Which Riddle Riddle?

#155: Eat at Tootie Poots!

00:00:02

Erin

This is a HeadGum podcast.

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Today, we're talking riddles. Three podcast hosts do a show solving riddles, puzzles, lateral thinking problems. They do improv along the way and have some fun. They're friends. One of them just moved. I'm Ira Glass. This is Hey Riddle Riddle. I'm Adal Rifai as well.

00:01:02

JPC

Did you know that Ira Glass stands for Irish Republican Army? What?

Adal

Did you know that glass stands for... Gee, Laddie Adal sucks.

Erin

People are going to think that this is this American life and then they're going to be so mad when it's not.

Adal

I've been practicing my irreglass impression on a scale of one to ten. What do we think?

Erin

Was that pretty good? I'd say like eight or nine. It got really good by the end, too.

JPC

Okay. It's been too long since I've heard irreglass's voice for me to comment. Does anybody else want to try it? No.

Erin

No, but I really love that you put yourself out there that way. I was really beautiful to watch.

JPC

I'm really proud of you. Thank you.

Erin

I would never, but it's for you.

JPC

What's the, uh, what's the woman who does cereal? I can do that.

Erin

Adal, I can do the music. Ready?

JPC

Harmony Corinne. Ready? That's my, that's my, that's my whole bit.

Erin

Bling, bling, bling, bling, bling. Yeah, we can all do that.

00:02:04

JPC

Is that Starly Kind? No. No, it's, oh god, what is her name? Anyway, I forget her name, but I can do a pretty, uh, spot on impression.

Adal

Let's hear it. Here we go.

JPC

Male Cube. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know her name. She's in the opening of the... For about 16 months. Sarah Conning.

Adal

Sarah Conning. For about 16 months, male chimp was like the butt of every joke where it's like, oh, I'm real chimp. And then eventually, did they go out of business? Are they still around?

Erin

Let humans have fun. I bet you had fun doing six or seven day of chimp bits.

Adal

I had so much fun. Can you do any podcast host impressions?

Erin

I'm Adal Rifai. I'm an absolute clown. Who knows? I got pervert energy.

JPC

Well, well, Erin, I do want to thank you for introducing the rest of us because Adal introduced himself and then we forgot to introduce ourselves.

Erin

I'm Erin and that's JPC's very kind good man.

JPC

And I have pervert energy, which doesn't make me a pervert. It just means that's the energy that I put out.

00:03:05

Adal

So wait, does this absolute clown bullshit still stand?

JPC

Did I say that? Okay, that's a really good example of absolute cloud bullshit.

Adal

I told you that vodka company paid me to be a clown.

Erin

Erin, okay. I do not want to mix vodka and clowns.

Adal

We have a lot to catch up with. There's been a lot going on in the Hey Riddle Riddle universe with our hosts. I'll start off because mine's maybe the shortest. Erin, since you left for LA, I told myself, Erin- Please. Yes. Thank you. I told myself, Adal, you should start writing more. Time is fleeting. You got to start writing more. So I've written something, and Erin, I want your opinion on it because I consider you a wonderful collaborator. JPC, I want your opinion as well. Oh, can't wait. But I assume yours is going to be negative. I've been trying to write more in general and so I wanted to start with the basics and I know that famously the saddest short story ever written is for sale baby shoes never worn. Now I was doing some writing exercises and I said, Adal, can you make this a two sentence story and make it the happiest story in the world? So I took a shot at that. So instead of the saddest one sentence story of all time, I have written the happiest two sentence story of all time. Erin, whenever you're ready, I'm going to start reading this. Okay. For sale, baby shoes never worn. The baby was born with wheels.

00:04:35

Erin

Okay, is the question, should you go outside and get some sun? Because the answer is yes. I think you could use some fresh air Adal, maybe a walker on your block.

JPC

Not the notes I wanted. Not the notes I wanted. And for my notes, when you said famously, I thought to myself, who is the most famous Lee? And then I was like, Bruce Lee, Tommy Lee Jones, David Lee Roth, Vivian, Lee Harvey Oswald. And then I started going, I was like, I don't know. I don't know who the famous is.

Erin

I'd say Robert E. Lee.

JPC

Robert E. Lee, yeah, yeah, okay.

Adal

I also have a tweet in my draft box if you want to give me some notes on this.

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You ready?

Adal

Sperm count? What is that, some sort of gross Dracula?

Erin

Okay, yeah, I would go outside, take a walk. Also, I would say my baby being born with wheels is sort of a nightmare. My husband will know I fuck my car.

JPC

I'm sorry, Adal, but is that tweet just a direct sub-tweet of my, I want to suck, you're not, tweet because that's what Sperm Dracula would say, to be clear.

00:05:44

Adal

Sperm count does say, I want to suck, you're dick.

Erin

You guys are literally right where I left you.

Adal

So, Erin, sounds like you don't want to voice my character of Baby Car. What, Erin?

Erin

I never said that.

Adal

Speaking of baby car, you've been in a car traveling, traversing, across America to your final destination. What's his name? Ethan Supley? No, what's that guy's name? Ethan Hawke? No, what's his name? Devin Sawa. Who's the most famous Sawa? Erin, how was your trip? Where did you stop along the way? Are you settled?

Erin

Um, it was good. I'm happy. It took a long time to finally get out of Chicago, kept getting delayed. It was making me feel really anxious and sad, so I'm happy to be finally here. I feel way more peaceful, way more relaxed, and it's just so fun to finally be in my new place.

JPC

That's that Cali weed, baby.

Erin

Yeah, smoking it right now. We were going to take a longer trip, but it became kind of apparent that it was starting to be really hard on our sweet dog, Lou, who was like, what is happening? The whole time she was like, what the fuck is this? So we sort of cut it short, but ended up being great. So we stopped in middle of nowhere, Nebraska.

00:06:59

Adal

Ooh, J.R.R. talking.

Erin

We made some stops along the way, but didn't sleep any. We stopped in Iowa for a second, stopped in Nebraska somewhere else. And then our biggest days were Boulder, Colorado, which I loved. And then Moab. which I loved and then Zion which uh and that was like our big uh splurge was an Airbnb in Zion that was like a glamping experience wow that's cool I've heard so beautiful I've heard that's the prettiest of national parks JPC I know you've been to a lot of national parks would you say that that's the best

JPC

Yeah, and I went with my brother and him and his wife went out like maybe a month or two ago. And they said that the lines, there's a limit of how many people could come in the park because COVID particles were still up. They might not be at this point, but maybe they still are, I don't know. But he said the lines were like 250 people long for Hey Riddle.

00:08:19

Erin

What a night. Wow. Good commentary.

JPC

It's a valley. So you have to go into the valley to kind of get into the national park. But yeah, it's got to be packed because it's so fucking wonderful there.

Adal

That's where our friend Brett Lyons proposed to his now wife.

Erin

It's so cool. It's so beautiful. I can't recommend it enough. I'd really never, I'd never been to Colorado. I'd never been to Utah before. And it was such a gorgeous drive. We were supposed to do Grand Canyon and then Joshua Tree on the way. But then like, Lou started to like, she got sick when we were in Zion. We were like, we just got to go. So we drove from Zion to Vegas and we were like, just planning on getting takeout somewhere in Vegas because I'd never seen it before.

JPC

Sure. Here's what I'll say. Dogs love Vegas.

Erin

This is the problem we ran into and I came up with the absolute meanest solution. Can I tell you guys something that I'm not proud of? Sure. Okay. I didn't like leave Lou in a car or anything horrible like that. So Lou had been in the desert for a few days and had been sick. And so I was like, we should get her groomed right when we go to LA.

00:09:29

Adal

And I'm sorry, this is Diamond Phillips or your dog? Okay, so you grew Lou Diamond Phillips. Who was the most famous Diamond Phillips?

Erin

Oh, we didn't bring our dog. Yeah, Lou Diamond Phillips was just shitting in the desert because they were super sick.

Adal

I believe it. Just like you did in Young Guns.

Erin

Yeah, so I was like, had this stroke of genius. I was like, why? I've never been to Vegas before. I would love to see a casino. I want to go through the Bellagio. And so I found a PetSmart. That would groom Lou. So after the worst week of her life driving away from her home, we would call it a spa day. She thought I was abandoning her in the middle of nowhere, Nevada. And the eye contact she made with me when I was leaving her to get groomed was one of the most tragic moments of my life. She really thought I was leaving her there. Would you call it haunting? Oh yeah, for sure. I can't stop thinking about it. But she really did need to be groomed. She was very dusty. So she got groomed and I walked into the Bellagio. The air in there is amazing. I want to go back just for that. What day was this?

00:10:52

Adal

Because I was back in Vegas for 18 hours the other day.

Erin

It was right after you.

Adal

But I went back. So I was there for my birthday and then I was back, I was there for my birthday for two days and then I went back.

Erin

I would have been there Friday.

Adal

I was there, I was there Friday.

Erin

Why didn't we talk?

Adal

I don't know, but I was at the, I was at the Cosmopolitan the whole time.

Erin

You could have watched Tulu.

Adal

Yeah, I ate a wicked spoon buffet, which was very good.

Erin

Well I want to go back maybe for my 30th birthday party, so if you're interested.

Adal

Well 30th famously we're going to Hawaii.

JPC

Ah, ah, Hawaii and Vegas. Hawaii and Vegas. Yeah, they have a Hawaii and Vegas stuff.

Adal

They have a Paris there. Erin, will you, I'm going to, in July sometime, I can't remember when, I'm going to Colorado for the first time to go to Red Rocks to see Guster.

Erin

Oh, that's a blast.

Adal

So if you want to come.

Erin

I mean, yeah, I'm, I love Guster, you know I love Guster.

Adal

So did you bet, did you place any bets? Did you get them?

00:11:54

Erin

I did.

Adal

What'd you do? Would you win?

Erin

Well, it was awesome! And I felt something change. I could like hear my pupils getting bigger when I... So we were like, all right, we are only gonna like $50 each. We're gonna put $100 on the roulette. Like we're gonna play. And we got the little chips and we ended up like $250 extra up. We sat down with 100 and we left with like 300 and something. And I'm different now. And now I want to gamble all the time. It was thrilling and the air in there was good. And I was like, oh, I get it.

Adal

Did they bring you free drinks?

Erin

Yeah, I was like, yeah. Yeah, I might turn into a Vegas person, which means I will have no money. Yeah, Lou's still there. We walked her around PetSmart because dogs are allowed in there and we let her pick whatever toy she wanted because we felt so guilty.

Adal

Dogs are allowed in PetSmart? Yeah. Dogs are allowed in here. Look at the name on the store. Oh, PetSmart. My bad, my bad.

00:13:04

Erin

It was really fun and then I made it to LA and I love my place and I got a haircut today. I got eight inches off. It did become clear to me when I was walking around here. I was like, oh, I look like I'm from Chicago. I have a very different vibe.

Adal

As soon as I came on screen for our sound check, I was screaming with joy. Erin, your hair looks the best it's ever looked. That color's amazing. Thank you so much.

Erin

It's a super dark red and it's very short. And I love it, but I got here and I was like, I look like Snow White's much sicker cousin. And I need to start to look more awake and alive because everyone here looks so healthy.

Adal

You look like hipster Jean Grey, is what it looks like.

JPC

Well, you know, Erin, I get that you just arrived in L.A. and you know that it was summertime in Chicago when you left, right? You had an opportunity to go outside.

Erin

It was summer.

JPC

Gets a bite of the tea. Illinois?

Erin

Chicago, Illinois.

JPC

Yeah, for sure.

Erin

Oh, okay.

00:14:05

JPC

Also, before you left, I could have hooked you up with so much dog anxiety medicine.

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I'm still in that with dog anxiety.

JPC

Oh yeah, it works. You just gotta take more of it. Are you like a 50-pound dog, 60-pound dog?

Erin

Yeah, I'm like a 50-pound dog. Um, Lou and let's do some like dog medicine talk really quick. Sure, sure. She has anxiety meds and she has meds for driving in the car but we've done a lot of road trips with her and we have found that makes her more anxious because she fights to sleep and it makes her back legs numb so it makes her scared to get in and out of the car. So we went with no meds and so in the car she was fine but every time we'd get to like a new hotel or location she was like What is happening? Are you guys about to leave me somewhere? This sucks. I'm scared.

JPC

Has she? Do you think she's adjusted to the fact that this is where you're going to be now? Is she comfortable in this space?

Erin

We couldn't believe it. I got pretty emotional. She seems like the happiest here than she's ever been anywhere. That's great. We lived in River North on the 10th floor before. And so we had a balcony that she was obsessed with going out on, but now we have tons of windows and we're on the second floor. So she's just been in like dog heaven, looking at squirrels, birds.

00:15:22

Adal

Well all dogs go to heaven. I do want to say it was said a moment ago, but I do have to take an opportunity just to plug, to push my own wares. Um, actually the first horror book I wrote since you've left Erin is called She Fights the Sleep.

Erin

Um, it doesn't come out.

Adal

It comes out October 1st, so please look for She Fights the Sleep.

Erin

Is it two sentences?

Adal

On shelves inside my house.

Erin

Yeah, of course. I think, yeah, maybe go for a walk, I'd say. I am happy that I got to see you guys one more time before I left. We got to see each other for a couple hours, like a week and a half ago, two weeks ago now.

Adal

Oh, we did a fancy little photo shoot. It was amazing. We got hair and makeup done.

Erin

I had the best time, and I don't look natural on camera, so JPC for a while had to just keep making me laugh, which is a lot of pressure, and he did it! It was incredible! You just say, JPC, make me laugh, and then it works!

JPC

They were like, say something to make them laugh, and then we'll take a picture. And so I did that, and they were like, no, no, no, no, no. Just start when we say go, just laugh. And I'm like, well, why didn't you just wait until I finished the thing, the joke?

00:16:29

Erin

Well, I couldn't believe it. You're great under pressure. I was very impressed.

JPC

What was also funny is at one point we did get a note to stop talking about people who had died because it was rubbing everyone out.

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You can see it on our faces!

JPC

This is a happy photo shoot. Can you stop talking about funerals you've been doing? Please just continue talking.

Erin

We're so dysfunctional. We were talking about open caskets and they were like, can you... Maybe lighten it up.

Adal

We were granted a very cool opportunity with very professional people. I think it was, we found out it was like Chance the Rapper's photographer or something.

Erin

And then we... He was so professional.

Adal

And we were absolute morons, but they were very nice, and hopefully it turns out okay.

JPC

You guys are professional, but I saw a lot of fucking tattoos on that set, so I'm not really sure how professional it was.

Erin

I'm only bringing this up because I kind of want to apologize for it. My Uber came, and Adal, you were in the back bathroom, and I simply didn't wait because I thought I would get too sad saying goodbye to you. So I peaced out. I was like, buy GPC. And then I ran.

Adal

We were down in the lobby and I go, Erin, I can give you a ride home if you want. And you go, I just called an Uber. And then you go, unless you want me to cancel it. And I was like, well, whatever you want. And you're like, do you want me to cancel it?

00:17:42

Erin

And then I ran away from you.

JPC

I'm trying to save you money girl. Nobody wants to give anyone a ride. Let's just be clear about that. I've never wanted to give someone a ride.

Adal

I do it because I have to. Speaking of giving someone a ride, JPC also has some very big news, which is this past week, JPC, myself, and one Casey Tony went and saw the premiere of Fast and the Furious 9, F9, In 4DX, which if you've never seen a movie in 4DX, I can only describe it as watching a movie while sitting atop the most startled horse. They spray you in the face with rain, you're moving constantly. JPC, what is your review of F9?

JPC

I don't know. I couldn't tell you what happened in that movie, but here's what I will say. I will never not see another movie in 4DX. 4DX is my future. It is my past. It is my everything. It is all-consuming. It is the only way to experience a movie. It is the worst possible way to experience a movie, and therefore it is the greatest.

Adal

I want to watch like a documentary like in 4DX or just like a rom-com or something.

Erin

A live birth.

00:18:43

Adal

It is so the way it's like we have to constantly be doing something otherwise people get bored and it's like we won't get bored there's a movie playing but they start the movie and immediately these giant floodlights flash and our seats rock and immediately JBC as loud as he can just goes Nope. We can lose that one.

JPC

No, I said we could lose that one when they shined lights directly at our eyes. I was like, I don't know who that's for. That's for no one. The blinking flashing lights at our eyes is for no one. Here's what I'll say about 4DX. My review of 4DX is this. They have this interesting technology where they spray like scent at you. So it's like, you know, you're experiencing on this old factory level as well. But the scents didn't really correspond with what I was like experiencing in the theater. I thought that there would be more like, in my mind, when I was like, oh, 40X, there's gonna be like burning tires and like engine, like that kind of scent, but they didn't use it very well. It just kind of like was scent. It wasn't like specific to the movie. I think that's a missed opportunity. I would love to see 40X get a little better at that.

00:19:46

Adal

GBC, you know why you smell burning tires? Because that old factory burned down years ago. That's why they call it an old factory since.

Erin

You guys saw a movie without me?

Adal

Wait, Erin, you were gone. You were on the road. Also, you have a no Vin Diesel Claus. There's a show, I think it's a Disney word.

JPC

Hey, did somebody say Vin Diesel Claus? Oh, oh, oh. Who wouldn't?

Adal

Ho, ho, ho. Who wouldn't drive for fam? Family. Vin Diesel, we've discovered. JPC and I and Casey talked it over. Vin Diesel is a sentient Olive Garden. He really is.

???

He really is.

Erin

Wait, you guys made jokes about me? I hate this.

Adal

No, no, no. We made jokes about you.

Erin

No, I don't like it. I'm moving back.

Adal

There's a show in Disney World called Mickey's Philharmonic. Hey Riddle.

00:20:59

JPC

But just the shit that he does, you just have to remember, that's a 50-year-old man doing that. Like, that guy who's like falling out of a helicopter through helicopter blades, like landing on concrete, 50-year-old man. I'm 32 and it hurts to wake up.

Erin

Yeah! What are you going to be at 50? I've been thinking that. I have the pain of a 60-year-old. So I go like, what am I going to be? I'm going to be in a lot of pain at 50 or 60. Oh man.

Adal

Every time I see Vin Diesel doing a stunt, I just imagine Wilford Brimley doing it. Because I'm like, Wilford Brimley was 50 when he did cocoon and worked ancient. We, Erin, I know you've been traveling. I know you've been gone. We haven't seen you in a week or more.

Erin

I'm ready to do riddles.

Adal

Is that what you're about to say? Yeah, we're still a riddle podcast, unfortunately. So I do have some warm-up riddles. We'll maybe get into our main course riddles in the second half, unless we get through these pretty quickly. So here are some. These are called Odd Man Out. So I'm going to give you a few words or a few items in a list. And you have to tell me which one doesn't fit with the others and why it does not fit.

00:22:03

JPC

Is this an honor of Erin being the odd woman out now that she's out in LA?

Erin

Uh-huh, exactly. Wait, you guys saw a movie without me?

Adal

Okay, so the first ones are Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Buchanan, and Carter. Which is the odd one out and why? Carter. Okay, Carter why? Pussy. Carter is seriously a pussy.

???

Would anybody like to have a peanut? Wham! Get Carter!

Erin

Let's fucking get him. Kill him, JPC.

JPC

One term ass motherfucker. Get bit.

Erin

Because he's from the 20th century.

Adal

I want to see a scene. I'll be playing a new president-elect, and this will be a fictitious president in the 1800s. Erin and JPC, you are just hardcore hecklers at the inaugural inauguration. Gotcha.

00:23:13

???

Thank you, citizens of the United States. I stand upon this podium.

Erin

Why aren't you wearing a coat?

???

Because it's... January! Okay, okay. And that's what I want. I want people to tell me their opinions and I will listen to each and every one of the citizens. Hey man, are you standing at that podium or kneeling?

JPC

You're super tall. Thank you. I don't like tall people.

???

I should have led with that. Well, let me take off my shoes and be like the Pope and be humble and connected to the earth with my bare feet.

Erin

There, I'm like... Put your shoes on! You're gonna get sick!

???

Okay, mixed messages. Let me put my shoe on. I'll put one shoe on, one shoe off. This is a fun parlor game. Now, the year is 1814 and of course we have many troubles in America. But I am here to tell you, I will trap all the... Not me! Huh? I'm good, dude!

Adal

Oh, you have no qualms, no issues, nothing you'd like me to fight for you for? I own four horses and a seal.

00:24:21

???

Uh, okay.

Erin

My biggest issue right now is you're not wearing a coat and you're only wearing one shoe. You're gonna get a coat, you're gonna get sick, and penicillin doesn't exist yet.

???

What's penicillin?

Erin

Exactly!

???

Well, we need advances in medicine because we all know that there are plagues sweeping across the world and we need to protect ourselves.

Erin

Now, I... Achoo!

???

Bless you.

Erin

And travel to you, so careful.

JPC

What's your position on Bofa?

???

Bofa. Let me check my notes here. Bofa. British organization for animals. Bofa is good! Now all animals must be protected, especially horses and seals. This guy knows what I'm talking about. We need to conserve animals and put them in zoos in fake habitats to where they feel like they're in nature, but we control what they eat and do at all times.

JPC

Bofa, these nuts! Excuse me? You were supposed to say, what's Bofa?

00:25:25

Erin

What's Bofa?

JPC

Both of these nuts. Well, my notes said that it's the British organization for animals. Yeah, that's also very important. I actually liked your answers on that, especially owning four horses and a seal. What's the seal's name?

Erin

I saw a photograph and I screamed for six days. Can you make sure nothing like that ever happens again?

Adal

Well, it's new technology, and of course we have cinemas where trains look like they're coming right at us.

Erin

No!

Adal

But they're not.

JPC

They've not hit my horses.

Erin

Or is Seal.

JPC

No, Seal doesn't come to the movie.

Erin

Oh.

JPC

And what's the Seal's name?

Erin

Bofa.

Adal

Bofa. Bofa what?

Erin

What's Bofa?

Adal

My Seal. Least not seen.

Erin

Yeah, he got a cold and that president was only president for 12 hours.

Adal

Yeah. Was that William Henry Harrison or someone? Benjamin. Benjamin Harrison. That's from pneumonia?

JPC

Yeah.

Adal

Because he talked too long in the cold. You old sack of shit.

00:26:25

JPC

He was only in the office for 34 days. Then he died in the cold and went off to his grave. He's the only president from Indiana. We're a bunch of hick moron losers. And that's the Indiana national anthem? That's our state song.

Erin

Is Mariah going to walk down the aisle to that?

JPC

Yeah. She'll actually run the other way down the aisle to that. Open the door and I'll be there, married.

Adal

Isn't the Indiana State bird a dead bird? Why a dead bird? So Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Buchanan, and Carter. There's five names here, which is the odd one out, and why?

Erin

Did we have the right answer?

Adal

What was the guess again?

Erin

Carter.

Adal

Carter. And why?

Erin

No, but tell me if it's right and then I'll tell you what.

Adal

You are wrong.

Erin

Okay, then it's wrong.

JPC

Okay.

Erin

Buchanan.

JPC

Yeah, so you have Jefferson?

Adal

Yes. Madison. Madison. Oh, I'm sorry. These are the most popular babies.

00:27:26

Erin

Madison.

Adal

Madison. 2021. Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Buchanan, and Carter.

JPC

Oh, Jefferson.

Adal

That is correct. Can you tell me why?

JPC

Everybody else has a J name and he's got a T first name.

Adal

That is correct. Jefferson is an odd man out. Jefferson's first name was Thomas. All the other presidents were named James.

Erin

I would like to see a scene.

JPC

Oh yeah, I guess they're all named James. Jimmy Carter is James Carter.

Erin

Yeah. I'd like to see a scene. You too, Adal, you are a dad who was president. This is like a George Bush senior, junior situation. You're trying to convince your son, JPC, to become president and follow in your footsteps.

???

Okay son, I know that you have your own ideas of what you want to do, but the reason I got you into Harvard and the reason I got you into the Skull and Bones Club Secret Society was so that you could one day fulfill your legacy, which is to ascend to the highest position in the United States.

00:28:33

JPC

I don't want to disappoint you, and frankly, I love jerking off into that coffin with those other guys. Pretty fun, huh? It was super fun. But that's what was, I was in it for that. Dad, I mean, that's my life. Like, when I was jerking off into that coffin surrounded by other, like, naked men or whatever the school of bone stuff does. You probably felt like a sperm count. What I felt like was a star. Oh. Dad, I have something to tell you. Yes? I have been doing porn. Oh, at this Golden Bones exclusively? No, I've been branching off. I've been making my own porn. It's actually super empowering. I really, really love it. Now, I would, I know that you keep the family's legacy and you're very high regard. So I have not been using my name. I've been using an assumed name.

???

Smart, smart. What is your, what is your stage name for porn?

JPC

Tony Jackhammer.

???

Okay.

JPC

Which I get it. I get it. That is, you're still last name, President Jack Hammer. I get it. But, Tony is not my name. My name's Anthony, so I don't think anyone would ever put two and two together.

00:29:36

Adal

Son, I'm mostly disappointed that Jack Hammer was right there, and you decided to shoehorn in one extra name.

???

Oh man, Jack Hammer.

Erin

Hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi. Hot mics. Your mics are hot. You're a hot mic. Oh! Huge fan of your work, by the way. Huge fan of your work.

???

Oh, which one of us? The president or the porn star?

Erin

Tony. I wasn't a huge fan of your policies. You're kind of a bummer. Mission accomplished! No, no, no.

JPC

But you are a fan of my policies, right? Yeah.

Erin

Everybody comes. I get it. I get it. Very cool. I love it. Very good.

Adal

My banner said mission accomplished, and I know you were in a film called Missionary Accomplished.

Erin

Hey, so your mic is still hot.

Adal

Oh, is it going to burn me? No. I'm old. I don't know.

JPC

I love that Well, we're members of Skull and Bones, but he calls us Skull and Bones Club. So there's three things. There's the Skull and Bones Society, there's the Skull and Bones Club, and then there's the Skull and Crossbones Club.

00:30:53

Erin

I'm sure there's more than three things.

Adal

At Princeton has the cross skulls and bones.

Erin

All I know is my uncle, and this is true, my uncle, when he was at Yale, said no. Is that a Yale? I think it might be a Yale Secret Society. The Skull and Bones one? My uncle went there and he said no to them and then they like harassed him. He was captain of the football team there and then they were really mean to him when he said no.

Adal

And your uncle was Paul Walker? Erin's in a well. Speaking of wells, well we should probably go to commercial and hear about all the dog medication that you should be buying and we'll be right back with more riddles.

???

Hey, JPC and Erin, it's me, Stampy the Stamp, and I have news for you. Mail call.

Erin

Hi, Stampy.

Adal

Hi, Stampy. It's good to see you again. You know, this summer is showing welcoming signs of a more normal life ahead. Stampy can finally hang with his family. Finally, you can get back to enjoying life's little pleasures, like smiling at your neighbor, seeing a movie, and Going to the post office? Okay, some parts of normal life aren't so great. But with Stamps.com, you can skip trips to the post office and save on postage. Wow Stampy, that's great! Can we get you some water? No, if I get water on me, I become sticky and I don't want to do that. No, we don't want you sticky.

00:32:21

JPC

We don't want you sticky, Stampy.

Adal

Now Stamps.com brings the same US Postal and UPS shipping services right to your computer. They make it easy for small businesses to mail and ship without needing to take a trip to the post office. Print official US postage and shipping labels 24-7 without having to leave your desk or buy any fancy equipment. All you need is a computer, and a standard printer, and me, your best friend Stampy!

Erin

And Stampy, isn't it true that once your mail is ready, you just need to schedule a pickup or a drop-off? It's that simple! Mm-hmm. And Stampy, isn't it true that Stamps.com saves nearly one million small business owners like you time and money?

JPC

That's right, Erin! Thank you! Wait a second, Stampy. You said that all we needed was a computer, a standard printer, and you. But I just went on stamp.com. I signed up Hey Riddle Riddle. We always have to send in a lot of mail for Hey Riddle Riddle. I used my printer. I don't need you.

Adal

Okay, everyone calm down.

JPC

I don't need Stampy. Stampy's a lie. You don't need Stampy to use the service.

00:33:26

Erin

Okay Stampy. Stop wasting time. Go into the post office and go to stamps.com instead. There's no risk. And with my promo code Riddle, R-I-D-D-L-E, you get a special offer that includes a four-week trial plus free postage And a digital scale. No long-term commitments or contracts. Just go to Stamps.com, click on the microphone at the top of the homepage, and type in Riddle. R-I-D-D-L-E. That's Stamps.com promo code R-I-D-D-L-E Riddle.

JPC

And Stampy, you get out of here, and we never want to see you again!

Erin

Bye, Stampy! Bye! Goodbye, Stampy!

JPC

I'm disappearing. You're ceasing to believe! Stamps.com, never go to the post office again!

???

And we're back. We're here with JPC, Erin, Lou the Dog, Spaghetti the Dog, and Adal Rifai. This is part two. It's This American Life, Hey Riddle Riddle.

00:34:31

JPC

You know what? I got it now. It sounds like a mouse doing an impression of Ira Glass. And for the mouse, it's like 10 out of 10. The mouse has it. But for Adal?

???

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Adal

You see what I'm saying? I love my supportive friends.

Erin

Let's do a few more... Hey, I didn't even acknowledge that you spoke. Oh, thank you.

Adal

You're right. That's the best supporter... You're welcome. That's the best supporter a friend can give. Let's do a few more Oddman out and then we'll get into some full course riddles. Love it. The next one we have is Hey, H-A-Y. Hey. Okay. Jackpot, Star, and Brakes. Hey, Jackpot, Star, and Brakes. Who do we think is the odd man out? And Erin, you're just in Vegas, so jackpot should be a very familiar term to you right now. Because that's when they say when you hit a number in roulette, they say jackpot. So these are all famous Ringos.

JPC

Ringo jackpot, Ringo hey. Hey Ringo. No, hey jackpot star and brakes. And famously, hey Jude is for horses. This is tough. Most of these are things that you'd find inside a box of Lucky Charms. Oh, my lucky hay, my lucky breaks.

00:35:53

Erin

Is it a word that you add to them?

Adal

Erin, you are correct. Well, it's a...ish. There's a word that goes along with all of them, and it's like an action. It's an action that's one word that happens to all of them, except for one. And you, one of them is... shooting... shooting jackpot. One of them is jackpot, right? Hey... jackpot... star and brakes. So these are all things you... blank. And it's one word except for hit. Hit the hay. Hit the jackpot. You don't hit the star and you hit the brakes.

Erin

Well you do. The first thing I did when I moved to Los Angeles is I got a bat and I went to Bruce Willis' star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and I beat the shit out of it.

Adal

So he just hangs out at his Hollywood star.

Erin

Yeah, and I went, hey Bruce, look at this! And then I went, my star's gonna replace that Bruce Willis. I'm gonna remake the kid in whatever the fuck else you were in. Die hard or whatever.

00:37:02

Adal

I want to see a scene, but JPC had something he wanted to say.

JPC

Oh no, I was just going to say if you had to destroy one star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, and it can't be freaking Donald Trump that's been done, I think they removed it because it kept being defaced. Anyway, you have to destroy one star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Which star are you fucking taking out?

Adal

Adam West because he had his time.

JPC

Move over, Adam West. It's some other Batman's turn. Give Robert Pattinson a start.

Adal

Give Kanye West a chance. Erin, what do you think?

Erin

I mean, anyone who's kind of a shitty person, I would remove it.

JPC

Yeah, but you only get one and there's so many of them in Hollywood.

Erin

I know. I really do think it would be funny to do it to Bruce Willis's start.

Adal

So I want to see a scene. Okay, nobody cares. Oh, JPC, who would you want to? Hey, JPC.

Erin

No, wait. No, you'll never know.

Adal

I was waiting. I was waiting.

Erin

JPC, I was waiting.

Adal

It was Casey Affleck.

Erin

Oh, yeah.

Adal

Oh, hell yeah. It was Casey.

Erin

Get out of here, Casey.

Adal

You're lame. So I want to see a scene. The two of you are at a bar. I'll let you decide who's who. But one of you is a star celebrity, and the other one is hitting on this star or celebrity.

00:38:13

JPC

Got it.

Erin

Hey, I'm actually just here with my friends, so I was wondering if you wanted to.

Adal

I'm so sorry I don't want to sign any autographs I'm out to dinner and I'm not a celebrity so no one asked me but you are okay we're gonna do one more of these odd man outs I actually think that that would be a really strong power move if you saw a huge celebrity like Brad Pitt out and you would just just walk up to him and be like

JPC

Hey, I'm so sorry. I'm not doing autographs tonight, so... You're so nice. I love you.

Erin

I just... It's just not... I love my fans, but I'm just not interested.

JPC

I'm here with my friends. I'm just trying to have a good chill night. Thank you.

Adal

I think it's funny to try and act like they're someone who's like two levels of stardom below them. So you see Brad Pitt and you're like, oh, skeet all rich. Scream! You're great.

00:39:21

JPC

And you see how they react.

Adal

That would be amazing.

JPC

Thanks for watching! Aren't you that fuckable guy from Thelma and Louise? There's a movie where he has, like, only one line in it. It's that Christian Slater movie that Quentin Tarantino wrote. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Adal

That is called... It's got Gary Oldman in it. It's called Rosemary's Baby.

JPC

It's called True Romance. True Romance, True Romance. I would love to walk up to Brad Pitt and be like, oh my God, you're in True Romance. Yeah, I had one fucking line in that movie when I was 24.

Adal

Okay, so here's the last Oddman out. Now, the list consists of... Oklahoma with an exclamation point. South Pacific. The Sound of Music and West Side Story. Erin, this is a softball over the plate.

JPC

Erin, this has got to be like a Rodgers and Hammerstein thing. Ding, ding. But three of them are written by the same people, right? You're correct. But I couldn't tell you any more information than that.

00:40:34

Adal

I know the type of riddle this is.

Erin

Can you name the four again?

Adal

Yep, the four are Oklahoma exclamation point, South Pacific, period. The sound of music, question mark. West Side Story. West Side Story, no.

Erin

West Side Story.

Adal

Yes! West Side Story is the odd man out. It was created by Leonard Burstein. Stephen Sondheim. Arthur Lawrence and Stephen Sondheim. All the rest are musicals by Rogers and Jack Hammerstein.

Erin

Those are pretty good. I was just talking about South Pacific the other day. I'm gonna tell you a quick little story. Please. So I was in that musical the summer between my 5th and 6th grade or no 6th and 7th grade in this summer kids theater program called Kids Cabaret. in Massachusetts. And you have to be between 8 and 16 to be in the show. And one of my best friends, Connor, was 11 or 12 at the time, 12, and he got the lead, which was unheard of. Wow, a 12-year-old? He got the male lead in South Pacific, which is a 50-year-old man who sings basically opera. He does the... So he's a 12-year-old boy singing that. With a 16-year-old girl playing the romantic lead, he had to have his first kiss on stage. It was one of the hardest I've ever... I saw him right before I left and I was like, that was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. Is a 12-year-old boy being like, I'm very old. He's supposed to be like 15 years older than her in the show and he's a child. Playing opposite a teenage girl. And it's a three hour long musical. And I gotta tell you guys, so in it, I played a sailor. A male sailor. There was a while I was playing like, I was in the male ensemble for many of my summers there. I was a pirate in pirate spin sands. I was the male sailor and I got to be in the song, There's Nothing Like a Dame. Classic musical theater song. A bunch of sailors talking about how horny they are. I, a 12 year old girl, had the horniest line as my solo. It was my first solo on stage in a musical, in a full musical, in my lyric that I sang as a 12 year old girl.

00:42:51

JPC

Can I guess?

Erin

Yes, go ahead.

JPC

It's so horny. And I'd like to suck a booby.

Adal

You're close. I don't want to guess. Was that from Aladdin? Aladdin, yeah. I think yours would be, so this is, you said this was kind of gross or kind of dirty?

Erin

Yeah, just like a 1940s sailor.

Adal

So I'm gonna pick it back off JPC and I'm gonna say, I need six boobs. That's too expensive.

Erin

Pretty good, yes. My line was, we've got every kind of feeling but the feeling of relief. And I said that in front of my town.

Adal

That sounds like an Excedrin commercial.

Erin

And then after I said it got knocked to the ground for comedic defect, and it was my fucking nightmare. Because I was like, I got to commit hard because I am an actress, but also I am trying to get kissed. I want people to have a crush on me. I'm dressed like a male sailor and everyone else looks cute and I'm saying we've got every kind of feeling but the feeling of relief. I was 12!

00:43:55

Adal

I was 12! Erin, and famously I don't know if this is news to our listeners but famously you've never been kissed and you actually went back to that high school, your high school, and you pretend to be a teenager and you made out with the baseball coach?

Erin

That was a movie starring Drew Barrymore and John C. Riley.

JPC

I will also say Indiana and Indiana, especially when I went to school, we did not have a summer musical camp for kids, but what we did have was a really, really, really good bully relocation program. So you would just put your name into a big hat in between the ages of 12 and 16. They would find a local bully for you, and then that bully would just make your life hell for the foreseeable future. So we kind of skipped ahead. We were a little bit more advanced, and it sounds like the Massachusetts. So we went directly to the source.

Adal

I love that. That makes sense. And I want to see a scene. The two of you are in a, we'll say, like grade school production of a show. OK. You're both very young, but the content of the show is very much adult themed, and you're two young actors struggling to make it through this show that you have no business doing.

00:45:02

JPC

OK.

Erin

I guess I just feel like when you're the phantom of the opera that you're a lot like it just doesn't feel motivated by anything when you sing to me and I'm not trying to give you a note or anything but like you get it right?

JPC

I think it would be helpful could we just we just won the scene from the top okay okay okay I got a letter in the mail today, Diane. The doctor said you had an abortion.

Erin

You opened my mail?

Adal

Oh shit, I was just walking by, but these kids are doing Phantom of the Opera.

Erin

You opened my mail?

JPC

It was out on the count of Diane. Okay, it's not like I went through it looking to find this fucking information.

Erin

I made a choice for a family.

JPC

We don't have a family thanks to you.

Erin

This is a joke.

00:46:02

JPC

Now, I'm gonna go to the opera, I'm gonna get good at twerk, and I'm gonna start a fire. Don't follow me.

Adal

I wonder if they're gonna sing any of the songs.

Erin

Wishing you were somehow here again. I'm thinking I will somehow heal. I don't know the words. I don't think they can tell that I don't know the words.

???

Here I am, at the opera. It is late, and I'm drunk. My wife Diane, she between me, and so I will end it all.

JPC

I don't think our teacher knows what Phantom of the Opera is.

Adal

Let's get into some full riddles. Here we go. Kevin was sitting alone at a table in his favorite diner. All of a sudden he yelled, Frankfurter! He was served a hamburger. Kevin was pleased.

00:47:18

JPC

Oh man, this is sad. He's alone in his favorite diner, which means he probably eats here alone a lot.

Erin

Can you read it again?

Adal

Yep, Kevin was sitting alone at a table in his favorite diner. All of a sudden he yelled, Frankfurter! He was served a hamburger. Kevin was pleased.

JPC

You shouldn't be yelling at a waitstaff in a diner. I mean, I don't care if it is your favorite, if you're a local. Like, you can say please, you can wait for them to ask you if you'd like something. You don't need to be yelling at them. They're making like, what, like $2 a fucking hour plus tips. And Kevin, by the way, doesn't sound like the type of guy who tips.

Adal

Yeah, you can also just say, can I get the check? You don't have to skyride it with a pan in the air. Just say I want the check.

JPC

You don't need to do that little thing with your finger where you dip down and then flick back up. We get what a check is, but just ask me like a human being. You don't need to point to your necklace.

Erin

Wow, you guys, a bunch of waiters just came running to your house. You summoned them.

JPC

Oh, fuck. You just brought me a bunch of checks. I can't pay this. I'm ruined.

Erin

Frankfurter is the name of the waiter. Frankfurter is the name of his friend. He just walked in.

00:48:23

Adal

I don't know what the heir and Ellie is doing to you, but you nailed it.

Erin

Making me sweat.

Adal

Frankfurter was the waiter's last name. Kevin ordered a hamburger and that was what he was served. He always called Tom Frankfurter the waiter by his last name when he ate at that diner.

JPC

Can you imagine? I got something to say. Who the fuck knows a waiter's last name?

Erin

Maybe the waiter itself? The waiter's family? The waiter itself?

JPC

Does the waiter know the waiter's last name?

Adal

Sounds like a Samuel Beckett play. I feel like the waiter had like Tom on his name tag and Kevin was probably like, hey Tom, fucking Tom Frankfurter come over here. Like he probably assigned it and the waiter was too polite to correct him.

JPC

I will say I was a pre-pandemic. No, this is kind of sad.

Adal

I was a regular.

JPC

Thank you so much. I was a regular at a restaurant for six years. I would go every Sunday. And I'd miss some, but for six years, I knew everybody's name who worked at that restaurant. This was Big Chicks? I didn't know it. Walt, this was Tweet.

00:49:23

Erin

I knew it was Tweet. You told me that. I used to live right by Tweet. I love Tweet.

JPC

Love it. Fucking fantastic place. Still open. I just stopped eating indoors, obviously. But I didn't know a single person's last name. I knew everyone's name. I didn't know a single person's last name.

Adal

Where everybody knows your first name, sometimes you want to go. That's the song, right? What do you do?

JPC

From what? I mean, do you just ask people for their last name? Like, if you're at a restaurant the waiter's like, hey, I'm Devin. You're like, Devin, what's your last name?

Erin

You'd be like, get away from me.

JPC

I'm not giving you that information.

Erin

I'd like to see a scene. Adal, you are at a small town diner, and you think you are an absolute delightful, charming regular who has a great rapport with the staff. And JBC, you're just trying to get through your shift, and you think that this is kind of bullshit.

Adal

Sure. Wow. So great to be back at Tootie Poots. Saddle up to my favorite stool here at the counter. Ding ding. Service please. Hey. Hey, so good to see you again. Oh my gosh. It is you. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin.

00:50:40

JPC

Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin. Gremlin.

Adal

Well, one, unless you count the marshmallows and chocolate I'm going to put on your head, you cracker. What? Gram, like Gram with the cracker.

JPC

We're running on a little bit of a wait, but yeah, I guess if you want to sit at the bar, you want to sit at the bar?

Adal

Shit, I guess I sat on this guy's lap. Sorry, I'm just, this is just my stool. No, it's fine by me. So a sperm count.

JPC

Why don't you grab this stool over here? We're free here.

Adal

Okay. Graham and Ma'am, I'll take the yuge. I'll take the yuge with a side of the more yuge.

JPC

Okay, yeah. I'm like a month and a half in, so I don't know what the yuge is. Do you want a menu or can you just tell me what you'd like?

Adal

The usual. I want pancakes stuffed inside of waffles. Uh, okay, I mean... You call them pawfuls, remember? Or someone calls them pawfuls. What's the name of this place? Is this Tootie Poots?

00:51:46

JPC

Is this Tootie Poots? This is Tootie Poots. Uh, normally when someone wants the usual out of place, it's not like an off-menu order. That's confusing for the waitstaff.

Adal

I guess I'm driving through this town and I've never been here before. Um... Yeah. Oh, I know what's going on. I once ate a Tootsie Pop.

JPC

Okay, I'm glad you know what's going on. I can check with the chef to see if we can do a pancake stuff.

Erin

Hey buddy. Hey, I was here yesterday and I forgot my sunglasses, but it's so good to see you again.

JPC

Oh, okay. Do you want me to look for your sunglasses?

Erin

Honestly, I came back in because I thought you and I had the best time talking. I was here for like three hours. I thought maybe... Yeah, yeah. Oh, give me your last name.

JPC

Nope. I do remember you. We do have your sunglasses. We just put them in the lost and found them. I can get those for you.

Erin

Can I also get a bunch of mashed up waffles to go?

00:52:52

JPC

Excuse me everyone in the restaurant. Excuse me everyone in the restaurant. This is Graham. I have an announcement to make.

Erin

This is one of the vampires.

JPC

Hey everybody. Look, I know that I am an above average looking person in a town that is a very, it's a very pass-through town, right? You're a Bismarck 9. Thank you, ma'am. I get that I'm gathering a lot of attention from people in the restaurant, but I just want to make a general announcement that I'm at work, okay? We are not friends. We're just in a work relationship, and it's never gonna be more, because I have my collies, and that's enough for me. I'm not really looking for anything romantic right now. Did he say his colleagues or his collies? My collies. I have my two collies. I still couldn't catch it.

Erin

He loves us! We did it everybody!

00:53:54

JPC

This got away from you, Graham.

Adal

Sometimes you wanna go to Tootie Poots, Tootie Poots, Tootie Poots.

JPC

You dumb cracker motherfucker.

Adal

Oh, delightful.

JPC

Well, let's do another riddle here. If my last name was cracker, I would name my child Graham. How do you not? There's only one first name for that.

Erin

I think Graham is a really great name too.

JPC

I'm really losing. I knew a guy in high school whose last name was Graham and I can't think of like Graham is one of those names that is a last name to me.

Erin

Okay well then I can't change your mind and I'm not going to. That's an uphill battle I cannot win.

Adal

Here's another riddle. Kevin the college student was relieved when he received a letter telling him that his college loan was forgiven by the bank. Two months later, Kevin was in big trouble for not paying the money owed. What's going on? Marvin Gaye, what's going on?

00:54:54

Erin

They emotionally forgave him.

Adal

They should do that. Hey, this is Visa. Just calling to let you know that we emotionally forgive you for your balance.

Erin

You still owe it, but... But we actually decided to let it go over here. It was kind of weighing on us. We were super stressed out about your debt. But you know what? We are just trying to, like, go with some of the stuff we can't control.

JPC

Because your negativity is not Visa's negativity. Just so we just need you to understand that.

Adal

Hi, this is Tom with Visa. Are you mad at us? Did we do something? Because you're not paying your balance. Are you upset?

Erin

Hey, just checking in. I'm trying to not be such a people pleaser, but gosh, it really... It's starting to feel personal!

JPC

Hey, this is Jeff from Visa Calling. Okay, so it's a minimum payment, but you can pay more than that. I don't know if you're doing this to hurt me or to get at me and get back at me.

Erin

Yeah, me again, sorry. Have I called too much? I feel like I've called too much. Let me know if I called too much. Okay, call me back. Bye.

00:55:56

Adal

Hey, this is Tom of Visa. I swung by and rang the doorbell. Nobody answered, but I felt like I heard someone. I heard a creak at the door, so if you're there, open the door. Okay, bye-bye.

JPC

Hey, me again. Your credit score is always changing so you can keep checking it if you want to. It's like it's a free resource for you and you're not getting it.

Erin

Me again. I decided to get drunk and go out with my friends. I actually don't even need whatever this is. So have fun, pay off like medical debt or fucking whatever. I don't even care.

Adal

Hey, it's Tom again. We've got to notice that you're trying to consolidate your debt that you also have with Chase. I don't know if, I don't know who Chase is, I don't want to know, but just let me know if this is real, because if so it hurts and call me back. Hey me again, who the fuck is MasterCard? Seen. Let me read it one more time. Kevin, the college student, was relieved when he received a letter telling him that his college loan was forgiven by the bank. Two months later, Kevin was in big trouble for not paying the money owed.

00:57:02

JPC

Is this different money owed? Did the letter say like, your debt is forgiven by the bank because we, this other company, have bought your debt from the bank? Which is something that happens. And then they send them a letter being like, you still owe us the money motherfucker. It just changed things.

Erin

He transferred schools. He didn't pay the interest. He didn't pay... I'm running away.

Adal

I'm running away.

Erin

I'm sorry all you have is that Kindle there can't be more than 10 books on there you'll get bored yeah I put my Kindle on a stick I threw it over my shoulder and I'm gonna hop from train to train from train concert to train concert exactly okay

Adal

So what do we think? Those are all great guesses. They're not correct. Okay. So Kevin went to college, we assume Temple, always. Always. Was relieved when he received a letter telling him his college loan was forgiven by the bank. Two months later, Kevin was in big trouble for not paying the money owed. So this is the same college, the same debt, so good guesses, but everything he said was not the correct answer in this instance.

00:58:07

JPC

So is it that he got his loan forgiven and then took out another loan to go like do more college and that loan was what he didn't pay back?

Adal

No but JBC you've just given me a really good idea which is if you have college debt Go to the nearest church, go to confessional, hold up your college debt, and the priest has to forgive them, right? Your college debt may have to do some... Yeah, if you're Catholic, yeah. Some rosemary's, sometimes some sage.

JPC

Now we are all born with original debt, so if you weren't baptized, you still have the debt that Jesus died for on the cross.

Erin

That's what I did. My debt did three Hail Mary's, and nothing happened, and I'm in crushing medical and school loan debt.

JPC

I think that, and I don't want to be too crass here because it's been a while since Catholic school, so if I'm getting this wrong, please correct me gently, correct me if I'm overstepping for Catholicism, but I believe that Jesus's dying words on the cross was, I'm forgiving $40,000 a student debt if you make over $250,000 a year. And have a Pell Grant from the federal government and plan to open a business in the minority community in the next three months.

00:59:10

Adal

Wow, I want to see a scene. You two are Adam and Eve, you're in the Garden of Eden, and you're going over your monthly bills.

JPC

Okay. Okay. And so that is heating because it's pretty much just the air, so that's free. So we've got that covered.

Erin

Okay. It seems like there's a lot of money on apples this last month.

JPC

Oh my God. Yeah. I'm looking at the grocery bill. It's like all apples. Who's eating all these apples?

Erin

I don't know. What?

JPC

Wait, you're not eating these apples?

Erin

No, I'm not eating these apples.

JPC

I'm not eating these apples.

Erin

Fuck. Is it our tenant? It's snake. Hey Snake. Snake, can you get in here? Snake, can you come out of your room?

???

Yes, what's going on?

Erin

We're going over our bills, and it seems like we've been over our budget on apples. Also, we don't wear clothes. We nakey, so I don't know who is spending this much money at Nordstrom Rack on our card.

JPC

What is a banana hammock? There's so many of these on the list. What is that?

01:00:15

???

Well, sometimes my whole body is a penis, so I need to sleep comfortably, so I buy the hammock for my body. And also, I'm not spending money on apples. I'm spending money on 8 gigabytes of Apple storage.

JPC

Oh my god, that's why these are so fucking expensive.

Erin

Yeah. Snake, we love that you're staying with us. It's really fun and not weird at all.

JPC

Until you get back on your one piece. Hey honey, don't. I'm sorry, but yeah. Excuse me? It's been four months, Eve. Okay.

???

Excuse me?

Erin

Um, Snake, we've been meaning to talk to you about this. We think that maybe it's time for you to move out. We need to start populating the earth, so we'd like some privacy. Also, we nakey, so it's embarrassing.

???

Ooh, about that. Why don't you take a bite of an apple?

JPC

Hey Snake, why don't you go back to lizard and just apologize, okay?

???

She threw me out.

JPC

Well, did she throw you out because you were buying a bunch of Apple computers and not apologizing? And maybe if you would try to fix the situation, maybe that would work.

01:01:20

???

Well, it's not that I bought the computers, it's that I hid them in my she shed.

Erin

Okay, we tried to be a friend, but now that you're with us, we were like trying, we like are starting to understand why she kicked you out in the first place. You're pretty inconsiderate.

JPC

You're cold-blooded. You don't care about other people.

???

Oh, this is a lot to swallow and I'm a snake, so that's a lot.

JPC

Well, unhinge your jaw and listen to what we have to say because we don't think you're a bad person, Snake. We just think you're on a bad path and we think it's time that you mess up and learn.

???

Can I just say I'm feeling so much shame right now? So much shame.

Adal

So much shame that I want you two to put these on here. Put these on. I bought these for you. These are from J. Crew.

Erin

I'm with Stupid.

???

Yes, now that's linen. That was $84. Um... You... $84 for a banana hammock? Yes, and the arrow points upwards to God.

Adal

So God is stupid. I'm with stupid, right? Because he created you. Now Eve, I don't mean to burst your bubble, but you technically are the first barbecue, right? What? Does that make sense? Well, I don't know if God told you.

01:02:24

Erin

You're from his... Oh, you believe the rib joke? God got drunk once and he, I was like, God, please, like, please tell me how you like made me. And he was like, you're from his rib. And we all laughed so hard because that would be insane.

Adal

Oh, is that where the term ribbing someone comes from? Exactly!

JPC

It was like a ribbed for her pleasure thing.

Erin

I hope nobody takes that out of context later and decides that women are less.

Adal

I have a whole line of clothing that just says women is barbecue.

Erin

Okay. Snake, get out.

JPC

Get out, Snake.

Adal

We're already out the horse. And by the way, you're heating the whole neighborhood. That's why you're heating so expensive. Mother of God! Scene. Let's solve this Riddle and then we'll be done. Snake, am I heating all of the outdoors? So Kevin, a college student, was relieved when he received a letter telling him his college loan was forgiven by the bank. Two months later, Kevin was in big trouble for not paying the money owed. So what's going on is Kevin is basically a dum-dum. He received something in the mail. He misunderstood it. And that's what's going on. So what do we think the misunderstanding was?

01:03:33

JPC

So this is just a, this is just, he received a letter in the mail that says loans were forgiven, but that wasn't actually the case. That's what we're dealing with now. There's a lie in the riddle.

Adal

Well it wasn't a lie, it was just a misunderstanding. And my hint for you is- Have you read it wrong? He maybe didn't read it wrong, but he intuited it wrong. What's he interpreting? Well, the exact wording is the answer. Oh, but his loans had been forgiven? I was just asking for you to repeat. It's a play on words. Yes. He received a letter telling him that his college loan was forgiven by the bank. So that's not exactly what it said, but it said something where he interpreted it to mean that. My hint for you in terms of that phrase is Europe.

JPC

Europe. The band Europe. The band Europe is the hint. Yep. So was this just something that he read in the heat of the moment? I thought I'd get a little more for a Europe reference. No, that's Asia shit. What's another continent? Yeah, it's bound to happen.

01:04:35

Erin

Have you guys listened to South America? What did it say?

Adal

The letter sent from the bank had said, this is your last notice. Kevin thought he no longer had to pay because no notices would be coming. So it turns out, Kevin dumb.

JPC

Got it. Okay, I understand. That riddle sucks, but I do give it. Well, speaking of getting it, JPC, do you have anything that you would like to plug? JPC's got it, and if you want to get it, you can go over to twitch.tv slash sharkbark. I'm going to watch me play video games I'm streaming most every day of the week. Also, go and listen to the Billbuds pop cast. You can find that anywhere pop casts are found. Just Google the words Billbuds, and we review pop music. Erin, anything that you would like to plug?

Erin

Yes, I would like to plug my Instagram, Erin Keif10, and here's the deal. So in the last week I started going back and responding to some of the Instagram messages that I've been getting. And I do this thing where I write a draft of each one of my notes because I have anxiety and that's what you have to do. And my Instagram deleted like over 50 messages that I've received and I had written the responses to them. So if you have sent me a message in the last like two or three months and I didn't respond to you, please resend it. I probably have a response already typed out. I would like to get it to you. So please resend your message if I haven't responded. Thank you.

01:06:00

JPC

And if you are still online, For the 2020 elections, stay in line. Your vote will still count. Adal, anything to plug?

Adal

Yes, I want to plug one of our good friends and maybe the tallest comedian I know, Ross Kimball, has a new podcast called Good at Parties. I was recently on an episode talking about Sleep No More One of my favorite things, one of my favorite theatrical experiences. So please listen to my episode of Good at Parties. You can find it wherever you find podcasts where Ross and I talk about sleep no more and it's a delight. Also you can join me if you want to be closer to Adal, if you want to be some like share something in common and become closer friends. You can join me in being a patron of Billbuds and you get a ton of good bonus content.

JPC

Well, I wouldn't say a ton. You get maybe one episode every two weeks, but it's only a dollar. Wait, what?

Adal

Hold on. What? I've been listening to the same episodes over and over. Erin, now that you are in LA and you're talking about destroying stars with bats, you also were talking about maybe blowing up a planet. Now, Planet Hollywood is bankrupt, so you can't blow up them. Is there another planet you'd ever want to hit up or blow up?

01:07:17

Erin

I've been looking into it and I think it's gotta be a Jupiter.

Adal

Bye forever. I'm sorry, let me take that again. Okay. Bye. Forever.

???

This is Ira Glass.

Erin

Are you an alien? Saying bye forever. Ira Glass.

???

This is a little mouse pretending to be Ira Glass. Saying bye forever.

Erin

This is a little alien pretending to be a little mouse. Pretending to be Ira Glass.

JPC

Alright hold on guys, I have to take Ira Glass to my leader.

???

Starting Erin Keif and John Patrick Coan. Casey Toney could be editing.

JPC

Hey there taxes and breaks. If you like that, you are going to love this week's Patreon. It's our latest entry to our Better Know Estate series with Delaware. You can listen to that plus our entire back catalog at patreon.com slash Hey Riddle Riddle by joining the Clue Crew for $5 a month or the Review Crew for $8 a month. See you then.