not going to read the Riddle to next year. And then I went, I didn't interrupt you though Adal, I didn't do it. And then you went, everyone's getting punished. And so I didn't do anything. You should have made JP C leave. I'm still mad about that. That was four years ago anyway.

JPC

I apologize. That was also back when we were like, oh, people really care that we say the answers to the riddles. And I think on an episode like three months ago, we just forgot to say the answer to a riddle. We did like a scene and we forgot to say an answer. And a bunch of people were like, hey, you guys didn't answer that riddle. We were like, I don't know. Fuck it. It doesn't matter. Like, who cares?

Adal

Casey, can we hear one more voicemail?

???

Hey Riddle Riddle. Looking for some advice. Don't know if this phone's gonna be an advice call, but I figured what the hell. I'm a fellow who just got laid off from a corporate job I didn't love so much and I'm trying to make the next step a little bit more worth having. I wonder if y'all got any kind of riddle-based advice or not. Alright, love the show.

01:12:01

Adal

Have a good one. All our listeners have the best TV show accents. It's like every voice man was like, Hey, y'all, I'm just at Cracker Barrel playing a game.

JPC

I do think that if you're looking for your next move, like, I don't know, maybe like a cartoon dog, just like voicing a cartoon dog in a big sandwich.

Guest0

Look at just Google voice acting.

Erin

Have you tried working at the Cheesecake Factory? It sounds like it's really easy.

Adal

And if you're not ready for that, what I would say is go travel by yourself. Take two weeks and just travel by yourself. Discover yourself. You can always leave us a voicemail at 1-805-Riddle1Empire today. So you can leave us a voicemail. You can also send us any sort of packages or letters or whatever you want to send us in the mail. You can send that to HeyRiddleRiddle at 6351 West Montrose Avenue, number 267, that's Chicago, Illinois, 60634. And I do want to thank, we did just have a meeting recently at my house where we opened up some of the packages. Thank you to Matthew W. for sending us a really fun board game, Cory W. for the stickers and a nice letter, Madeline from Portland sent us a very cool Tiki mug, JD for the Riddle book, and Lena for the wonderful hand-typed note. So thank you all for the mail. Oh cool.

01:13:20

Guest0

Now do you guys have like a registry?

???

Would love that.

Adal

Yes, and we have a honey fund.

Guest0

Still waiting for that gift of a thousand dollars cash. So I'm just saying, they were saying it before the episode started. I just wanted to plug for them.

JPC

Our registry is CreightonBarrell.com slash Hey Riddle Riddle if you want to buy us a big brass stove.

Adal

If you could buy us a smeg refrigerator, that would be nice.

Guest1

We're all going to split it.

Guest0

We're all going to take a different part of the smeg fridge. I was thinking of buying the podcast a nice, nice ironing board.

Erin

That's a little passive aggressive because you're telling us that our clothes are all wrinkly.

Adal

Slobs! Next week, treat our mailbox as if we are all getting married to each other. That's the level of thought that should go into it. Well, I think we've come to a close. Dan and Ryan, thank you so much for being on. You're absolutely two of our favorite people on Earth, let alone guests on this podcast. So thank you for doing this. Ryan, do you have anything to plug?

01:14:26

Guest0

Just the Mandog Pod that I do here with Dan, you know. You can find me personally online all over the place at Chosenberg. And then I guess Big Grande. Big Grande website. We got some new stuff coming out there hopefully soonish. So check out all of the stuff.

Adal

I gotta say, maybe my favorite podcast is specifically when you guys do the big check-in episodes. Those are my favorites.

Guest0

Oh, thank you. We just did one today.

JPC

And I love how you play the theme for the big show when you do your big check-ins as well.

Guest0

Whoa! The big check-in! Yes!

Adal

Yes, everyone do it. Dan, anything you'd like to plug?

???

Well, if you subscribe to the WWE Network, you can check out Camp WWE where I voiced the big show as a young counselor, or a young camper in a camp of young wrestlers. That, I don't know if it exists, but if it's still out there, that's where you can get it. And everything Ryan said, and then at Dan Lippert Cool is my social media.

01:15:29

Adal

Well I guess I ain't in cool news.

???

Yeah, I'm a big fan of Moriarty.

Adal

His review for Morbius was dead on.

Guest0

Oh my god.

???

Boyardee's Morbius. Man I used to read it in a cool all the time.

Adal

Every day of my life I used to read it and then I just got tired of it.

Guest0

I thought it was so important for a while.

Adal

Yeah. I had to know it. It felt like a little secret of like these people really get it and I was like this is exhausting. Ryan do you have anything to plug?

Guest0

Well I was just gonna add that Live On Set is sort of our newest big grande project that was a really fun improvised special that Dan put together and we all improvised in where we do improv and the suggestion is just the costumes and the set that we're on and none of us knew any of the details before and we do like a live improv show and it was a lot of fun so check that out on our website.

Erin

I don't know if this helps but my dad loved it. I sent it to him knowing he would love it and he thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever seen.

Adal

It definitely helps me. That feels great. Erin, anything you want to plug?

01:16:32

Erin

Just listen to Mandog Pod. It's been especially funny lately. I was on my walk listening to the recent Lauren Lapkis episode and I had to stop walking to laugh. So check it out.

Adal

Oh, thank you.

JPC

Do you see anything to put? It's actually a pretty serious condition. Erin can't laugh and walk, or she will explode. Let's not make light of it.

Erin

It's a confetti, so it's at least a little whimsical, but it's a problem.

JPC

Yeah, so again, I'll see my plug starter. A five-star review if you want to get your five-star review featured on the show. Just leave it and then you could get it picked. This one is from I'm trapped in this review, says JPC please help me. I thought I would answer the call for a fun and funny five-star review for JPC to read at the end of the show, but suddenly my screen started flashing and I found myself trapped inside this review. There seems to be nothing to help me keep track of the passing days. No sun to warm my frigid heart. I've worked tirelessly to edge this very message to the stark plane of existence in which I am bound. The only thing keeping me alive is the hope that these scribblings of a madman will one day reach the podcast and release me into the void. Five stars, incredible podcast. Thank you so much for leaving it. Adal, anything that you want to give a hug?

01:17:35

Adal

Yes, thank you so much. I have a few things. The other night I watched, I must have been in the perfect mood for it. I watched last night in Soho, the movie, the Edgar Wright movie. And for whatever reason, it hit me so hard and I was swooning over this movie. I thought it was just fantastic. I might rewatch it and feel I was way off, but I really enjoyed it in the moment, so I recommend that. Also, I had some friends over the other night and we played lovers in a dangerous space time.

JPC

Lovers in a dangerous space time.

Adal

It's on Switch, but I don't know what else it is on. It's some of the most fun I've ever had playing a game. It's kind of like that old iPhone game space team where you kind of have to work in unison to kind of defeat what's coming at you. It's just fantastic. I highly recommend that. And then the last thing I'll say, and then I'll shut up, is I really like Ryan's idea of making the most out of this give me something, make it real, else forget about it. So use hashtag forgetaboutit and send us your best Santana riffs. It could be give me your butt, make it wet or else forget about it. It could be... Ew, what?

01:18:36

Erin

Have it not be that.

Adal

Yeah, we've already used that one.

JPC

We've already used that one so we don't want to get that one a bunch of times, basically.

Adal

But use hashtag forgetaboutit and we'd love to read some of these Carlos Santana riffs you have.

???

And of course if you'd like to riff in a more stereotypically East Coast Italian, it would be forgetaboutit. Give me your god, make a ghoul, or else forget about it. We'll be searching both hashtags, so use the one that speaks to you.

Guest0

Give me your god, make a ghoul, or else forget about it.

Erin

That is very good. I actually think that we got the best one, so ignore Adal, we're not doing that anymore.

JPC

Can the episode title be give me some god, make a ghoul?

Adal

Uh, Erin, one thing we should not forget about is a little marble in the night sky called Jupiter. Bye forever. Casey, do you know how long we've been going? 35 minutes. About 35? Perfect.

01:20:03

Guest0

I have a hard out in 40 seconds. Well, goodbye. I told you 6.15.

???

That was a head gum podcast.