This is a HeadGum podcast.
00:00:02
Erin
This is a HeadGum podcast.
Adal
Knock knock. Who's there? Sorry, I'm just a little traveler through the woods and I would like to come upon your house and use your beds in each of the woods.
Erin
Please don't come upon our house.
JPC
I'd never apologize for being a little traveler.
Erin
What does the sign say?
Adal
The sign says no solicitors. It says please don't come upon our house.
Erin
There's too much come on our house already.
Adal
Oh yeah, what happened here?
00:01:03
JPC
So we got basically, I mean this sucks, but you're familiar with like gingerbread houses, right? And how the glue is like the icing. Hold on, hold on. Yes.
???
Great.
JPC
So we got sold this bill of goods. Basically, this shoddy contractor doesn't know how to make a gingerbread house. And it's basically, the whole place is basically glued together with this stuff.
Erin
Blah blah blah, we got horny, blah blah blah, next thing you know, blah blah blah, tail's on time.
JPC
Not our fault, we just bought a house. It's expected that. Come in weary traveler.
Adal
I'm sorry mama bear. Your blah blah blahs weren't really doing any heavy lifting. It was as if I said my name is blah blah blah Garrett blah blah blah. I'm six foot blah blah blah two.
Erin
Thank you for calling out for all your boring parts of your story. I really appreciate that.
JPC
Garrett is it?
Adal
Yes, Garrett. How dare you call her mama bear? Oh, I'm sorry. How did you even know this? Did you go through our mail? I'm reading her name tag. It says Mama Bee. I assume the bee was for bear.
Erin
Look, name tag.
00:02:03
JPC
And she works at Mama Bee's.
Adal
Yeah. Oh, what is Mama Bee's? Is that a pastry shop?
Erin
Blah, blah, blah. It's a place where we eat bears. Blah, blah, blah.
Adal
You eat bears?
Erin
Do you need something? Do you need something?
Adal
Yes, I need to sleep in the bed and eat and suck your porridge.
Erin
All right. Well, all we have is riddles. Is that okay?
JPC
Okay, nevermind, bye!
Erin
Adal, a real dick was at the door. His name was Garrett and he was five foot eleven.
Adal
Are you sure it's five foot eleven?
Erin
Yeah, he didn't say six two, he's more five foot eleven.
Adal
Okay, well, since I am busted and you read my nametag, I am Adal Rifai. I'm JPC.
Erin
And I'm Erin Keif.
Adal
And welcome once again to your favorite travelers for the week. Yes, this is for your week. We do not recommend you binge more than one episode a week.
JPC
If you do, we cannot be responsible for side effects such as... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... ...hair growth... Speaking of voyeurism, we have a very special guest today on the show. Please welcome a very dear, near and dear friend of mine, my co-host with the mohost on the Bill Budds Popcast. Bill Budds. That's a different Popcast on one of the different Johnny. This is Johnny O'Mara.
00:03:36
???
Johnny, welcome to April 11th.
Johnny
Hello. Thank you so much for having me. It was so challenging to keep quiet during that introduction while I was eating all of that cum while I was waiting outside.
Erin
Well, I appreciate it.
Johnny
Too hot.
JPC
Again, don't eat at all. We have a whole hour to do.
Johnny
Well, the door was just stuck shut. I had to eat enough to get in. That's true.
JPC
Just eat enough to get in. Fair enough.
Johnny
Gotta get that billboard, huh?
JPC
Well, Johnny, welcome to the show. Adal and Erin both said, why haven't you ever had Johnny on the show? And I said, you know what? I guess I forgot to ask.
Johnny
Which is what you want to hear. Keep not replying to my emails. I'm always emailing you asking to be on the show.
Erin
This is one of the most refreshing episodes to record because this is the first time we haven't had to explain JPC to anybody. Normally you have to be like, okay, so he seems like he's a chaotic evil, but he's more like a good neutral. It's very confusing.
00:04:40
JPC
And Erin, correct me if I'm wrong, you'll still have to apologize for me at the end of the episode.
Erin
Oh, of course.
JPC
Okay.
Erin
It wouldn't be you if I didn't.
Adal
Yeah, sign a waiver. Johnny, what is your, we know your relationship with JPC. What is your relationship with riddles and puzzles?
Johnny
So I, growing up, I often at the Scholastic Book Fair would get a riddle book. It was like a riddle book, a joke book, and a book of Garfield comics. And those were like the three things. Yeah, we call that the Holy Trinity.
Erin
The three pillars of comedy.
Johnny
And also a book about Michael Jordan's life. So I would often be sort of sat in the corner in class reading riddles. And they're not riddles, but it's riddle adjacent, I feel like, but I've always been a big fan of just trivia and trivial pursuit, which is riddles that you memorize.
JPC
Yeah, it's really, I guess, riddles that you memorize is a good way to say that because it is like, it's facts, right? I think trivia has more facts and riddles has more tricks. Yeah.
00:05:52
Erin
Since you're like a memorizing facts person, would you ever do like a Jeopardy? Or are you like a bar trivia guy? Where do you shine?
Johnny
I like to watch Jeopardy and I feel like I do well at home, you know, an armchair Jeopardy contestant. I feel like I do pretty well. I do like bar trivia, but I haven't been to a bar in, you know, two years. Right. Sure.
Adal
I equate, I like trivia, but to me it's frustrating because I equate it to riddles. Riddles and puzzles or like, little thinking problems are like cooking. Where it's like, even if you don't know exactly what you're doing, you can kind of figure it out, you can kind of piece something together, a little dash here and there, and eventually you have something edible. Trivia to me is like baking, where it's like if you don't know what you're doing, There's no way what's coming out of the oven is edible. It's pure science. There's no sort of like, let me try this while I'm baking. Let me add two cups of olive oil. You're going to ruin whatever's cooking. So to me, it's the difference between cooking and baking.
00:06:52
JPC
And Johnny, you bake as well, right?
Johnny
I do. I do. And I memorize every single ingredient. Ask me an ingredient.
JPC
What is butter? Yup, you're that one. The holy trifecta. Adal, just once I would love for you when you're doing an analogy that is cooking and baking for you to describe cooking and be like, and then trivia is like picking a shit. You just want to get it over with.
Johnny
You just have to be pretty exact, though, or else it is bad.
JPC
Yeah, trust me. I'm in It's Bad three times a day, guys, so I know a little something about trivia. Well, Johnny, on the show, Hey Riddle, I forgot we added that second one in about 2019, we really like to just get into it. We don't really love to stand on ceremony, we like to get into these riddles, and we like to encourage our guests to do their best. Now, usually the guests are much better than us, the hosts, because our brains are completely broken, so it's really, really nice to just get a fresh brain in here. But we're going to start off with some I want to see some easier riddles, like warm up riddles. These are just to get kind of the brain juices flowing a little bit. So here's a riddle submitted by Maggie from Philadelphia. Thank you so much Maggie. And Maggie starts the email, hey there Adal. Well, Maggie you fucked up because it isn't Adal. It's JPC. So Maggie writes, here's a riddle I was given when I was in seventh grade during our Project Awareness class, my school's version of gifted and talented. Weird name, huh? What do you guys think? Weird name?
00:08:32
Adal
Project Awareness? That sounds like an X-Men initiative. It sounds like Charlie Xavier. Kind of piece to cobble together the 10 best, like, young mutants.
Erin
Well, I would like to see a scene. Of course. Uh, JPC and Johnny, you guys are two superheroes and you're coming together to create a superhero school and it becomes very clear that one of you wants to use it for good and one of you wants to use it for evil.
JPC
Number one, no homework. Come on, I mean everybody, they, look, everybody hates homework, right? Why are we making these kids do homework?
Johnny
What else are they gonna do to fill their time?
JPC
I mean... We gotta keep these kids busy. We have, well, design a whole curriculum. We can, this whole, this is a mansion, okay? We can come up with a bunch of different stuff to do in this mansion.
Johnny
Yeah, but if they live in the mansion, that automatically makes it homework.
JPC
Fuck. Because they're, because it'll be their home. And they'll be working at home. Okay. Okay, so you said it. Nobody could live in the mansion. It's Tintz outside the... We'll get Tintz, we'll get Tintz. That's your home. So we got mutants, mutant kids living in Tintz, all the grounds. Excuse me, Cornboy here, reporting for duty. Cornboy, clean this place up. We hired you as a janitor two weeks ago. The kids are going to be here any minute.
00:10:01
Adal
I thought that was a joke. I'm really supposed to just clean. Yeah. I'm sorry. Okay.
JPC
Hold on, Cornboy, what did you think was gonna happen? You thought you were gonna, what, be a student here? Yes, learn to be a superhero.
Johnny
Fight crime, fight sentinels. What does that even entail? Okay, so my corn powers are every July I grow eight inches. Then I shed my husk and I can take, huh? Tall? I shed my husk and I can use my kernels to throw at people and they explode.
JPC
The kernels are the people. You know you could just buy corn.
???
I could just buy corn.
00:11:02
Adal
I'm fine. I'll get back to cleaning, sirs. My apologies.
Johnny
What do you mean, back to cleaning?
JPC
This whole place hasn't been cleaned once, so I'm not paying you for the two weeks you weren't here.
Adal
Goddamn it.
JPC
Okay, that didn't explode. Goddamn it. Are you not in season yet? Are your powers seasonal? No, I think that people have to be hot enough.
Johnny
Oh, so there are like four dudes then. That's it. Well, it's like popcorn. They explode. Well, I get it. I'm just saying there are like four dudes hot enough.
JPC
Yeah.
Johnny
Four fire bodies or whatever.
JPC
Wait, hold on. You think that he's not hot enough? My associate here, Dr. Very Good Body. I'm sorry, he was saying my name, please. My superhero name is just Horny. This is Dr. Very Good Body, I'm Horny.
Johnny
Please, Dr. Very Good Body is my father. Same.
00:12:03
Erin
Oh, perfect. Yeah, that's one way to create a super villain. Tell him that he's a janitor. And his powers are lame.
JPC
I would love to go up against a supervillain that throws little pieces of cord at me.
Erin
Yeah, I think I could take them.
JPC
That's a walk in the park. Yeah, I think project awareness sounds fake, but all school is fake. So how about that Maggie from Philadelphia?
Adal
I have to assume Cornboy's catchphrase would be like, it's cobbering time?
Erin
Let's just get a pen and paper and we'll find the yellow guy. I have nothing but faith in you, Adal.
JPC
Niblets Workshop this. Okay, nine cats are walking on a tall fence. Fear the ear? Sorry, I'm sorry. I promise you we have to stop thinking about corn stuff. Here's the riddle. Nine cats are walking on a tall fence. One falls, they all die.
Adal
Why? Their tails were tied together.
Johnny
Well, yeah, it was a cat centipede.
00:13:04
JPC
Please, a cat king.
Erin
It was an electric fence.
JPC
Erin, explain.
Erin
I won't and I can't. Goodbye. He takes a suitcase off the shelf, packs suitcase, leaves, gets on an old timey train. The bravest girl at school.
JPC
No, it was not an electric fence, Erin. That is an excellent guess we have to assume. One cat falls off the... Nine cats are walking on a tall fence. One falls, they all die. Why?
Adal
Because a cat only has nine lives.
JPC
That's a really great thing to say.
Adal
Yeah, don't ask me to back this up.
JPC
Well, it doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. It's like another... But why would they say nine?
Adal
Nine's a very specific number in cat language.
JPC
Nine, I think nine is a very specific number, and I think it's a red herring here. I think it's to throw you off, to make you think nine loves.
Adal
Red herring would be a tabby, yeah. Is it something where it's like the one fell off and like landed on the junkyard dog, and then when he woke up he like ate them all or something?
00:14:10
JPC
It's something like that. I want to encourage my friend and I want him to think he's doing a good job. It's nothing like that.
Johnny
When it says fell off, do they mean? Yeah, exactly. We all gravitated towards physically falling off the fence.
JPC
Great question. It is physically falling off the fence. I do love the idea of this alcoholic cat.
Erin
There is a screenplay there. I will figure it out later along with the core entries. Johnny, are you a cat person or a dog person?
Johnny
I'm a big time cat person. Yes, finally. Another cat cell. Feline-ally.
Erin
A cat cell?
Adal
Yeah, that's what cat people call each other.
Erin
A cat cell. I haven't been in the culture in a while, so I didn't realize I had changed the cat, though.
JPC
Yeah, I knew Johnny was a big cat person, so I did read a riddle where nine cats die at the beginning of a riddle.
00:15:11
Adal
One falls off, the other nine. Was there ten total? Or did there nine total?
JPC
Nine total. Nine total. Nine total. Here's the thing. I think that you have to be a little lenient with your definition of what is a cat. There are some debates over if this is one cat or if this is nine cats.
Adal
Okay, so the other eight cats were inside this pregnant mommy's belly.
JPC
Adal, that is absolutely correct. You've nailed it. Didn't want to be right on that one.
Erin
This is just a sad story. This is just a really sad story.
Adal
I want to see a scene.
JPC
Wait, wait, Maggie does right. Mama Cat is pregnant with eight kittens and when she falls off the fence and dies, so did her babies. Super sad, especially because cats are supposed to always land on their feet. Hey BC, we have a guest.
Erin
We have a guest here.
JPC
Look, Maggie is from Philadelphia. That's gotta be the excuse. Those people threw batteries at their own team.
00:16:11
Erin
I want to see a scene.
Adal
The three of you are little cats inside your pregnant mother's tummy and the three of you are just kind of like talking big about when you were finally born all the big things you're gonna kind of accomplish and do.
JPC
What are you guys gonna do when you get out?
Erin
I'm gonna see my girl. I'm gonna finally ask her to marry me.
Johnny
Good day, Lucky. I didn't know you had a girl back home.
Erin
Yeah, I got a girl out there. I can't wait to see her. Oh man, I can't wait.
JPC
What about you guys? Tell us about her, Lucky. Tell us about her.
Erin
Oh man, where to begin? The legs. Legs shaped like, ooh, what a cat leg shaped like. Yeah, like chicken bones. A tail, long as a tail. Spur, soft as fur, and a little kitty nose as cold as ice. You guys are going to love her.
00:17:16
JPC
Ooh, Lucky, she sounds great.
Erin
Yeah, what are you guys going to do when we finally get out?
Johnny
I'm going to go back to school.
Erin
Wow! What are you going to study?
Johnny
What are you going to study, Jacko? I'm going to finally learn how to be a mechanic.
Erin
Incredible, Jacko. Your dream. You love cars, Jacko.
JPC
Yeah, Jacko, nothing you like better than... That's why we call you Jacko, because you jack up those cars and you fix them.
Johnny
Yeah, and I... Oh, when it's cold out and those engines are hot, you know I love to crawl under that hood.
JPC
Careful, Jacko. Careful. That's how your dad went.
Johnny
Yeah, well, I ain't nothing like my dad.
JPC
Ow, Jacko. Let me go.
Johnny
Leave him alone, Jacko. You take it back.
Erin
You take it back. I takes it back. I takes it back. All right. What about you, Dreamer? What do you want to do when you get out of here? Me?
JPC
It's stupid. It's nothing. Forget about it. No, tell us. Okay. I'm gonna kill James Gordon.
00:18:20
Erin
The movie he made about us?
JPC
Because of the movie he made about us. I think what he did to cats is a travesty, so I'm gonna kill that dude. Why stop at James Gordon?
Erin
Kill the whole cast.
JPC
No, the blame lies solely with Corden. Corden did what he did.
Adal
Commissioner Corden. Commissioner Corden. Can you imagine James Corden as Batman, as the mayor of, uh, Commissioner of, uh, what's the... Gotham City. Never mind, guys, never mind.
JPC
Adal, how dare you speak such an evil into the universe, because Hollywood is Linus Omega. They will cast him as Commissioner Corden.
Erin
Sorry, Adal is waist deep in corn catchphrases.
Adal
I was trying to think of more corn catchphrases while also describing the scenario and it broke my brain.
JPC
You all did very well with that very sad, very warm up riddle, so let's move into something I will say probably a little bit difficult, more difficult. This riddle comes from Nicola. Nicola writes, hey there Adal, JPC, and Erin. Yeah, maybe we won't know.
00:19:31
Erin
Just ignore Johnny there, a little rude, but okay.
JPC
Yeah, it didn't. Anything about Johnny? Okay. Nicola writes, fuck you, Thomas Edison. So Adal, you might be right. Nicola writes when I was little I was pretty much obsessed with riddles. I'd run around with my favorite puzzle book challenging every one of the vicinity to a game of Wit a la The Hobbit. Looking back I completely understand why my mother sent me to play outside all of the time. Yes! Anyway, their favorite riddles are the ones that read like poems and so... They have included a couple poem riddles for us to read today.
Adal
Oh, I'm sorry. No need. The answers will be an egg, a cloud, and your shadow.
Erin
Oh, Adal, we've all said shadow. How about I'm stalking you? I'm like stalking you. Does that work?
Adal
Well, we're in the same room. Any literary poem riddle is always an egg, a cloud, or a shadow.
JPC
I have a question for you, smart guy. What does being right do for you? Does it stop the fun? Because I can't read the riddles if you're right.
00:20:33
Erin
You're making them a smug bug. Nothing's more fun than being a smug bug. You get to say, I told you so.
Adal
It takes off my headphones, turns off my microphone, runs up those steps in Philadelphia, pumps my arms in the air.
JPC
Gets punched by a racist. I'm just kidding. Philadelphia, you probably have just as many racists as anyone else. It's probably an even, what do we want to say, 20%? Probably. Okay, so here are a couple, here's the first of these poem rentals. I am the chosen weapon of the warrior on high. Knocked with water arrows, I let the volley fly. When the battle's over, should I choose to show my face, I'll linger for a moment, then fade without a trace. What am I? Medusa Bridge. Okay.
Adal
Some sort of drawbridge with Medusa's face on it.
JPC
Oh, okay. Interesting. A drawbridge with Medusa's face on it. Okay. Yeah. No. I think it's very straightforward. Yeah, it's very straightforward.
00:21:39
Adal
I had to ask. I'm sorry. I had to.
JPC
That was a question? Okay. Yeah. Would you like to share your work on that one, Counselor? It said... Did it say knocked with arrows? Knocked with water arrows. I love the Bali fly.
Adal
Water arrows. What are water arrows?
JPC
Well, it immediately makes me think of Ocarina of Time. Yes, and the water levels.
Adal
Can I just say, any video game, the water levels are the worst levels. Just creators out there, stop making water levels. I've never had a fun one.
JPC
The water level on Ocarina of Time is like our whole show. Yes.
Erin
Jolly Roger's Lagoon in Banjo-Tooie is unplayable. If you can't, if it's not easy to swim in your game, don't have a water level.
JPC
Yeah. That's a very good, that's a very good point.
Erin
Can I say something about water levels though?
JPC
Sure.
Erin
Best music. Very good music.
Adal
That is true. Hold on, let me think of the... Yeah, a little bubble.
Johnny
It's called bubble music and it's amazing. But you also get the stressful sonic music when you're drowning.
00:22:44
JPC
That's true, yes.
Erin
It's a mixed bag.
JPC
On Billboard's Johnny, we did cover Aquatic Mine, the Knuckles song from Sonic Adventure Battle 2, and that is one of the best songs on that soundtrack.
Johnny
Yeah, that song does rip.
Adal
Knuckles raps, Knuckles raps. Okay, let's see. So, Knocked with Water Arrows. So, Water Arrows to me... I'm thinking like a fountain. Okay.
JPC
Yeah. Think of what water arrows could be. Fountain is good, but I really love the direction that you're going there thinking about what water arrows could be. Is it sperm? Adal? No. If fountain was close, why would it be sperm?
Adal
We don't go to the same fountains I see. Is it rain?
JPC
Okay. Yes. Rain is what they're referring to with water arrows. Oh, is it an umbrella? So no, so I am the chosen weapon of the warrior on high. Knocked with water arrows, I let the volley fly. When the battle's over, should I choose to show my face, I'll linger for a moment, then fade without a trace. Johnny, you're nodding?
00:23:48
Johnny
Is it a rainbow?
JPC
Ooh, Johnny! You have solved the puzzle. It is a rainbow. Nice one.
Erin
Good for you. You show up here once and you don't fucking get it.
JPC
Also good for me because my theory, my theory about the guests brains working because ours have been broken by Riddles. So far, he's pretty correct.
Erin
That was his hypothesis, so let's see.
Adal
I want to see a scene. I believe we're all familiar, at least if nothing else, in name only. We're all familiar with Rainbow Bright. Oh, you have a cartoon character, a doll or something? I'm with you. Erin, I want you to play your Rainbow Bright's cousin, Rainbow Dark. I'm just kind of a goth fucked up version of Rainbow Brights and you are talking to, you're talking to JPC and Johnny about the bad day you're having.
Erin
Bad Monday everybody. Good to see you. Good to see you.
Johnny
Bad to see you.
00:24:49
JPC
Yeah, it's awful to see you.
Erin
I'm glad that it's awful to see me. It's on purpose.
JPC
Can you unlock the door? Will you please unlock the door?
Erin
Mmm, will I unlock the door? Does that sound like me? Let me just go get Rainbow Brite and she'll make you a fucking cupcake and kiss you on the nose. Is that what you want?
Johnny
That's not gonna get the door open.
Adal
And sorry, I forgot to mention J.P.C. and Johnny, you are I don't care bears.
JPC
Nothing that you could say would affect me in any fucking way, so whatever.
Erin
I don't think anyone I know likes you.
JPC
I'm sorry. No, the first thing you said was fucking fuck you guys, and then you said hi, and those two things sound nothing alike.
Erin
Hmm, does that sound like you?
Johnny
Sounds like you kind of care.
00:25:50
Erin
Do I care?
Johnny
If I'm being honest.
Erin
Oh, it sounds like I care? Not Care Bear? Fuck you and your little rainbow tummy. That's so embarrassing.
JPC
Cool. Cool. Fuck my tummy. Who gives a shit? We're all gonna be dead in a hundred years. We live too long.
Johnny
We've all been saying it. I'm already 800 years old. Oh shit!
Erin
Guys, fuck fuck. Here comes Rainbow Bright.
Johnny
Hey!
JPC
Hey Rainbow Bright. Hi!
Johnny
Hi! And you waved my star wand and oh look it's so much brighter in here.
JPC
Literally does not matter.
Johnny
Have a good week.
Erin
Oh I'm just sitting down. Reba Bright, what's it like being in a book that's only in dentists' offices in the 90s?
Johnny
Oh Bern, it's great because everyone knows my name and everyone appreciates my smile. What are you busted bitches up to?
Erin
I was just talking about how much better Cabbage Patch Kids are than you. That's what I was just about to launch into. Okay, salty cousin. Anyone born after 1999 is not going to understand what's happening here.
00:26:58
Adal
Seen.
JPC
In my mind, what is light bright? That's different, right?
Adal
Light bright was like a grid.
JPC
That's what I'm thinking about.
Adal
It's like backlit and you put a piece of black paper with like a pattern on it and you shove little lights into it.
Johnny
My parents like taped the Rainbow Bright movie like off of TV and I just remember watching that whenever I was sick.
Erin
Oh wow, that's gonna only make a fever worse.
JPC
Yeah, Johnny, you remember watching it before you noticed symptoms, or do you remember watching it?
Johnny
No, I lost my taste and smell, and then I just started watching.
Erin
I don't think I knew there was a movie of it. I thought that it was just a book. I think it was a movie. Let me look it up.
Adal
I think there's a movie of everything. Any cartoon character you like, there's 10 movies of it.
JPC
I used to live in a world where Johnny's parents independently financed a rainbow bright movie and then they- He's gonna love it.
Erin
You're right. Oh man.
Adal
My parents went bust on Polly Pocket.
00:27:59
Erin
Rainbow Bright.
JPC
Why did you like this? Live action? Live action on this thing?
Erin
Mm-hmm. No cartoon.
JPC
No. Oh, thank God.
Adal
So much hair.
Erin
She's more hair than human. That's my dream for someone to say that about me. I'll buy the rights to this. I'll do a live-action remake. It'll be gritty though. It'll be like Christopher Nolan's Batman.
Johnny
I feel like she had little friends who were like furbies. They were basically furbies.
Erin
Yeah. I'll get a little photo of them.
JPC
There is no new IP, so eventually it will become attractive to some streamer to be like, okay, we can make a rainbow bright show. It cost us $95,000 and that's it. And then they'll do it. No new IP.
Adal
Okay, how about this, JPC? Four turtles. Now, this isn't going where you think. They mutate into martial artists, but it's not what you think. They're bad at it. Mmm, okay. No, that could work. So it's a lot of like they get in fights and they like tell the guy they're like, grab me here. No, no, no, here. Grab me here. Grab me here. And then they're like, I think I twist your, ah, it's not, it's not.
00:29:10
Erin
I'd watch that. That sounds like it's at my speed. Can I read you these Rainbow Bright sidekick names?
Johnny
Sure.
Erin
Romeo, Champ, Lucky, Spark, Hammy, Twink, OJ, and IQ.
Adal
Twink, Twink, OJ and Twink, IQ. Come on, Jules, get Twink.
Erin
We got to go. That's Twink. I love him.
Adal
Those are incredible. Yeah, he is. I think I want to watch Rainbow Bright now.
Erin
I think I want to be...
JPC
Six scenes in a movie. Before we make this podcast into Erin Googly, rainbow bright images, let's do this other Riddle. Observing from the heavens, I watch you as you die. A vicar at his pulpit, I preach patience from the sky. You're God's image in the flesh, all body but no bread. When you return to father, that's when I get fed. What am I? It's rainbow.
00:30:16
Erin
You guys are working together.
JPC
I knew it. Two rainbows. It's not earth. No, no, no. Three rainbows. None of those things. When you die, I get fed. That's fucked. It is fucked. And if you think about it for long enough, you might come up with the answer. Worms. Sarlacc pit. Wow. Interesting. Worms. Somebody has been watching the Boba Fett show. It is not worms now, and it is not the Sarlacc pit. Okay. When you die, I get fed.
Erin
Is it your butt?
JPC
What if it was my butt?
Erin
Then I would be right right now, wouldn't I?
JPC
Yeah, that's true, I guess. When you die... Is it my butt?
Johnny
Oh no, is it my butt? Oh god, is that what you had me on?
JPC
This submission came from 2018 and they correctly predicted it is Johnny's butt. Is it a coffin? Observing from the heavens, I watch you as you die. A vicar at his pulpit, I preach patience from the sky. So from the heavens, from the sky, yeah. Skyworm. Okay, you're getting closer. Elder Scrolls 4, Skyworm.
00:31:21
Erin
Oh, a vulture.
JPC
Erin, yes, this is a music review magazine. This is Vulture. Yes, it is a Vulture.
Adal
Yes, it is a Brooklyn vegan.
JPC
Your God's image in the flesh, all body but no bread. When you return to father, that's when I get fed. It is a Vulture. They feast off of the carcasses of us humans. They're Akkarian.
Erin
Not my favorite. I mean, like all God's creatures, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Adal
Do we know the difference between a Vulture and a Buzzard?
Erin
Um, I don't know, hair? That's just what I call you guys behind the back.
Adal
Yeah, buzzards have hair.
JPC
Buzzards have wigs. Like a... Like a robin girl. Yeah, like three Stooges wigs. With a little cowlick in the back. Adal, you said carrion, so I want to put a pun in my head and it's not gonna get out until we see a Stooges wigs.
Adal
Am I gonna be a vulture in high school when at prom and they dump pig's blood on me?
00:32:23
JPC
No, so, Erin and Johnny, you are both gun enthusiasts. You told Adal that he should get his concealed carry license. He got a concealed carry-on license, and he is showing up for the first time with his concealed carry-on.
Adal
Knock, knock, knock, knock, knock.
Erin
Hey, man, come in.
Adal
Hey, thanks. Wow, metal door and everything in a sliding little people. This is intense.
Erin
We're very cool.
Adal
But yeah, this is really a cool club. That's why we tell you that secret knock. Yeah, thank you so much. Hey, and I am... I'm hot. Is that the term? I'm hot on the streets.
Erin
Oh, you got it?
Adal
I got it. I got it.
Johnny
We do all have our licenses, so I don't think we need to whisper.
Erin
No, it's part of the fun. This is not just about the gun. And actually, I don't have a license. Who cares though, right?
Adal
I don't know why you're talking about guns. Anyway, I got my license, but I did have to steal this thing from a fucking zoo.
Erin
I've been there. I've done that. Come on in. Show us.
00:33:27
Adal
Ow, ow, it's biting me. Okay, here we go. Open up coats, shows vulture. Here's, I got my, I got my carry-in.
Erin
Oh my God.
Adal
Oh. Concealing Carrion.
Erin
Fuck, man. What the fuck is that?
Adal
Carrion my wayward son. Come on. It's a vulture. What are we talking about? Show me your vultures.
Erin
We have guns, man.
Adal
What?
Erin
Yeah.
Adal
To kill the vulture? No.
Johnny
To kill anything that comes into my house uninvited.
Adal
Vampires?
Johnny
I thought you said we're all going to get concealing Carrions. No, we don't. That's not what we said, and vampires can't come in your house uninvited.
Erin
I have kids, man. I don't want anything in my house that could hurt my kids. That's why I have all these guns.
Adal
Well, your kids have iPhones. I've seen them, so shame on you. That's poison. It's rotting their brains.
Erin
Wait, I feel like your vulture's about to say something.
JPC
Oh no, I'm not going to say anything. Let's just all go inside the house now, yeah? Wait a minute.
Adal
This modifier's been biting my neck all day long.
00:34:28
JPC
No, it's harmless. Let's all go in and shut the door and go to sleep. That sounds pretty good, actually.
Erin
Garlic.
JPC
Not for me, please.
Erin
I knew it.
JPC
It is a vulture.
Adal
Same. I like saying the word garlic.
JPC
Yeah, vampires can't stand to hear the word garlic uttered. Can I get the country of origin?
Adal
G-A-R?
JPC
I can't do it. I can't do it. Okay, well, with that, why don't you all practice saying garlic or spelling it and we will be right back after this brief little break.
Adal
Vulture sound.
Erin
I know what you're thinking. Do I have a new hat, Adal and JPC? New haircut? Why am I walking around with so much confidence?
Adal
I bet you're wondering. I wanted pretzels from the food court.
00:35:31
JPC
And I was just going to let you know that it looks like you leaned on paint.
Erin
Anyways, I just had a bunch of subscriptions canceled for me by Rocket Money that I wasn't using. And so now I'm flushed with cash and now I'm confident. Pretzel money? Well, maybe we'll talk about that. Rocket Money is a personal finance app that finds and cancels your unwanted subscriptions, monitors your spending, and helps you lower your bills all in one place. I've been using it for years, even before they were a sponsor.
JPC
Erin, it looks like you may have leaned on like with someone painting a rocket money like billboard or sign or something because it's all it's all down your back it's like and it's I could ock it ock it
Erin
People think they're spending $80 on their subscriptions when in reality, the number is closer to $200. And when you signed up for so many free trials, like streaming services, you watch one show and then you completely forget about it. You lose track and then all of a sudden you're like, why am I bleeding money? Rocket money? They take care of that for you. They go, sit back, relax. We got this. And they make everything color coded and easy and super intuitive.
00:36:38
Adal
You're also color-coded. A little birdie told me that Rocket Money also lets you monitor all your expenses in one place, recommends custom budgets based on your past spending, and they'll even send you notifications when you've reached your spending limits, which sounds like something my friend would like, but I forget which friend I'm so hungry for pretzels.
JPC
Speaking of pretzels, you don't get all twisted up by salty and the bread of your finances. With over 3 million users and counting, Rocket Money customers have saved an average of $720 a year.
Erin
Stop wasting money on things you don't use. Cancel your unwanted subscriptions and manage your money the easy way by going to rocketmoney.com slash riddle. That's rocketmoney.com slash riddle. rocketmoney.com slash r-i-d-d-l-e.
JPC
Hey, what's going on? Somebody leaned over my rocket money paint thing. Run. Everybody run. Oh no. Maroon.
Adal
Is that DaVinci?
Erin
Yeah. Yes.
00:37:38
Adal
And bye.
JPC
Okay, let's all see how we did. Okay, I'll go first. G-A-R-L-I-T.
Erin
Right, you got it.
JPC
Okay, so I couldn't do it. I don't think I did it very well. Pretty good. I don't think I did it very well.
Adal
Okay, I'll go next. G-I-R-L-T-A-L-K. Garlic.
JPC
Very close. That was way closer than you've gotten so far. That was very close. Ah, nuts. G-A-R-T-H-B-R-O-O-K-S. Garch Bruff. I don't know what that means.
Johnny
Very close. J-A-R-L-I-T-C-H.
JPC
Okay, no spoilers because I haven't seen... I'm only four episodes into Boba Fett, okay? If we start talking about Star Wars characters.
Adal
You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods.
Erin
You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods.
00:38:40
Adal
You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods.
JPC
You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods. You've seen the mods.
Adal
Wait, garlic bit, sarlac pit. Hold on. I don't have the energy, but there's something there.
JPC
Pop and corn. Okay, this is a Riddle. Good. Yeah, very good. I didn't just pull up an email. This is an email from my boss. Can you come into it? It's been three years. This is an email, and I'll just use their initials. This is from AB. AB says, one of my managers at my job were in a small Riddy game, and while most of them were kind of dumb, I thought you might enjoy this one.
Adal
I just want to give a huge shout out, for no reason at all, to my good friend Annette Benning.
JPC
Wink. Adal, you are very close. You are very close to this person's name. You got the first letter of both names correct. Holy shit. Yeah. I have cities, but no houses. Forests, but no trees. Water, but no fish. What am I?
00:39:55
Adal
My dude, I could say the answer or I could sing it. I'll lock Karen O. in a little group called the Yayayays. Okay, none of us get the reference. Go ahead. Maps. Not one of the best songs.
Johnny
That's absolutely their best song.
Adal
Hold on. Why Control's their best song?
Erin
It's also my karaoke song.
Adal
Why?
Erin
Because I'm boring.
Adal
It goes Y-Control, yeah, it goes Y-Control, Maps, and then off with their head. Wow.
Erin
Can you read it again?
Adal
My karaoke's... No, it's Maps.
Erin
Oh, okay. I was like, if it's not Maps, then I don't know it. I thought you didn't confirm it.
JPC
I hadn't. I hadn't confirmed it. I had not confirmed it. Sometimes there's just too many bits for me to get in my little confirmations.
Adal
I think that's a new fun game is anytime someone gets the answer right, another one of us goes, can you read it again?
Erin
Well, you didn't say yes. And I was like, well, then I am lost. All right, go ahead.
JPC
Erin is correct. I didn't say yes. And that is a great way to get someone lost. This next one is from Adal. You're going to flip your shit. This person's initials are A B. It is not a net bidding, and they don't say that I can say their name, so I won't say it.
00:41:04
Adal
Okay. Sorry, I sussed it out. I'm going to whisper it. Is it Alfred Boena?
JPC
He cleverly disguised it. He cleverly disguised his name by saying Alfred Bolina. A.B. says, I'm taking the poetry class right now, and in my huge poetry anthology book, I discovered three riddles from the 10th century, translated into modern English from old English. They're approximately 1,100 years old. This is from 2018, so let's just say 1,104 years old.
Adal
So take that with a gr- I wish somebody could translate my old English into a Miller Lite.
Erin
Good.
JPC
Very nice. And Old English is cologne, correct?
Erin
Yep. So good.
JPC
Anyway, take that with a grain of salt. I thought you might enjoy them, so here they are. Riddle number one. These are a little bit longer, so bear with me, okay? Yes. Rawr! Rawr! Salmon! Honey! Rawr!
Erin
I'll bear with you.
JPC
Rawr!
Erin
Rawr!
00:42:07
JPC
When I say bear with me and people don't do that, I get a little bit upset. So just so you know about me, when I say bear with me, I'm going to need you to go rah rah rah.
Erin
JPC moving forward, I know that now, and I'm glad that I can take better care of you as your friend.
Adal
Can we support you? Can you say that again? Sure, absolutely.
JPC
These are going to be a little bit longer, so bear with me.
Erin
You're a dick. He just told us to be a bear.
JPC
I like that bear. Who's the new bear?
Erin
That is a vampire.
JPC
I'm sorry, that is not scared, that is scarred. I am a lonely being scarred by swords, wounded by iron, sated with battle deeds. Wearied by blades, often I witness war, perilous fight, nor hope for consolation, that any health may rescue me from strife, before I perish among fighting men. But hammered swords, hard-edged and grimly sharp, batter me, and the handwork of the smith bites in the castles. I must ever wait a contest yet more cruel. I could never, in any habitation, find the sort of doctor who could heal my wounds with herbs. But cuts from swords ever increase on me through deadly contests both by day and night. Anvil?
00:43:29
Erin
That's a good guess.
JPC
Hey Riddle
Adal
I believe this is a really fun scene from before. Hopefully I'm right. JBC you are Wylie Coyote, Erin you are the Roadrunner, and JBC you just had an anvil drop on your head because you jumped on a teeter totter or seesaw and it flew up in the air and hit you and the Roadrunner has stopped to kind of admire her work and you've had enough.
Erin
Oh shit are you okay? No! No?
JPC
No I'm not!
Erin
Oh okay good. You are as bad as a pancake.
JPC
I think you broke my fucking xiphoid process. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about as well as a pancake?
Erin
Don't be. I don't have to fucking imitate my voice. That's not nice. You know what this is. You know where we are. You know who this is.
00:44:31
JPC
Yeah, I know what it is. I know what you are. I know where we are. And I tried to kill you. But what you did in the Geneva Conventions is torture.
Erin
Okay.
JPC
This is torture.
Erin
Well, I look to my left. I look to my right. Do I see the Geneva Convention anywhere?
JPC
Fuck you.
Erin
I'm looking around for the Geneva. I don't seem to... It's a greed-a-pod.
JPC
It's a greed-a-pod thing. You know what I was going to do if I caught you? I'd eat you.
Erin
Oh, you would?
JPC
I'd kill you when I'd eat you.
Erin
Well, I'm not too worried about it. You're never going to catch me.
JPC
Well, okay. Okay, fine. Yeah, why? Because I got crushed into a fucking pancake?
Erin
Yeah, you don't have this.
JPC
And I'm basically dead? But God won't let me die?
Erin
Do you know that my dad is an anvil salesman and he owns all the anvils in this part of the world? So I'm rich in anvils.
Adal
We cut to Zurich, Switzerland. Please, the two of you are before us. The convention has been moved from Geneva to Zurich.
Erin
You are on trial for crimes against this character. Me-Mean Anvil falls on that man. Oh!
JPC
That guy blew up! He's not a cartoon! Jesus!
Johnny
Okay, well, good thing he was just the court stenographer, and I'm the judge.
00:45:36
JPC
Now the important stenographer.
Johnny
And I know, so you really did us a favor. And thank you for coming here to Zurich again. Me-Mean Anvil!
JPC
Wow, you obliterated that sonographer. That sonographer is way dead.
Johnny
Okay, the one was enough. You just broke your other anvil.
JPC
I've never seen an anvil drop on an anvil before.
Erin
Maybe triple anvil! Anvil, anvil, anvil, anvil!
JPC
Okay, so can we do this with nine jurors or do we need the full 12 because... Same.
Adal
We did that before, right? I feel like 40 episodes ago you guys were a Roadrunner and Wile E. Cody.
Erin
And I love your memory and I love that you held on to that. I vaguely remember it, so thank you.
JPC
And I love your memory, Adal, which is why I'm so glad to not have to read this riddle again. Let's do guesses.
Erin
So this is what happens sometimes where you will have an Oh, excuse me. I have an answer in your head and then it's a really long riddle and if you get to the end and you're wrong, you're fucked because you weren't following the thread of the answer because I was thinking like rock or stone.
00:46:49
JPC
Okay. Rock or stone. Both are incorrect.
Erin
I know, and that's why I'm found.
JPC
Is it a shield? John. Ooh, that's a great one. It is a shield. It is a shield. Yeah, it's scarred by swords. It keeps getting battered and hammered by... Yeah, it's a shield. It's definitely just a shield.
Erin
Okay. I'm really happy for you. I think you've gotten three, two, three, right? Four? Rainbow?
JPC
There's no way to know.
Erin
Thank you. You're right. We'll never know, for sure.
JPC
Unfortunately, we can't know for sure, and we never will. There are two more riddles, so keep in mind, Erin, always throw that first guess out because it's always going to be wrong, except if it's Johnny, that it's usually right. This one's a little shorter, but still, please bear with me. Has there ever been a night?
Johnny
Meow. What the fuck?
Adal
Has there ever been a night? What the fuck? Has there ever been a night that just had two shields? Would that be like a cool thing?
Erin
I think he would be very nervous. He'd be like, oh god.
Johnny
He just has to wait until the other guy gets so tuckered out from swinging.
00:48:11
JPC
If I'm on the battlefield and I see the night with two shields, I'm like, dibs. Because I know that's the one night who's not killing me. I might not kill him, but we might be able to like two or three hours into the battle be like, we're good, right? You go back to France, I go back to England, we good?
Erin
Beware the knight with two shields. He will tucker you out. You'll be exhausted.
Johnny
I've heard tale of you. Bedtime tale. And then what happens? And then he just leaves.
JPC
He can't win. He's tired too. His poor arms, they're covered in bruises.
Adal
And then whoever's attacking the knight with two shields slowly realizes it's just like a, it's just an armament, like it's just a stand with two shields on it. There's no guy back here, it's just two shields on the wall. I guess I got some good practice in.
JPC
Yeah, you've been fighting the wall, what did you think that guy was impossibly thin? My dress is silent when I tread the ground, or stay at home, or stir upon the waters. Sometimes, my trappings in the lofty air raise me above the dwelling place of Mid. And then the power of clouds carries me far above the people, and my ornaments loudly resound. Send forth a melody and clearly sing when I am not in touch with earth or water, but a flying spirit.
00:49:48
Adal
Some sort of fucking bird, some sort of like a stork or something.
JPC
Adal, you are very close with some sort of fucking bird. Now think about it. What birds did we have a thousand years ago? Pigeon.
Johnny
Oh, dinosaurs, dinosaurs!
JPC
Flamingos and Top Hats? No, Erin, would you like to say your answer? Swan. It is a swan.
Erin
But can we circle back to Flamingos and Top Hats? Because I feel like there's another movie there.
JPC
I'm not going to play Monopoly right now. That game takes an hour and nobody wins.
Erin
Well, we all win if we get a little closer and have some fun and learn the value of money. We learn the value of money if we play Monopoly.
Adal
And how the stork market works. And what neighborhoods to build buildings in.
JPC
Okay, this one is going to be the shortest of the three, so bear with me. Okay, I'm slowly, it's like a 50-50 with you guys. Will I get what I want? Will I get what I need?
00:50:52
Erin
I have the memory of a goldfish, so I have to wait for Adal to do it. And then I remember to do it.
JPC
Gotcha, okay. This is Riddle 3. A moth ate words, a marvelous event. I thought it when I heard about that wonder. A worm had swallowed some man's lay. A thief in darkness had consumed the mighty same with its foundation firm. The thief was not one wit the wiser when he ate those words.
Adal
Sorry, I wasn't listening. I was thinking I have the memory of a goldfish. Man, I miss my dead fish parents.
Erin
Good. I like that a lot. I think the answer is book.
JPC
You think the answer is book. That is close, but it is not correct.
Adal
Oh, cookbook.
JPC
Johnny?
Johnny
I'll be honest, I'm too stupid for these ones and I didn't even know that you got to the question part yet. It just sounded like you said a lot of words.
00:51:56
JPC
Yeah, so I think, Erin, you glommed onto the very first thing, which is, And this is translated? This is Transylvania. Oh, don't invite it in. Old English is like barely English. It's like... So this is way behind because he was looking to make a deal. Johnny, rosin' up your bow.
Adal
Was book close?
JPC
Book is part of the answer. The word book is part of the story. The word book is part of the story.
Johnny
The word book is part of the story. The word book is part of the story.
JPC
The word book is part of the story.
Johnny
Well, yeah, we're gonna think you're gonna find out what the definition of book is.
00:52:58
JPC
Thank you. The word book. The word book is in this answer.
Adal
Bookmaker, bookmaker, bookmaker.
JPC
It is bookworm. Yes. This is a worm that eats a book. And that dumbass worm... Worm is in the riddle.
Erin
Worm was in the riddle. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. Groove is in the heart. Oh, I want to see a scene.
JPC
Oh, please, Erin.
Erin
Okay, so, Johnny, you are a bookworm, you're a literal worm, and you're on a date with JPC, and you're just being super pretentious because you have a really pretentious taste in books.
JPC
Oh, they have Rainbow Bright here. I'd love to, like an aperitif, like an appetizer, if we wanted to order like a Rainbow Bright. They're like 10 pages.
Johnny
I'm only familiar with the movie Rainbow Bright.
JPC
Oh, uh, well, yeah, I mean, did you like the movie?
Johnny
I don't really watch movies or eat them. Whatever makes sense in the fiction.
Adal
Sorry, sir. I heard you say rainbow. I heard you from the bar. So I brought you a tall drink of gravity's rainbow. Thomas Pynchon. It's a vintage Thomas Pynchon.
00:54:08
JPC
Oh, and you work here or you're a... I'm not paying for this.
Johnny
This is just my buddy. We happen to be here at the same time.
Adal
What can I get you? Would you like a Vonnegut or Foster Wallace? What can I get you?
Johnny
Oh, again, he doesn't work here. He's just a guy, but he'll get you the drink.
JPC
You're gonna get me a drink. Honestly, I'm overwhelmed with this menu. I feel like I'm kind of way over my head. Half of these things are in French.
Johnny
If we're sticking with rainbows, I think he could really do with a rainbow fish. That's more his speed.
Adal
Yeah, so I understand. I understand.
JPC
Okay, hold on. Hold on. I've been to restaurants before. I don't need to eat like hop and pop tonight or whatever. Don't order me green eggs and hail. I could do an adult drink. Give me an Anamorphs 106. What?
Adal
Sorry, I just thought of my favorite candy bar. It's a snicker, which is why I did what I did. I'll be right back with you in a book.
JPC
No, no, no, no, hold on. Let me get... No, of course it's a little kid drink. I don't want that. You know, give me... Ooh, you know what? I'll have a catcher in the rye.
00:55:16
Adal
Oh, that's much better, yes.
JPC
Oh wait, is that whiskey? Hold on, I can't do that. Original. I can't do rye. Okay. God, I don't know. Can I have, what about, you said that you have a Vonnegut?
Adal
Yes.
JPC
Uh, can I get... Does Vonnegut have, like, short stories? Sure! What's it? Crazy Monkey House? What's that? Excuse me!
Adal
You're thinking of the Dandy Warhols.
Erin
The table of ladies over there just sent over this James Joyce for you. I hope you like characters who are stuck in their circumstances.
???
Oh.
Johnny
Wow. The best thing about these is that when you finish it, you start it over.
JPC
That's so bold to send those table of ladies to send a book over. When we're on a date.
Erin
We knew what we were doing. Yoo-hoo.
JPC
I think they're just trying to sew Discord, honestly. Oh, and they're drinking Yoo-hoo. They should be drinking books!
00:56:22
Erin
I was so in over my head and now we all were. I don't think we've ever read a book based on- I can't read! Well, I know that.
JPC
Having to come up with a book I've read on the spot, I've read that Vonnegut short stories one and it's a bath at a monkey house? It's something like that. Okay, here's the last riddle for today. This one comes from Brandon. Brandon writes, that's Brandon with a B, Brandon writes, what has no sides or an infinite number of sides? Switzerland. What's that?
Adal
Switzerland?
JPC
What is no sides or an infinite number of sides? And though it can be easily perceived, it can never be truly created.
Adal
Wow. No sides or an infinite number of sides. Is it both at the same time or it's one or the other?
JPC
Uh, both at the same time, I would say. Wow.
Johnny
Yeah. Victoria Filet at Outback Steakhouse.
Erin
There you go. Yes.
00:57:24
JPC
Or, this day comes with an infinite number of swords. No, I'd like none, please.
Johnny
You call that a side?
Adal
No, that's a knife.
Johnny
Oh, you call that a knife?
Adal
We call that a committee. No sides or an infinite number of sides, and what was the second part to it?
JPC
It can be easily perceived, it can never be truly created. Though it can be easily perceived, it can never be truly created. This is heady.
Johnny
An argument?
JPC
Ooh, that's a great answer. That is a very, very good answer to this riddle. But no, it is not an argument. It is... Origami? Origami is closer, but it is not origami.
Adal
Origami is closer than an argument. Sounds like a Leonard Cohen lyric.
JPC
That's my favorite Vonnegut book. Yeah, origami is closer technically.
Adal
In terms of the word, like the spelling or sound of the word, or in terms of the actual object?
00:58:27
JPC
A floating orb. I think in terms of the actual object. Erin, I love floating orb because if it was just an orb on the ground, you'd be like, no, it's got a sign I can see it right there. But if it's floating, no, it is not a floating orb.
Erin
The future.
Johnny
Is it like a plane but like in math where everything would be?
JPC
Nice. Yes, it's kind of like that. I mean, that's very, very close. We're very close.
Adal
Is it the thing that's like the spiral inward that occurs in nature everywhere? What is that? A fibonacci finger? A fractal? Fractal?
JPC
Okay, enough of your little conspiracy theories about the spiral that you can see in no one else's case.
Adal
The spiral staircase that went up to the book depository, you know, the current nature.
Erin
It's on all the dollar bills, and that's just the beginning.
00:59:30
JPC
You know the thing? It was the last thing your dad ever said to you. He said, find it, find it. You must find the fractal. You know the thing, Kurt Russell. You know the thing. He gave you the pouch with the gym. It became your life. You bet the beautiful exotic woman. You had to save her. Oh boy, give us a little hint, Daddy. So with like math, like math class or like geometry class, I think you were, with like talking about a plane, that was where you were the closest.
Adal
Is it like a graph or a grid or something?
JPC
I mean, I think you're so close to it that I might as well just give it to you because I truly believe that Johnny, again, Johnny's plane answer was probably the best.
Johnny
How specific is it? Is it going to be like... It's pretty specific in that... Would you say Euclidean?
JPC
It's something that you would put on a piece of paper. I think definitely... What's that? A pen.
Adal
A pen.
01:00:30
JPC
No. A drawing. I'm Yes, yes, it is that. It is a two-dimensional shape. Because if you try to create one, whether it be on a screen or on a paper, the shape will have some level of depth and can therefore be three-dimensional. So you can never really create a two-dimensional shape. As soon as you do, it'll be three-dimensional. And it has no sides or an infinite number of sides.
Adal
I will say my, I discovered, this is years and years ago, I discovered like my junior high notebooks, my memes, and so many pages are just covered in the, when you draw one square and then another square slightly behind it and then connect it with the angles. So it becomes like I was obsessed with just doodling that over and over.
Johnny
You ever do that but with the cool S?
Erin
Yes.
Johnny
Yes.
Erin
Oh yeah, the shade and the certain eye.
01:01:30
Johnny
Oh yeah.
Erin
No internet then. We had to make cool lessons.
JPC
Yeah, what were we going to do? Sit in class and fuck up?
Erin
No!
JPC
No, no, no, no, no. We had the internet my day. It was called Doodles. Grandpa's the internet. Go get me a switch. You guys absolutely nailed it. That was a hard one. Brandon says hope you like it or alternatively I hope the people guessing it hate it and the person reading it gets pleasure out of it. Well Brandon you didn't know that I'd be reading it but you knew me all too well. Brandon sounds like a real pervert.
Erin
I had so much pleasure. Yeah, 100%. Thank you for staying in.
JPC
You sound like my type of person. Brandon, a real pervert. So if you're out there and you're still listening, you get two thumbs up from this pervert, which brings us to my favorite part of the show. And that's the part of the show where we plug the shit that we got going on. And so we'll give the guests the honored spot of going last so they can truly just think about all their plugs. And I'll go to you first. Adal, what is it that you would like to plug?
Adal
I was recently a guest on a wonderful podcast called Finding Favorites. I was talking about Chicago restaurants and food and a bunch of other stuff, so please check out that podcast, Finding Favorites, and also check out the Hello from the Magic Tavern Patreon, please. I believe all of our Hey Tavern Tavern episodes are either on there now or will be on there fairly soon.
01:02:51
Erin
My favorite thing we ever recorded for real. I can't wait for that residual check.
JPC
Uh, Erin, anything to plug?
Erin
Um, follow sitcomdnd on Twitter and Instagram and then also I'd like to plug going to Target and going to the frozen section and getting frozen donuts and then put them in your refrigerator and then have one donut every day. Uh, it's making my life a little better. I'm having a donut a day. It's very peaceful.
JPC
A cold donut?
Erin
So I don't know why they're in the freezer section. I get the gluten-free donuts from the freezer section and then I put them in my refrigerator and they're cold and it tastes so good cold and I didn't know and no one told me and so now I'm telling people because no one told me.
JPC
Oh, okay. Because no one told you.
Erin
I'm breaking the cycle. I'm bringing people joy. You're breaking the cycle. Yes.
Adal
JBC, any crazy shit you wanna blurt?
Erin
Hey, my thing was meaningful. Have a donut every day, Adal. Fuck you have a donut every day. I'm mad at you right now and I still want you to have the pleasures of a donut a day. Fucking fuck you, man.
01:03:53
Johnny
Just one donut a day.
JPC
You can call me a mall cop because I'm about to Paul Blur this out. You can follow me at Twitch.tv slash sharkbarkman and that's where you can find me streaming video games over at Twitch. Johnny, you're the guest of honor. Anything that you would like to plug?
Johnny
J-A-R-L-I-T-C-H. Uh, I... Garlic.
JPC
I love... He got it.
Johnny
To plug my show that I do with JPC called Bill Buds, we talk about pop music. Adal and Erin have both been on.
Erin
I loved going on.
Adal
I'd love to get you back. That's a blast. And I hope to come back on for Phil Buds, which is the three of us talking about Phil Collins. Double jeopardy.
Johnny
I'm on a podcast called Dilla Taunt Ball where I read Wikipedia articles with my friend. I'm on a podcast called Campaign where I play the Genesis role-playing game with my enemies. And if you rewind this episode, I'm on Hey Riddle Riddle this week.
01:04:58
JPC
And we will put links to all of those donuts in the show notes. So if anyone wants to check out Johnny's other donuts, you can put those in the freezer, move them to the fridge.
Johnny
I'll tell you what, you eat, you get, uncrustables are in the freezer section. You eat those, you eat those bad boys frozen.
Erin
Adal, you like that but not my donut idea? I fucking fuck this place. Whatever, fuck you guys. Whatever, fuck you guys. Donut a damn, try to make your life a little better, a little sunnier, have a donut thing for me.
Johnny
Why forever?
JPC
Casey Toney did the editing and already parented the music Hey there, Zaks and Brafs. If you like that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. It's our thrilling conclusion to the Hey Riddle Station Space Saga. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com slash Hey Riddle Riddle by joining the Clue crew for $5 a month or the Review crew for $8 a month and ad-free episodes at the Review crew tier. See you there.
01:06:12
Erin
That was a hate gun podcast.